Loneliness and fear of being alone in the bush

You get used to it. I have done the AT twice, have been on trips that have lasted 4-8 weeks during all four seasons. It takes you a while to adjust. Almost everyone I knew that did long hard solo's are also very gregarious around other people. I have found that as I have gotten older, I have backed way off on the extremes of my youth. My focus has turned outward towards my family and children. In a way this has been a harder adjustment for me because I feel the responsibilty and hazards are greater and less controlled then long solos in the wilderness. Money, insurance, employment etc. Those are things you never have to worry about with 60lb's of gear on your back in the middle of nowhere. Also your decisions now impact many others and their health and welfare.

When you get comfortable with yourself for long periods, then survival situations don't feel panicked. I have become borderline hypothermic, spraine ankles wrists, got traveller's trots, lost or destroyed gear etc. You just start calculating time, distance, calories. Can you make it to your destination or not?, if not where is the closest out? ...etc. It just becomes a continuous stream of thought on what is the most efficient next step.
 
Hi Runningboar,

I am glad you made it out safely. I also never go into the woods without the essentials, and have even been laughed at because of it. But I don't care because I will have what I need in case the unexpected happens. I think the worse thing is knowing how worried my wife and kids would be. I enjoy solo hikes but must admit I usually don't go as far as if I'm with someone. I think the main thing is to keep a clear head and know your limitations. Also, there is nothing in the woods at night that isn't there during the day (although some nocternal animals are more active at night of course). Oh well, be safe on your hikes everyone.
 
Hi Runningboar,

I am glad you made it out safely. I also never go into the woods without the essentials, and have even been laughed at because of it. But I don't care because I will have what I need in case the unexpected happens. I think the worse thing is knowing how worried my wife and kids would be. I enjoy solo hikes but must admit I usually don't go as far as if I'm with someone. I think the main thing is to keep a clear head and know your limitations. Also, there is nothing in the woods at night that isn't there during the day (although some nocternal animals are more active at night of course). Oh well, be safe on your hikes everyone.

Spring of '91, my unit was acting as part of the OPFOR during an exercise at the Northern Warfare Training Center, Fort Greeley, Alaska. My platoon was tasked to work in small teams to harass the division level force and simulate partisan activities. My team and I decided to mess with a water resupply truck. We waited at a very tight switchback and I jumped onto the back of the truck while it was going slowly and filled a five gallon container for the team, dropped it to my buddies and then...the plan was to open the "big valve" all the way and the truck would drain while enroute to the "enemy encampment" but the truck hit paved road while I was still clinging to the back of it and I rode it for about eight miles until it slowed just outside the enemy HQ.

The "guerilla" units, to distinguish them from the "good guys", wore their MOPP jackets inside out, showing the black side. As I was trying to make my way back, I got yelled at by this Sergeant Major to get back into uniform and quit fartin' around. I switched the jacket back right side out and just walked away from the HQ.

I made my way back to the rally point before dawn and realized that I was the only one of my team with a map and I didn't have a radio. I was totally on my own. I had my M-203, blanks, some 40mm parachute flares, map and compass, one MRE, two canteens of water, a poncho, an Opinel folder and a Gerber Australian Bowie, a lighter and a couple packs of cigarettes, and an itty bitty psk that I carried everywhere. I also had MILES gear but didn't have my Kevlar helmet because I'd handed it to one of the other guys before jumping on the back of the "water buffalo".

I decided to set up camp at the rally point. I was there for three days. During that time I set up a poncho shelter, got a good fire going, killed a porcupine with a blank round and a rifle cleaning rod, cleaned it cooked it and ate it, found a good water source and whittled some odds and ends around camp. I didn't get lonely because I kept busy and because I kept myself in good spirits thinking about my team-mates.

The evening of the third day. I heard a "firefight" less than a quarter mile away and decided to see if I couldn't hook up with somebody else from my platoon. I ran most of the way because I was worried that the action would be over before I got there and everybody would have moved on.

I came up behind the action, an L-ambush at a dog leg in the road and found that the ambushers were my lost team. I plopped down next to one of them and, scaring the crap out of him, said, "hey, where's my Kevlar?"

We continued the ambush for another three minutes and then faded back into the woods.

All in all...it was a blast. Things could have gone very badly. I could have been injured or attacked by a bear. They could have gotten lost or hurt. All manner of very bad things could have happened. I didn't think about all of these bad things while I was alone.

I've got to look those guys up and take them camping.
 
What happened when you got back? You were gone from your unit for three days and nobody missed you?

If my team/platoon/company wrote me off like that, FTX or not, I think I would have somebodys ass for a paper weight. Chris
 
I've done many solo nights while I was qualifiying for a Level 2 canoe tripping for a local canoe club. They are usually short 2-3 nighters. I believe that solo trip helps because once (well more than once, but..) while I was steelheading in some rivers around L. Superior, and the wood was so dense that I lost my bearings in a few minutes. I too started panicking and bushwacked a bit.

Then I remebered that I've done the solo thing before, and it was comforting to me that worse comes to worse, I can spend a few nigts out here. So i sat down, had a smoke, and retraced the broken branches I left and found the river again.
 
What happened when you got back? You were gone from your unit for three days and nobody missed you?

If my team/platoon/company wrote me off like that, FTX or not, I think I would have somebodys ass for a paper weight. Chris

The only guys that knew that I was missing were my team and they'd been looking for me, even though they assumed I'd been "captured", when they set up the hasty ambush I heard.

Nobody in my chain knew that I was gone because we only got together for resupply every five days. It's a good thing, too. The CO probably would have busted me for not wearing my kevlar in the field.

As it was, my platoon Sergeant got word of what happened and as a reward/ punishment, sent me to audit SERE, C.
 
I have never been left totally on my own like that. Everyday we have to call in a sensitive items report. If the TOC doesn't hear from you in a day or two people will be beating the brush, and you better pray you had a damn good reason you didn't check in. Chris

EDIT: I got caught downrange on a convoy with my kevlar off by the Bn SGM, it wasn't pretty.
 
Thats quite a story Task Force, glad you made it out alive.

It really wasn't bad. Every summer, I used to spend two or three weeks by myself in the couple hundred acres of stateland near our house, hunting and fishing. My parents said I had to stop in every few days so they'd know I was alright but other than that, I was on my own. Maybe that's just the kind of person I am but I can only think of a handful of people that I'd want to be stuck in the woods with...as opposed to being alone.

Two of them are the "lost team-mates". We got together a few years ago and went to the Knob Creek shoot.
 
I have never been left totally on my own like that. Everyday we have to call in a sensitive items report. If the TOC doesn't hear from you in a day or two people will be beating the brush, and you better pray you had a damn good reason you didn't check in. Chris

EDIT: I got caught downrange on a convoy with my kevlar off by the Bn SGM, it wasn't pretty.

Yeah, the whole situation was definitely out of the military norm. Our Bn CO briefed us beforehand and encouraged us to try to bust every "rule of engagement". Apparently the whole thing was sort of a point of pride with him, proving that a determined resistance could halt a much larger force. We'd slip outside the exercise area every morning and sleep and plan and play cards all day, then slip back in at night and harass the supply lines and assault the support units, avoid the combat units. Lord, we did some terrible things, cut and rewire TA-1 lines, spray cheez wiz into the female ports on commo equipment, steal pogie bait, let air out of CUCV tires, booby trap the latrine points.

Some of the units, all you had to do was fire one parachute flare. They'd freeze like deer in the headlights then fire wildly until they were out of ammo.

Do you remember, on the MILES box, you could get the laser to fire without firing your rifle, by tapping the port with your finger? We set up on as a sort of crew served sniper rifle. One guy would tap the port and the other would aim. We'd set off one guard's MILES gear, wait until they finally got it turned off again, then set another guy's off...without firing a shot. Kept the whole unit up all night.

I know what you mean in your edit. I used to wear a Yankees cap under my Kevlar until our Regimental Smaj saw it. He was actually pretty cool for an upper echelon type...He was reaming me out and I asked him if it was because he wasn't a Yankees fan...guy laughed so hard...I mean he put me on extra duty for a couple days but it probably would've been a week if I hadn't got him to laugh. I was breaking ice off the sidewalk outside Regimental HQ and he sidles up and says, "How 'bout them Yankees?" to which I replied, in a loud and motivated voice, "I hate the ****ing Yankees, Sergeant Major." He laughed again and the next day I was transferred to the scout platoon.
 
I do a good amount of solo hiking but it really ever has bothered me.. Yes sometimes I do feel like I am the only one of there but it gives me time to actually think without the pressure of my everyday 9 to 5 life. I take my solo hikes as a time to reflect on certain things and usually I have no problem doing so..
 
Do you remember, on the MILES box, you could get the laser to fire without firing your rifle, by tapping the port with your finger?

One more post and I will quit the hijacking.:o

Yeah I know the trick with the MILES gear. At NTC a few years back we figured out how to put a jumper in the MILES to make it shoot every time we touched it. We zeroed our MILES to our AIMpoints by wearing NODs at night so we could see the laser from the MILES, then you just line up the dots with the aimpoint and the laser. We got some at least 1500 yard kills with M4s on dismounts down in the bottom of bicycle lake, one person would aim the rifle and another would tap the MILES box until you got a hit. It was pretty funny watching through binoculars and seeing someones MILES going off and their reaction from half a mile away. Chris
 
Back to the original point of the thread...
RunningBoar's example is probably more pertinent than mine. I wasn't lost and could have walked back to "civilization" at any point. I had gear. I didn't have to deal with the psychological trauma of a loved one waiting for me. I was at the rally point waiting for them.

Technically, I wasn't even lost.
 
I do most of my trips solo. I never worry about being alone because I get in sync with my surroundings and am more aware of what is happening around me. Solo trips require you to know your limits of mental and physical ability. I accept the risks of getting hurt or lost. Being alone in the woods brings you in touch with yourself and helps to wash away the monotony of work and everyday life. It is good for the soul to be a part of nature and not a cog in a machine.

As far as the main point of the thread is concerned I think loneliness can be mitigated by bringing a couple friends with you. Fire and a good knife. Spending nights alone in the woods is much more tolerable with a nice fire and some sticks to whittle on.

The only thing I miss sometimes is someone to share a beautiful sight with or an animal encounter. Words usually don't do them justice, but pictures come close.


Your avatar...Is...that...Ookla the Mok?
 
I have always went packpacking alone i guess im more of a loner type and i dont want to ask anyone how they feel about doing this or that.. So here im agreeing with Coote. When i still had my pup we would go to the high sierra and i swear i didnt say more then 2-4 words to the pup the all time. I love being alone and if i seen any people i would try and get off trail so i dont have to talk to them.... What i realy find funny is when i come back. When for the first time i need to talk to someone it feels funny to hear my own voice again.. Now that my pup has passed away i always go out there alone. People think im nuts but the way i see it is what better company can you have besides your self......... well i do wish my pup was alive We were as a single person. No talking was needed and the company was awsome,,,,,,, now i got tears in my eyes

Sasha
 
Sasha,
Get you a new puppy!!!! Life is too short not to have a best bud. Chris

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Or three.:D
 
Chris that is an awsome pic. Im not ready to have another one not yet. But looking at the pic i remember my pup and his girlfriend when i used to visit my friend. Only dogs and little kids can sleep like that *L* . I love that pic realy makes me smile now..... Like someone said way before our time.....
a DOG IS A MANS BEST FRIEND.. The funny part is no one said a woman is a mans best friend nope its a DOG..

Sasha
 
You guys got me thinking about my old GS.
I have also taken some 3 day to week long solo treks before and I have to say, having my german shepard along has it benefits. Not only did she provided company, she protected me from anything when I was asleep. She was always on guard. I know the feeling when you need to have someone to talk to, so I know this might sound crazy to some, but she always seem to listen and understand. Never at any time when growing up with her did I own her nor did she own me. It was a mutaul respect for each other, a friendship that I will never have with another dog.
Now that I sit here and type this. I feel all choked up and think of the good times we had. It was only 10 years ago when she past away in her sleep at the age of 15. But since then, I have moved on to other GS's and other breeds, but none will ever replace her. R.I.P.
 
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