Long range rifle

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Brad Greulich

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Hi,
Lately I'v been thinking of putting together a long range rifle (100-200 yard range).
I want something that I can really customize, mag options, stock options (styles and colours) probably will put a bi-pod on it ect.

This rifle will be a bit of a project, and take a while im sure- playing with different ideas and getting add-on's that I like. Right now where im stuck is a good starting point. I was thinking about the Remington 700 .308 cal.
Is this a good gun to really make my own? Will I have lots of customization options?

Any advice or opinions would be a great help!
Thanks alot.
 
The Remington 700 will be hard to beat for your application. 100-200 yards is not really long range. With that rifle and the appropriate mods you could be very accurate at much closer to 1000 yds. Good luck, have fun, and let us know what you settle on. And post pics of the finished product if you would. Check out the OP in this thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=724399
 
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Thanks for the link dttomcat, that's the kinda thing I want. lol my range is only 300 yards and I can see worth a damn, but it's good to know I can get that kind of performance out of the 700.
 
brad i am not being a smart ass at all but no bs i run my ruger 10-22 thats done up out to 250 yards. for what your looking for and talking about just buy a very nice ar15 or go for a 6.8 , 6.5 grendel or even a 308, look for decent set ups with bull barrel's or match barrels and a nice trigger. you can pretty much do anything you want to a ar to make it fit you and you can do it in stages just like your talking about. they will shoot sub moa out to 500 if you do your part.

i love my bolt actions but really if your only shooting out to 300 yards or less a ar platform would suit your needs much better and probably be alot more fun


just saw your in canada and not sure what you can and can't own their
 
thanks for the advice grunt. I'd LOVE to do up an AR but there's alot of BS (including needing a special license- same one needed for hand guns) if I got said license I'd be collecting handguns instead lol.

Thanks for the advice tho!
 
you might look into the savage/stevens family of bolt actions as well - great actions to build on and can be found for half the price of the 700.
 
Puttin a .22 round into a small group at 100 yards is equal to puttin a 308 into a small group at 500. Less walkin (and cheaper to practice) too.

Optics can equalize.

Food for thought.
 
yeah after i posted i saw you were in canada. basically pick any bolt action rifle and put some decent optics on it and practice the fundamentals of marksmanship and you will be able to punch very small holes in paper all the way out to 300 yards no problem.

again you can drop big money on some seriously custom stuff aics stocks, mcmillan stocks, different base's and rings, optics you can spend more than you spent on the rifle. but its definitely not necessary for the ranges your going to be shooting. and look into different calibers 243, 270, 308, ect just depending on what ammo is available around you and for a better price. or go the really cheap route and buy a nice 22 lr and get lots of ammo and practice with it and go from there
 
200 yards isnt really "long range", to me thats more like 300+, and with a good rifle in a decent calibre with decent optics 300 isnt really hard.

a good bolt rifle is a remington 700 in .30-'06 or .243 or .308, i would go with the '06 but if ya are recoil sensitive try a .243 or .308, unless ya just like magnums (and spending the $$ for ammo, its expensive) imho its hard to beat a .30-'06 or a .270 for hunting in the lower 48 and recoil isnt bad & ammo is less expensive, also either one will go 450 or 500 yards if you do your part.

i like my 7MM rem mag, but i dont know if it will really do much an '06 wont do to be honest, i dont think folks give the old '06 enough credit, its a darned good calibre imho.
 
SIFU1A said:
i dont think folks give the old '06 enough credit, its a darned good calibre imho.
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My centerfire hunting rifle is a Rem 700 CDL in '06 with a Ziess Conquest 3-9x40 scope. With regard to price, availability, and variety, it's hard to beat '06. Other's may have a different opinion. I am, by no means, an expert. But I did do my research before I bought. Some guys like short action stuff.
 
I've got a Rem 700BDL with a heavy barrel in .300 Win Mag. If you want to really do some true long-range shooting (400+ yards), that's the way to go. It's a really sweet rifle.
 
Punching paper only? Probable target make a difference in selecting the right TOOL.

Savage makes some very good.. and accurate rifles. You might consider a .223 bolt rifle as ammunition in that caliber is readily available. Savage now has the AccuStock AND the AccuTrigger and while I don't own an AccuStock yet, AccuTrigger is great, IMHO.

Would not overlook the used market in a .223 bolt..it is not a barrel burner.

I'm old so good optics are important to me. I only shoot handguns and shotguns w/out scopes.

If you are planning to eventually hunt big game you might consider a .308 bolt rifle. Wide variety of readily available ammunition in a known accurate caliber.

If you have a local shooting club, suggest a visit...look and listen and inquire. Most shooters are willing to share information and many I shoot with would offer to let a responsible guest try their rifle. Now if someone offers to let you try their .50 BMG rifle with a muzzle brake that looks like it belongs on a battle tank, decline with thanks, LOL.

Good luck with your project.
 
Thanks again everyone, I think .308 might be a little big if I do alot of shooting (im a small guy) and around here .270 rounds cost an arm and a leg. So im thinking .223. I want a round with some jam behind it, but I can still shoot a couple of times in a row.
Will a .223 still have some force behind it and be accurate at 300 yards?
 
I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for saying this, but in my opinion, the .223 is not a very accurate round at those sort of ranges. A lot of that has to do with the light weight of the bullet. It is undeniably very pleasant to shoot, though.
 
Samael said:
I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for saying this, but in my opinion, the .223 is not a very accurate round at those sort of ranges. A lot of that has to do with the light weight of the bullet. It is undeniably very pleasant to shoot, though.
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I was wondering if the light bullet would start to wander that far out.
I'm gonna have to look in to more calibers, I dont know a ton about this sorta rifle so as I look at list's of calibers I'm never sure if it's a normal easy to find round, or something obscure and expencive.:p

Oh well, I guess thats why im doing my homework. Back to the drawing board.
Edited to add: What about a 243 WIN? is this a common caliber at all? would it suit my needs?
 
Since you seem to be concerned about recoil, I should add that going for a heavier rifle will cut the felt recoil dramatically. If you're not going to be lugging the gun around in the field all day, you don't really need one o the light-weight, six-pound rifles. Go with something a little heavier, maybe even with a bull barrel, and you'll be able to shoot the heavier calibers all day without killing your shoulder.
 
i can't agree with what the above poster stated. a 223 is fine out to 300 yards and further. in the army we regularly shot and qualified out to 300 yards no problem and that was with a m4 get a bolt action 223 and you would have no problems. we also use to go to the kd ranges that ran all the way out to 6 hundred yards and with just a acog had no problems hitting out there either. i don't know if i can post a site but i leave you a visitor msg. a 223 would be perfectly fine for you. there is a couple folks on youtube who shooting out to 600 just run the heavier bullets 75 or 79's
 
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So you're saying that if I get a heavier bullet a .223 will still give me some range?
Thats good food for thought.
 
Within the parameters you specified (100-200 yards), .223 is just fine. Wind won't be a big factor at that distance. You'll find .223 ammo deals easier than most other rifle calibers.

Stretch your legs past 300, and you'll have to learn how to read wind.

.243 is not big on recoil in a medium weight rifle. Larger bullets will do better in wind at longer ranges than .223. Ammo is more expensive though.

You don't mention any use on game, so the full spectrum of calibers is open to you.

Generally speaking, in the same weight rifle, more MV = more recoil, bigger boolit = more recoil, more MV and bigger boolit = MORE RECOIL.

Just as there is no one knife for all purposes, there is no one rifle. You trade recoil for performance.
 
Get a Savage. Mine is sub-MOA accurate from the box even with cheap factory ammo, and the Accutrigger is superb. They make heavy barreled varmint models in .223 that might be right up your alley.
 
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