Looking at Kali and Have a Few Question

Yes he was, it was the BBC series 'Way of the Warrior' about 1982 something like that. That was a great series its a shame that the BBC for some reason won't release it. It was the documentary on Doce Pares Eskrima that influenced by desire to travel to the Philippines in the first place. Now I live here and train daily at the Headquarters.... life is strange.

Anyhow, Grandmaster Cacoy is now 87 years old and still trains and spars three times a week, and is still unbeatable, amazing man. He chuckles as he locks, traps and hits you and reminds you that he has been training for 80 years (he started when he was 7). The amazing thing is, when you think about it, thats two regular life times of training for most people.

So, I feel very privilaged to be able to train with him on a regular basis.
 
Yes he was, it was the 1982 BBC TV series 'Way of the Warrior' its a shame that the BBC won't release it on DVD. Anyhow, it was the documentary on Doce Pares Eskrima and Grandmaster Cacoy Canete that influenced my desire to travel to the Philippines. Now that I live here, I get the opportunity to train with him on a regular basis. He is now 87 years old and still trains and sparrs three times each week. A remarkable man and a remarkable martial artist.
 
stickmaster2000 said:
Yes he was, it was the 1982 BBC TV series 'Way of the Warrior' its a shame that the BBC won't release it on DVD. Anyhow, it was the documentary on Doce Pares Eskrima and Grandmaster Cacoy Canete that influenced my desire to travel to the Philippines. Now that I live here, I get the opportunity to train with him on a regular basis. He is now 87 years old and still trains and sparrs three times each week. A remarkable man and a remarkable martial artist.
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I had the pleasure of meeting him a few years ago. A remarkable guy. I'd read on a couple of the other FMA forums that he was in the hospital recently but has recovered.

Re. the BBC "Way of the Warrior" series it was indeed a remarkable collection. In addition to the Doce Pares information it contained a segment featuring one of my teacher's teachers: Hong Yi Xiang.

Best,

Steve Lamade
 
Was that the Chinese guy doing the internal Kung-Fu Hsing-I and other arts? That was a great episode as well (infact, they all were). Yes Cacoy was ill over the Christmas period but now he is fine and seems even stronger than before. You still can't touch the guy, and I havent met anyone yet who came even close.. Yes a remarkable man.
 
stickmaster2000 said:
Was that the Chinese guy doing the internal Kung-Fu Hsing-I and other arts? That was a great episode as well (infact, they all were). Yes Cacoy was ill over the Christmas period but now he is fine and seems even stronger than before. You still can't touch the guy, and I havent met anyone yet who came even close.. Yes a remarkable man.
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Yes. The focus of the episode was on Tai Qi but he was also a well known Xing Yi teacher. Glad to hear that Cacoy is feeling better.

Best,

Steve
 
Go to You Tube and search Cacoy Doce Pares I have a recent clip on there of Grandmaster Cacoy training (taken 10 days ago).
 
Thats a really cool clip, for an old guy he is pretty good, who is he sparring with?
How many Degree belts are there in that system, I see he has a 12th degree? I thought there was only 10 stages?
 
The old guy is Grandmaster Cacoy Canete at 87 he is a remarkable man and still trains three times a week. In the Doce Pares system there are 12 degree levels. These degree levels reflect the system, 'Doce Pares' means twelve pairs. Grandmaster title is awarded at 9th Degree level and above. In fact in the records of the World Head of Family Sokeship Council, Grandmaster Cacoy is listed as a 12th Degree Supreme Grandmaster, awarded for his development of Eskrima and founding of Eskrido.

The Awards of grade have been verified and sanctioned by the United States Martial Arts Association (USMAA).

The guy he is sparing with is Master John John Mac, the Chief Instructor of the Headquaretrs School in Cebu City. Master Mac is the current World Eskrima Champion in both single and double stick combat, a title he also won 10 years ago in the United States. He is also three times Philippine Champion and the personal sparing partner of Grandmaster Cacoy.
 
That is impressive stuff, 78 and still going strong, and chucking around a World Champ to boot, really cool, do you spar with those guys?
 
Three times a week!! That's pritty much all we do, spar, no fancy drills you find out what works and what doesn't and what needs improving on. Its pritty tough going for two hours each session, and the level of ability is very high.
 
So what are the rules you guys spar under, is more sport or is combative? I mean do guys allow punches etc?
 
That depends, there are different form of sparring. The sport style of sparring is conducted under WEKAF (World Eskrima, Kali, Arnis, Federation) rules. Combatants wear protective body armour, gloves and headguard. Bouts are 3 x 1 min rounds. The second type of sparring is the technical development sparring, which is what you see being demonstrated in the following clips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19B0bXki2qE
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMifzlBYm54

This type of sparring is for close range skill development where you are lokking for open lines, recognition of position, traps, locks, disarms and the application of Eskrido techniques (throws, trips and takedowns). This type of sparring is still very competative but the players do need to have highly developed cotrol over there weapon as no protective equipment is worn.

Other types of sparring are Full Contact (such as the Dog Brothers in the USA). In this type of sparring limited protection is worn, usually just headguard, hand protectors and groin guard and various impact weapons are tested. Combatants must start with a weapon, i.e. stick (different lengths and weights are tested), Kicks, punches, knees, chokes, clinches, throws, takedowns and ground fighting are all permitted. There is no referee and bouts are fought over various time limits. Bouts are only stoped by submission, withdrawl by competitor or injury). A policy of NO SUING FOR ANY REASON is adopted by all combatants.

FMA sparing is varied and fluid in its approach, many diffent weapons are available and also empty handed skills and grappling. Practitioners can spar in any way they like provided the rules of engagement are decided before hand. For example, if you are trying to develop your skills with the single stick at close range then this is what you should work your sparring around, if you wish top develop your kicking skills then kicking is what you should work on ect ect.

An analogy I use is 'You wouldn't take a cricket bat to a tennis match and expect to get a game'.

As long as combatants set their ground rules before hand then thats fine.... get to it and have fun!!!.

Hope that goes some way to answering your question.
 
I get where you are comming from, so you beleive in a specific break down of method to develop that area, and then put it all together?

Great video by the way, is there any of you doing some stuff with your Guru?
 
Kali, arnis, and escrima are the same thing, just different dialects. Some people will try to tell you differently, but everyone I ever trained with told me they are all the same. When it comes to angles they are all very similar.
 
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