Long parable (but good)

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This came by email; I thought it might resonate well. For our overseas friends, maybe it will illustrate our mindset...

The Parable of the Sheep
By Charles Riggs
Not so long ago and in a pasture too uncomfortably close to here, a flock of
sheep lived and grazed. They were protected by a dog, who answered to the master, but despite his best efforts from time to time a nearby pack of wolves would prey upon the flock.
One day a group of sheep, bolder than the rest, met to discuss their dilemma. "Our dog is good, and vigilant, but he is one and the wolves are many. The wolves he catches are not always killed, and the master judges and
releases many to prey again upon us, for no reason we can understand. What can we do? We are sheep, but we do not wish to be food, too!"
One sheep spoke up, saying "It is his teeth and claws that make the wolf so terrible to us. It is his nature to prey, and he would find any way to do it, but it is the tools he wields that make it possible. If we had such
teeth, we could fight back, and stop this savagery." The other sheep clamored in agreement, and they went together to the old bones of the dead wolves heaped in the corner of the pasture, and gathered fang and claw and made them into weapons.
That night, when the wolves came, the newly armed sheep sprang up with their weapons and struck at them, crying, "Begone! We are not food!" and drove off the wolves, who were astonished. When did sheep become so bold and so dangerous to wolves? When did sheep grow teeth? It was unthinkable!
The next day, flush with victory and waving their weapons, they approached the flock to pronounce their discovery. But as they drew nigh, the flock huddled together and cried out, "Baaaaaaaadddd! Baaaaaddd things! You have bad things! We are afraid! You are not sheep!"
The brave sheep stopped, amazed. "But we are your brethren!" they cried. "We are still sheep, but we do not wish to be food. See, our new teeth and claws protect us and have saved us from slaughter. They do not make us into wolves, they make us equal to the wolves, and safe from their viciousness!"
"Baaaaaaad!" cried the flock, "the things are bad and will pervert you, and we fear them. You cannot bring them into the flock!" So the armed sheep resolved to conceal their weapons, for although they had no desire to panic the flock, they wished to remain in the fold. But they would not return to those nights of terror, waiting for the wolves to come.
In time, the wolves attacked less often and sought easier prey, for they had no stomach for fighting sheep who possessed tooth and claw even as they did. Not knowing which sheep had fangs and which did not, they came to leave sheep out of their diet almost completely except for the occasional raid,
from which more than one wolf did not return.
Then came the day when, as the flock grazed beside the stream, one sheep's weapon slipped from the folds of her fleece, and the flock cried out in terror again, "Baaaaaad! You still possess these evil things! We must ban
you from our presence!"
And so they did. The great chief sheep and his council, encouraged by the words of their advisors, placed signs and totems at the edges of the pasture forbidding the presence of hidden weapons there. The armed sheep protested before the council, saying, "It is our pasture, too, and we have never harmed you! When can you say we have caused you hurt? It is the wolves, not we, who prey upon you. We are still sheep, but we are not food!" But the flock drowned them out with cries of "Baaaaaaddd! We will not hear your
clever words! You and your things are evil and will harm us!"
Saddened by this rejection, the armed sheep moved off and spent their days on the edges of the flock, trying from time to time to speak with their brethren to convince them of the wisdom of having such teeth, but meeting
with little success. They found it hard to talk to those who, upon hearing their words, would roll back their eyes and flee, crying "Baaaaddd! Bad things!"
That night, the wolves happened upon the sheep's totems and signs, and said, "Truly, these sheep are fools! They have told us they have no teeth! Brothers, let us feed!" And they set upon the flock, and horrible was the
carnage in the midst of the fold. The dog fought like a demon, and often seemed to be in two places at once, but even he could not halt the slaughter.
It was only when the other sheep arrived with their weapons that the wolves fled, only to remain on the edge of the pasture and wait for the next time they could prey, for if the sheep were so foolish once, they would be so
again. This they did, and do still.
In the morning, the armed sheep spoke to the flock, and said, "See? If the wolves know you have no teeth, they will fall upon you. Why be prey? To be a sheep does not mean to be food for wolves!" But the flock cried out, more feebly for their voices were fewer, though with no less terror, "Baaaaaaaad!
These things are bad! If they were banished, the wolves would not harm us! Baaaaaaad!"
So they resolved to retain their weapons, but to conceal them from the flock; to endure their fear and loathing, and even to protect their brethren if the need arose, until the day the flock learned to understand that as
long as there were wolves in the night, sheep would need teeth to repel them.
They would still be sheep, but they would not be food!
© 1997 Charles Riggs


Stephen

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Micah 6:8. Well worth the attempt!
 
Them is Kentucky Bred Fightin' Sheep, Hehehehe

Charles Riggs is 1st V.P. of the Kentucky Coalition for Concealed Carry, the group that spearheaded the CC law in Kentucky, and had the foresight to make it a Concealed Deadly Weapons law, rather than a "pistol permit" as in some states.

He is also one fine individual
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A good read indeed.
And a concealed dealy weapon law for all the states would be a good thing.
The only thing better would be being able to carry carry whatever you wanted too openly.
But that's preaching to the choir here.
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Yvsa.

"VEGETARIAN".............
Indin word for lousy hunter.
 
"a Concealed Deadly Weapons law, rather than a "pistol permit" as in some states"

Wish it was like that here in Las Sesspool, NV! I sought to obtain our CCW JUST to carry a defensive knife. But NOOOOOO. It's a gun permit only and in no way extends to any
other 'weapons'. All carried blades must be 3" or less (they don't care if you conceal it
or not though). Fine. I still DO NOT leave my
residence without my 4" tanto voyager (better
than nothing). However given the beligerent
nature of our LEO here I do not relish the
eventuality of being stopped and questioned.
I am a pedestrian and LVPD is notorious for
targeting us
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The khukuri village idiot
 
The Kentucky CCDW law is beautiful in its' simplicity as regards blades. Laws exist for legal blades, folding or fixed, setting the limit at 4", calling these "usual or normal" knives. The section concerning knives in the CCDW statute simply allows concealed carry of knives "other than usual or normal". My 25" Kobra will come under consideration this winter, when the long coats come out
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Most LEOs around here are are in favor of the law, or at worst non-committal, but I don't think the Kobra would find too much sympathy with the friendliest of them. The Malla would work, though
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[This message has been edited by Walosi (edited 06-13-2001).]
 
This is just an observation, but I think out of all the CCW laws I've read about, the one that Florida has seem to be the best one. They have allow you to carry a gun concealed and at the same time allow knives without any specific length as well as autos in some areas.

Arvind
 
Arv:

The Kentucky law was patterned after the Florida example (as were many others) but our simple "other than usual or normal" exclusion allows concealed carry of ANY blade you are capable of concealing. If you are 6' 11", wear an overcoat and want to play Highlander, bring your Katana. My Pat Crawford cane, with its' 18" surprise, is specifically outlawed under old statutes, but legal with the permit. The caution that goes with this is, if you are carrying a large blade that could be considered an "oddity", you should be very careful to keep it concealed.

Deliberate display or "flashing" a concealed weapon can bring a charge of brandishment, and loss of the permit even though there are some safeguards for accidents such as the wind blowing your coat open. Display something that attracts as much attention as, say, a Malla or 20" AK, and the fur will fly
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I should note here that the State of Nevada has now adopted a law reserving the right to the State to set firearms laws and to prohibit counties from adopting these kind of more stringent regulations. Unfortunately, Clark County is the tail that wags the dog and it's codes were grandfathered in.

Technically, an oversight in the surveys put Las Vegas in Arizona, but a correction was pushed through the legislature before the rest of the state could find out and give them back to Arizona. Steven's parable about the sheep is spot on. Los Angeles is driving folks out of Kalifornia and the quickest move is to Vegas.

Outside of Vegas and Reno attitudes are very different. Coming into Elko going east on I-80, after crossing the Humboldt River ( the states others are the Truckee; the Carson; the Walker, and I forget the fifth though maybe it's the Colorado, which borders the state rather than is inside it ) you go thru a tunnel and right after you come out is a sign "REPORT ALL SHOOTINGS FROM ROAD IMMEDIATELY". Heading west on I-80 going into Kalifornia you may remember the I-80 sniper scare. The sign outside Elko has nothing to do with that. It's got an 800 phone number ending in 3030 that reaches the offices of Operation Gamethief. In Kalifornia you raise a ruckus sniping at people. In Nevada all it takes to get about two out of three folks chasing YOU with their deer rifle from behind the truck seat ( and loaded ) is to try poaching.
 
I recently purchased a Glock 30 (.45 caliber), a beaut of a gun, and the reason I haven't bought any kukhris lately; and out of curiosity was checking out the concealed weapons permit laws in South Carolina. SC does allow CWP, but the law includes so many exceptions that the law has all but been invalidated.

For example, CWP is not legal in any state or federal building, any business that posts a "CCW Prohibited" sign, any place that sells alcohol (automatically prohibiting most restaurants), and any private residence where one doesn't inform the owner of the fact of one's CWP.

However, one can carry a pistol in the glove compartment of a vehicle with no permit required.

Interestingly enough, the above exceptions by law do not apply to magistrates, judges, and solicitors. Hmmm.
 
Wal,

What you just mentioned about the KY law, I did'nt know about that. I had read this book about CCW permits on a state by state basis and that's where I got some of this info from. On the issue of brandishment, in Florida also if someone were to brandish a large knife, the courts take a very dim view of that and would more than likely throw the book at the person doing that. Unfortunately here in Wisconsin, there is no such law and also this is the only state that does'nt have a law about self-defense. In other words, if your house were invaded and in the course of the invasion, you even wounded one or more of the attackers, you would all be thrown in jail with any benefit of the doubt. This I learned when I was in a seminar on Conflict Resolution in the Workplace. The instructor was formerly from New York and she mentioned this to us.

Arvind
 
Arvind:

If you enjoy reading CCW material, go to:

http://www.packing.org/

This site has more info on the subject than even the NRA site, and is updated daily. If you don't like the situation in Wisconsin, look up the organizations there that are trying to change it, and jump in with them. Wisconsin has a horde of sportsmen, and they should eventually be able to make a change. It's happening (slowly, for sure) next door to you. We had to start twice, but it can be done.
 
Last time I looked at Maryland's laws, they were flat out nuts. IIRC (and I think this is a direct quote) you're only legally able to carry "pen knives and Swiss Army knives" concealed.

Uncle, what do you think the kamis would do with an order for an 18" sirupati with a corkscrew and screwdriver in the handle? Would that require a wood model?
 
Here in NW Georgia I asked our county sheriff how long a knife I could wear openly. It isn't uncommon to see hunting knives. Anyhow, he told me 6' was the limit, and when I go kilted I wear one of Ryan Johnson's beauties. Anyone want to see a pic, please feel free to email me as I am not sure how to post it and wouldn't unless asked.

Stephen

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Micah 6:8. Well worth the attempt!
 
Walosi, thanks for the great link.

Arvind, Wisconsin sounds more like UK than USA in not allowing one to defend oneself in one's home.
Contrast that with the South Carolina Attorney General's recent statements regarding home invasions. I found the exact text of the press release on Walosi's site...

Charleston will not be prosecuted. This is the first time Condon has used his recently announced home invasion policy. “Law-abiding citizens will not be subject to criminal prosecution in South Carolina for defending themselves and their families,” Condon said.

“Citizens who defend their homes are not criminals. The invaders are the criminals,” Condon said. “Our new policy sends a clear message to potential criminals: you take a very grave risk in this State if you invade someone’s home. A citizen who lawfully uses deadly force to protect his or her family and home from invasion will not be prosecuted.”

Condon has backed up his statement in several cases of home invasion where the invader was killed and the home-owner was not prosecuted.

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Here is another statement Mr. Condon made when he made his original pronouncement...

“As Chief Prosecutor of South Carolina, I am today declaring open season on home invaders. That season is year-round,” Condon said. “Citizens protecting their homes who use force – even deadly force – will be fully safeguarded under the law of this State and subject to no arrest, charge or prosecution. In South Carolina, would-be intruders should now hear this: invade a home and invite a bullet.”

Makes you want to stand up and cheer.
 
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