Lockbar near 100% lock up when waved

omenwolf

omenwolf

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So I got a CQC15 about a week ago and I have been carrying it everyday since. I am loving this blade, I had to do a little adjustment out of the box to get it to center but to me that was no big deal. I just took it apart and move the secondary torsion bar in a little and centering and smoothness were perfect after that. My question is when I wave it out of my pocket and get the crack the lockbar goes in really deep almost 100% deep, and the lock bar gets almost stuck. Should this worry me? Maybe send it back? I really really hate sending gear back. Or should I just not wave it out of my pocket so hard? Either thumbed out or waved out lock up is very tight.
Here is a pick of where the lock bar is with a hard wave.

and here it is when thumb disked out with no wrist flick.
 
Gap looks noticeably larger on the non-lock side of the pivot. I'd disassemble and carefully reassemble.
 
EmersonRep should be PMed for his take, but I will assume he will be off line until the Blade Show ends. Just a guess.
 
You put a heck of a lot more stress when you wave it. My Mini-Commander has similar lockup when I wave it hard. I'm willing to bet it's plenty safe and will continue to function properly. Hell, Ernie himself has stated that his knife has super late lockup and he still carries it with confidence. Sending it back is entirely up to you, brother.
 
Thank you guys for your replys, they set my mind at ease a little. I would still love to hear from the Emerson rep but I'll probably have to wait till after blade for him to chime in.
 
when waving the knife it doesn't have to be super hard so you know. On the other hand if there is no blade play you are good to go. The other thing you could do id try to rotate the stop pin to see if it changes the lock % but honestly you are fine
 
Everyone's responses are right on par. I wouldn't worry and again you don't have to wave with excessive force. Enjoy it but if you feel uneasy, send it in.
 
Yeah waving with excess force will do that. It takes some messing around to learn how to wave an Emerson so it doesn't get that late of lock up. My 2005 13 locks up right in the middle, waved and with the thumb disk.
 
If the pivot is too tight then people pull very hard to compensate. Pivot should be as loose as possible but with no blade play ;-)
 
Just recently on mine, it was locking up a little later than I liked, so I took it apart and there was junk caked on the non lock side washer, not the normal black stuff from the washers, I'm not sure what it is. But not sure if that affected it but it does lock up a lot earlier now. Also I've noticed if it has side to side play, the lockup can be spotty. Doesn't affect how solid the lock is, but for us who can be a little obsessive with where it's at it can be kind of annoying. Anyways, hope that helps.
-Carter
 
I had to do a little adjustment out of the box to get it to center but to me that was no big deal. I just took it apart and move the secondary torsion bar in a little and centering and smoothness were perfect after that.

Most manufacturers advise against bending the lockbar, be it framelock or linerlock...

Try cleaning it and applying some pencil graphite to the blade's lockface.
 
IH-Antonio said:
I had to do a little adjustment out of the box to get it to center but to me that was no big deal. I just took it apart and move the secondary torsion bar in a little and centering and smoothness were perfect after that.

Most manufacturers advise against bending the lockbar, be it framelock or linerlock...

Try cleaning it and applying some pencil graphite to the blade's lockface.
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I believe he's referring to the second detent on the non-lock side. Pressure from this detent offsets the pressure from the lock when closed and combined with pivot tension centers the blade.

One thing I appreciate about Emersons more than anything else is their simplicity.

You're quite right about bending the lockbar though.
 
straitr said:
I believe he's referring to the second detent on the non-lock side. Pressure from this detent offsets the pressure from the lock when closed and combined with pivot tension centers the blade.

You're quite right about bending the lockbar though.
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I was talking about the secondary detent bar, I never messed with the lock bar at all other than to clean it. It was pushed way to far into the blade side. So far that nomatter how tight or loose the pivot screw was the blade would touch the lock side when closed.
 
Like someone told you if the knife is not right in your mind, send it in to be looked at, the fix is free, and you may sleep better at night.
 
I always thought frequent waving would accelerate wear on the titanium liner lock. My understanding is that titanium
is softer than steel and some manufacturers carbidize the lock face to extend wear.
 
245Trioxin said:
I always thought frequent waving would accelerate wear on the titanium liner lock. My understanding is that titanium
is softer than steel and some manufacturers carbidize the lock face to extend wear.
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You're right. You're right. And you're right.

The good news is, Emerson will replace a wore out lockbar liner for free.
 
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