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Long Term Field Sharpenability vs Edge Holding

Discussion in 'Outdoor Gear, Survival Equipment & More' started by jmarston, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. gdpolk

    gdpolk KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    391
    Sep 19, 2011
    While I understand the argument, I can't say that I agree for my uses. I prefer a steel that can be sharpened and taken into the field and keep an edge for a long, hard day of use if not a weekend of camping/hunting. I find all of the tiny, convenient to pack/carry sharpening tools to be a compromise and a pain to use. I have less time to spend in the woods than I do at home. So, I prefer to sharpen at home, enter the field prepared, and not have to bother with keeping an edge while I can be soaking in the goodness of the great outdoors. That doesn't mean your wrong and I'm right, or vise a versa; it's just a different approach.
     
  2. wildmike

    wildmike

    Nov 17, 2007
    I learned to freehand sharpen when I was very young. So I'm of a bent toward field sharpenability.
    However I make great use of the newer sharpening hardware. Such as the Eze-Lap DC4 etc.
    I much prefer plain old 1095 steel, or other carbon steels over all of the super steels out there. I like M4, it takes an excellent edge. And 80crv2 has become a real favorite.
    i carry a strop and touch up regularly in use. So I rarely need to do any heavy sharpening.
     
  3. Pomsbz

    Pomsbz

    Jul 31, 2015
    Can anyone give me a clue as to which google search will bring these up?
     
  4. inkynate

    inkynate Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 4, 2010
    "Thin Diamond Plate Knife Sharpening Stone" should work.
     
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  5. Pomsbz

    Pomsbz

    Jul 31, 2015
    Thanks!
     
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  6. Anrkst6973

    Anrkst6973

    509
    May 15, 2008
    After years of using stuff like A2 and Infini, I find I get more enjoyment out of simple stuff, 1070 (Tram) 1075 (Condor) and .1095 (Esee or Mora). I use simple devices to maintain the edge and I don't find a few minutes bringing it back to be a detriment to my time outdoors. Just my own personal.02
     
  7. Pointshoot777

    Pointshoot777 Gold Member Gold Member

    731
    Feb 16, 2001
    It all depends on the situation in which a knife will be used IMO. When used outdoors, up in the mountains, I prefer simple steels. I like something I can sharpen on a smooth rock, if necessary. In an outdoor survival course I took that was taught be a retired USAF survival instructor, -it was pointed out that life & death situations usually come up unexpectedly. Yes, maybe you only anticipated going on a day hike. And just maybe something happens that forces you out there much longer than you expected.
    I want to reduce the number of items where I’m screwed if they are lost. Item 1 is a knife. Losing a knife when in an outdoors survival situation is very bad. Depending on the circumstances, you may very well be screwed. Needing to sharpen a high tech steel knife and losing your diamond sharpener means now you may have also lost the ability to use your knife.
    You may reply - ‘ I just won’t lose those items.’ Well, in survival situations “sh*t happens”. You may be tired, hungry, cold, disoriented, panicked, etc. You may fall, need to cross a river, etc, etc. Any number of circumstances may unfold where you can lose gear. I find many of the new super steels to be amazing, but when it comes to outdoors knives I prefer simple & easy to sharpen. If anything, throwing a spare Mora in your pack is cheap insurance.
     
  8. bobe01

    bobe01 Basic Member Basic Member

    36
    Oct 27, 2012
    When I started "collecting" knives I was much impressed by high end super steels and most new knives I was buying were in M390, s90v etc.

    Over the time I was spending more time in the nature: hiking, camping, cycling, and knives were becoming more intesively used tool.
    After harder use I had to spend 30min-1 hr on resharpening one of my supersteel knives, and eventualy came to conclusion it's not worth the hassle.
    Now I mostly carry high quality 12c27 knives which I can easy touch up with a DC4 stone, in-field if needed, and to be honest, when properly sharp I just can not see any disadvantages compared to supersteel knives. These mid-range steel can take some abuse if needed, and needs practicaly no care apart from maintaining the edge which takes 1 or two minutes.

    I have to mention that I always carry portable folding saw, and a small axe or a matchete when I plan to chop or cut the wood. Right tool for the task is what I beleive into.

    I still am kind of a steel snob and own few nice supersteel knives, but use them only for EDC which means they almost never get used apart from testing the sharpness on a piece of paper:D

    PS, my oldest hobby is salt water fishing and I prefer 12c27 thin blades for most of the time, and VG10 (Fallkniven F2) for harder use (dealing with bigger fish, bones, etc).

    PS2: Sorry for my English:D
     

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