Looking for a concealed belt dagger.

[RazorMan]

You waited 5 and a half years to post this?

Just found it - so i waited only five minutes - do I now have your permission?

As far as the crazy comment; it is definitely crazy to those that either do not believe this, or are ignorant to new edged weapon designs. Stick around...you may just learn something.

 

[Kiah]

I apologize for not understanding your rules, and posting something that is considered advertising. ..

I will never again mention the name of a company or link!

You're welcome to advertise in the appropriate sections with the correct membership. If you're making these yourself (yourself implying either you personally or your company), then "Knifemaker/ect." is the one you want. If you're a dealer selling them for a company, then obviously "Dealer" is the correct option.

Here is the link to purchase the correct membership: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/payments.php

As you can see, it's not exactly expensive.

 

[RevDevil]

Awesome and crazy all in one, nice.

 

[RazorMan]

99.999% of the folks on the Blade Forum are top notch people and patriots; there are a few people that need to call other folks crazy – my parents did not raise me like that. I included some documentation and have redacted any information that could be considered advertising for the edged weapon design company.

COVERT TOOLS for FORCE PROTECTION - Part 1 - 2013

By Aaron Cunningham – Counter-Terrorism Expert

“The Art of Success” - Appear to be a cryptogram while operating in a directed way to penetrate enemy vulnerability and weaknesses.”
John Boyd “Patterns of Conflict”

This article seeks to display the contemporary innovations of Curtis W. Koehler; whose tools are in the tradition of covert weapons. He began his quest to improve survivability with edged weapons and concealment systems in 1998. This journey has led him to study metallurgy and to experiment endlessly, in a long period of trial and error, which led to a range of rapidly deployable and highly concealed knives and swords from behind the worn belt.

He has received considerable attention and inside acclaim from within elite US Law Enforcement units and the military SOF community. These unique tools are filling an important niche and are carried by career practitioners here in the US and in hostile environments overseas.

The daggers and sheathing systems created and advanced by Koehler originally came at the calling of an elite narcotics unit conducting regular undercover operations. The current product was developed with specific input and guidance from that Narcotics Bureau. His concealed belt sword system has spent time in Afghanistan where it has been worn operationally by SOF members up to 18 hours a day. He has received kudos for his efforts from now retired US FBI Special Agent Robert Taubert who was instrumental in the development of HRT and acted as agency liaison for many US Special Operations units.

The knife systems advanced by Curtis meets the zero compromise criteria imposed by covert operations and meets professional standards for time critical deployment under emergency conditions. This system will reliably enable sub-second deployment of a knife under stress.

Aaron Cunningham is the acting President of the International Tactical Training Association and a lifetime practitioner and noted instructor of edged weapon tactics and training. ITTA conducts international training – counter terrorism measures.

 

[Codger_64]

I have been searching the web for a small (approx. 6.5" - 7.5") dagger to that would be sheathed sideways on the belt.

Does anyone have any links for such a knife?

Yes.

Is this about right? This is a custom crossdraw sheath holding a Sharpfinger knife. It is slim enough to not protrude greatly causing an unsightly "print", and the knife blade, if not acceptable as a single edge, can be modified into a pikal configuration.

Both items can be located with a search of the popular auction site.

 

[Codger_64]

gadunz, you are posting to a 5 year old thread, resurrected by a spammer.

Er.... roopsie. Meh tew.

 

[RazorMan]

Thanks for the kind words from Kiah, and RevDevil.

As far as the knives above; they are great...look like high quality pieces; however they do not conform to the human body. The weapon design company in question has developed a "Body Contour Weapon System". To make this very easy to visualize; we could hide a 6"-9" dagger under a womans bikini - you would not see it.

In Phase 2 of our edged weapon designs; we will have weapons that can attach to almost any part of your outer clothing and not be seen. Hidden in plain sight.

Respectfully, Curtis W. Koehler

 

[Rhesus Feces]

 

[Tripton]

Just found it - so i waited only five minutes - do I now have your permission?

As far as the crazy comment; it is definitely crazy to those that either do not believe this, or are ignorant to new edged weapon designs. Stick around...you may just learn something.

You joined in June 2008. It is 2014. You waited 5 YEARS, saving your first post to type out some useless garbage about how the current US troops and "elite law enforcement" are using bendy, floppy, belt swords that need to be deployed in both hands at a seconds notice...

Well, technically, that was your second post. Your first post was to shill these magical weapons because you just so happen to be involved in making/pushing them. It's quite silly, really.


Perhaps your products would be better suited to be discussed in W&C?

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Now hear this! This thread is in the General Knife Discussion, not Whine & Cheese. Mr. Koehler presented an answer to the original topic. You can discuss that answer or ignore it. If you continue personal attacks instead, I will remove your posts and enter my remarks on your warning / infraction record. Is this clear?

 

[RazorMan]

Please excuse my verbosity - after a few paragraphs of explanation and apology; you will hear break-through information about blade design, and engineering. I hope I am not off topic.

First I would like to apology if I offended Tripton or anyone else. All of us at xxxxxxxxxx are passionate (I may be obsessive) about innovation and new weapon designs. Speaking only for myself; I have been known to go way-overboard when it comes to talking about our weapon systems. I have the same passion talking to a 90 year old WWll veteran - that obviously has no ability or means to properly use our systems…or an engineer that hates weapons, and may not enjoy our conversation. Yet I press on; so you are not alone…my wife tells me to “knock it off” all the time. Believe me; she has more power than you do Tripton.

Please relax Tripton; you are going to have a heart attack. Not many people value innovation over the money – just us nuts. Perhaps we would be better served; if we saved our anger / antipathy for the enemies of this great Republic…not for a fellow patriot. I do respect the right for you to voice your opinion; no matter what accusations you make - even to a fellow American. In fact if it makes you feel better; I wish you all the best.

I admit, when we first began this project; it was for profit. At this point we have invested too much in our systems; it is unlikely that we will see any profit – any time soon. This is especially true since our clients are very specialized, and we continue spending our resources on R&D.

When I read the first post from Elmgorvegnome - that he could not find a 6”-9” dagger - that could not be totally concealed - I could not contain myself – again I apology. Chances are; he does not have the training to properly use our systems; thus my main objective was “let people know” about new weapon designs. Now that that is behind us; please indulge me one last time.

I am a self-taught “limited knowledge engineer”, and I am the designer of all our products. I have been given a brief gift by a power much higher than mine. You cannot understand how grateful I am!

When we first began developing swords that conform to the human torso; I hired a specialized company to temper our sword blades. (Their main office is in Germany) The President of the company loved our spirit; the US plant engineer/manager (with a master’s degree - ran the plants engineering)…he was like you Tripton…he hated me. The engineer with the master’s degree told me – “what we want to do is impossible” – “against the law of physics”. I told him that he was wrong! (Bet he hates me more than you do Tripton)

So my design company decided to cheat the laws of physics…yes cheat! The engineer said we could not make a blade as heavy as a full size katana - that it would be impossible to wrap around your waist – that the metal would be too thick - that it would permanently deform if wrapped around the waist area. Additionally the engineer said it would be too stiff / too rigid to even bend. He also thought I was crazy.

How did we cheat physics; we took a series of thin specially tempered sword blades and laminated them together. We employ a liquid grease between the blades to create the properties of Molecular Adhesion. (In simple terms surface tension) The blades do not physically touch one another – they float on each other “at the molecular level” - they are separated by a thin liquid layer of molecules. (There is a particular manifestation of intermolecular forces which causes solids or liquids to adhere to each other; usually used with reference to adhesion of two different materials, in contrast to cohesion)

So in simple terms the blades stick together based upon liquid surface tension; much like the tinted dark film applied to auto windows. When the sword bends; the individual laminated blades move independently of one another, and at different ratios - but will not separate – even when striking a target hundreds of times. I can totally conceal a heavyweight sword in a specialized steel linked containment system under my belt. I can deploy the sword faster than a concealed carry handgun, and crush concrete blocks without damaging the blade. We have many videos to prove that.

Finally, for those of you that still think I am crazy; you are 100% right…but I am “an extremely well-managed crazy”!

Very respectfully, Curtis W. Koehler

 

[Esav Benyamin]

The truth is, none of this has anything to do with the original post. Thread drift is not necessarily a problem, but in this case, I think we've had enough, especially since the original post and responses date from 2009.

We can listen to more of this if it is presented in the proper form and in the proper forum.