Looking for a dagger or stiletto.

waterbar said:
Ontario trench knife.
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That's pretty much what I had in mind.

The only thing I don't like is that the guard isn't symmetrical. Do you know of any similar knives with a symmetrical guard.

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Yeah, the Linder daggers are pretty cool looking. I just got a Western W77 recently; 4" blade full tang, nice hardwood handles. Remington also makes them, same thing. Case has a neat looking boot knife as well.
 
DShiflet said:
OP is asking for a dagger or stilleto...those are Bowie knives...nice I agree, but not what the OP asked about(also not sure if $165 meshes with his specific request that he doesn't want to spend a lot money).
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I posted the Blackjacks because they're examples of what the company can do, they make all sorts of stacked leather and wood handled traditional looking knives, including compact, sawback 'pilot' knives that seem to match what OP wants perfectly. The Original Post was pretty vague, I got the impression that he was looking for a traditional military style knife.

As far as the cost, saying "I don't want to spend a lot of money" could mean a limit of $1000 or $10 depending on who you're talking to.
 
MatthewSB said:
I posted the Blackjacks because they're examples of what the company can do, they make all sorts of stacked leather and wood handled traditional looking knives, including compact, sawback 'pilot' knives that seem to match what OP wants perfectly. The Original Post was pretty vague, I got the impression that he was looking for a traditional military style knife.
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Daggers and stilletos are specific styles of knives. The fact that he specifically said "dagger or stiletto" automatically rules out Bowie knives, sawback knives, etc, as they are no more a "dagger or stiletto" than a hatchet is a "saw".
 
sogflash said:
That's pretty much what I had in mind.

The only thing I don't like is that the guard isn't symmetrical. Do you know of any similar knives with a symmetrical guard.

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I don't know if it matters to you, but the blade isn't symmetrical either. One side has a fully ground edge, and the other has a half-edge.
 
Fairbairn said this was an important design point: "The hilt should fit easily in your hand, and the blade should not be so heavy that it tends to drag the hilt from your fingers in a loose grip." I'm interested in the Spartan and Boker daggers. Does anybody know if they meet that design point? Thank you
 
RamZar said:
Check out some of the examples, descriptions and specifications on the A.G. Russell Knives website: http://www.agrussell.com/knives-straight-dagger/c/20622/
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RamZar, do you like the "Böker V-42 Devil's Brigade Fighter" on A.G. Russell website better than the "Boker Plus V-42 Devils Brigade Knife" on the Boker and Amazon websites. The dimensions and look (thumb area) of the 2 knives are different. Thank you very much for the suggestion. I'll buy one of them.
 
OldMarineVet said:
RamZar, do you like the "Böker V-42 Devil's Brigade Fighter" on A.G. Russell website better than the "Boker Plus V-42 Devils Brigade Knife" on the Boker and Amazon websites. The dimensions and look (thumb area) of the 2 knives are different. Thank you very much for the suggestion. I'll buy one of them.
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They are the same knife. The thumb area is only different because you're seeing the opposite side of the knife on the AG website.
 
Just got distracted from buying Boker v42 by seeing Paul Chen v42. Read several reviews. Opinions were Paul Chen is more authentic but thinner blade brought up durability issues. All I see for Chen blade is "blued steel." Authentic is important to me because I'm thinking balance is important for a dagger. Durability is important because I plan to use this dagger. Any opinions here would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
 
OldMarineVet said:
Just got distracted from buying Boker v42 by seeing Paul Chen v42. Read several reviews. Opinions were Paul Chen is more authentic but thinner blade brought up durability issues. All I see for Chen blade is "blued steel." Authentic is important to me because I'm thinking balance is important for a dagger. Durability is important because I plan to use this dagger. Any opinions here would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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OOC, you say you plan to use this dagger...may I ask for what? This design is very much intended strictly as a killing tool, not a utility knife, not an outdoors knife, not a survival knife. If you're not planning on killing something...this isn't the knife you should be looking into(and if you are planning on killing something, should we be concerned?). As far as functionality goes, either design should do just fine for it's purpose, outside their purpose...well, neither would be a good choice, better to get something else instead. The grip is a little longer(like .5 inch) on the Chen version, so if you have big hands you might prefer that one...
 
Thanks, DShiflet. I plan to use the dagger for self defense. No different than the guns I carry. I'll practice with it and hope not to have to use it.

I have medium size hands. But I'm wondering if the longer handle on Chen better supports Fairbairn's design point: "The hilt should fit easily in your hand, and the blade should not be so heavy that it tends to drag the hilt from your fingers in a loose grip." And maybe there are other unknown physical advantages gained from Chen's better authenticity to original Fairnbairn daggers. Based on that, I'd get the Chen.

But I'm concerned about Chen durability. Some thought the smaller width and thinner blade made it look more fragile. Chen blade spec only says "blued steel" so it's hard project durability. The Boker blade is SK-5 carbon which seems like good durability from other discussions. So, if the Chen is a better design with a blade that might break, I'd go with the Boker. Thanks, again
 
OldMarineVet said:
Thanks, DShiflet. I plan to use the dagger for self defense. No different than the guns I carry. I'll practice with it and hope not to have to use it.

I have medium size hands. But I'm wondering if the longer handle on Chen better supports Fairbairn's design point: "The hilt should fit easily in your hand, and the blade should not be so heavy that it tends to drag the hilt from your fingers in a loose grip." And maybe there are other unknown physical advantages gained from Chen's better authenticity to original Fairnbairn daggers. Based on that, I'd get the Chen.

But I'm concerned about Chen durability. Some thought the smaller width and thinner blade made it look more fragile. Chen blade spec only says "blued steel" so it's hard project durability. The Boker blade is SK-5 carbon which seems like good durability from other discussions. So, if the Chen is a better design with a blade that might break, I'd go with the Boker. Thanks, again
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Well, if you're using it solely for self defense, for all intents and purposes, you're NOT using it unless you're doing something you really shouldn't be doing, like deliberately trying to pick fights with people or something. As such, the durability shouldn't really matter too much, the odds of you ever actually USING it, rather than just carrying it(note your local laws there, too, many places forbid the carrying of daggers) are incredibly slim. If you were planning on using it for boar hunting or something(and that was an activity you did) where you were killing things with it with some frequency, that might matter more, but the fact of the matter is, you will most likely NEVER use the knife, so it shouldn't matter too much if the blade is a little thin.
 
DShiflet said:
Well, if you're using it solely for self defense, for all intents and purposes, you're NOT using it unless you're doing something you really shouldn't be doing, like deliberately trying to pick fights with people or something. As such, the durability shouldn't really matter too much, the odds of you ever actually USING it, rather than just carrying it(note your local laws there, too, many places forbid the carrying of daggers) are incredibly slim. If you were planning on using it for boar hunting or something(and that was an activity you did) where you were killing things with it with some frequency, that might matter more, but the fact of the matter is, you will most likely NEVER use the knife, so it shouldn't matter too much if the blade is a little thin.
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Hmm, we may have differences in philosophy here. That's good. Based on the premise above it's senseless to buy any weapon and practice with it for self defense. If anybody does, it's ok to get a bad quality product since the odds for self-defense are incredibly slim. But, I think those odds are different for different people. So, I think our disconnect is my odds for the need for self defense are more likely than yours. In any case, a beauty of knives is how multi-functional they are. One of those functions is a weapon.
 
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