Looking for a neck-carry "shiv" type implement

eyeeatingfish said:
find one of those stiff kiss knives. Small, light, thin.
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They are harder to find and I can,t find a company that will ship to Canada . Its such a long way away . L:O:L

Good call I can,t reccomend it cause I haven,t had one . Sure would like one though .
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
wrong!:rolleyes:

You have no idea what you are talking about.

You don't need a permit for anything except a pistol. The only restriction is Autos are illegal to carry, and Brass knuckles are illegal.
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How can you possibly say something so bold and unequivocal, given that we KNOW that laws vary from state to state, country to country.

In Florida, a Concealed Weapon License, which is what you get to carry a gun, is what licenses you to carry a variety of weapons, not just guns. And if you are caught with various weapons concealed on your person, you will face charges unless you have a CWL.

Why'd you jump down my throat about this, given that you are not even correct? :confused:


-Jeffrey
 
untamed said:
Amen to that! Although not along the lines of a "shiv", the SWICK is, IMHO, the best neck carry I've ever handled. Light, short, but with just the right blade length and superb Spyderco ergos to make it truly a joy to handle.
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Needs to be made in H-1, in order for me to consider it ideal. Not that I don't have one -- I do. It's just that I won't take a $70 neck knife out in the ocean (kayaking, swimming etc.) if it's not in a known-for-resisting-rust steel.

-Jeffrey
 
peacefuljeffrey said:
How can you possibly say something so bold and unequivocal, given that we KNOW that laws vary from state to state, country to country.

In Florida, a Concealed Weapon License, which is what you get to carry a gun, is what licenses you to carry a variety of weapons, not just guns. And if you are caught with various weapons concealed on your person, you will face charges unless you have a CWL.

Why'd you jump down my throat about this, given that you are not even correct? :confused:


-Jeffrey
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Because you were making incorrect statements- to myself, and to the original poster (both living in MN).

Unless you were just pontificating about unrelated stuff for no reason- you were giving patently wrong advice.

And I am correct about the laws in MN. (the only laws that could possibly have relevance in this thread)

Aside from that, it could be said you were just preaching about what you think might happen in some hypothetical court of law that exists only in your head.

The fact that you suggested he carry a cold steel plastic spike- while trying to paint the Ti spike as a horrible idea. . . not even close a credible (or rational) argument.
 
peacefuljeffrey said:
Needs to be made in H-1, in order for me to consider it ideal. Not that I don't have one -- I do. It's just that I won't take a $70 neck knife out in the ocean (kayaking, swimming etc.) if it's not in a known-for-resisting-rust steel.

-Jeffrey
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This thread isn't about you, or the state you live in, or kayaking, or the ocean.

Someone asked about a shiv or neck knife to carry in Minnesota. Last I checked, there wasn't too much saltwater here.;)

So far you have suggested only a crappy plastic spike from cold steel that you have never even used, and spent the rest of the time complaining about other people's suggestions.
 
"I would think that any neck knife is going to necessitate a concealed weapons license (CCW, CWP, whatever they call them in your neck of the woods) to be legally carried."

I guess when people say, "I would think," or "I can imagine," to you they are making strong assertions. Many others probably see that as a person making clear that he is not claiming to know for sure.

Boy you went to a lot of effort just to criticize my posts.

Who cares if I have never used the "crappy plastic Cold Steel spike." The guy asked about suggestions for a "shiv-type implement." What, it doesn't fall into that category? Like hell it doesn't. In fact, it's more of a "shiv-type implement" than the knives that were mentioned, because since the "Delta Dart" is useless for cutting, it is useful only as a shiv.

My apologies for the dearth of bold faced type in this post. :rolleyes:

-Jeffrey
 
peacefuljeffrey said:
Needs to be made in H-1, in order for me to consider it ideal. Not that I don't have one -- I do. It's just that I won't take a $70 neck knife out in the ocean (kayaking, swimming etc.) if it's not in a known-for-resisting-rust steel.

-Jeffrey
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BTTT

Uhhhhh, dude, I really have no idea what you're talking about? You must've confused my response since my suggestion wasn't specifically for you but to the original poster. :(
 
mr Peacefull, maybe you should consider the fact that not every post posted under yours is a direct result of your posts. I believe and correct me if i am wrong that the first two posts was about a simple , no frills , lightweight knife with stabbing abilities and a good sheath. The posts were advice on what other forumites consider too fall under that category. I have difficulty to understand how these posts , that have an equal value due to the fact that they are posted by forumites that are different human beeings, ends up in a flame war?

I see no reason why we should drag CCW laws, salt water corrosion , etc in this debate.
The question was plain and simple. Answer the question. If you like to debate about your point of interrest open a new thread on your topics.

No harm done, but please try to keep this an informative forum, and not a virtual yes/no debating club.
 
edit-man, that was a big pic :p

anyway, I need to keep this out of w&c territory

why do you want a better steel than what is on the spike? Not saying you shouldn't get what you want, but if you are looking for a shiv, then does it really matter how good the steel is? Yeah, 420 is crap, but are you going to be doing edc tasks with it, or is it just last ditch sd?
 
hardheart said:
why do you want a better steel than what is on the spike? Not saying you shouldn't get what you want, but if you are looking for a shiv, then does it really matter how good the steel is? Yeah, 420 is crap, but are you going to be doing edc tasks with it, or is it just last ditch sd?
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Strictly SD.

Thanks for the suggestions, and if it helps to generate more ideas, I live in TN now. And I am not really familiar with knife laws in this State either, at least not yet.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
This thread isn't about you, or the state you live in, or kayaking, or the ocean.

Someone asked about a shiv or neck knife to carry in Minnesota. Last I checked, there wasn't too much saltwater here.;)

So far you have suggested only a crappy plastic spike from cold steel that you have never even used, and spent the rest of the time complaining about other people's suggestions.
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Are you always such an ******* or have you just not been getting any lately? I believe the saltwater referance was topical because he will want something that is not going to rust due to sweat. The Cold Steel spike fits the requirements quite well. It is certainly a "shiv", won't rust, and is easily affordable. Maybe you should stick to offering beneficial advice rather than jumping on other people who try to contribute. In most places, a fixed blade does require a permit to be carried concealed. If that is not the case in MN, you can politely point that out. By the way Mr. Knowitall, he no longer lives in MN as it turns out, but rather TN, where it could indeed be illegal:

39-17-1307. Unlawful carrying or possession of a weapon.

(a) (1) A person commits an offense who carries with the intent to go armed a firearm, a knife with a blade length exceeding four inches (4"), or a club.
 
KFLEISIG said:
Are you always such an ******* or have you just not been getting any lately? I believe the saltwater referance was topical because he will want something that is not going to rust due to sweat. The Cold Steel spike fits the requirements quite well. It is certainly a "shiv", won't rust, and is easily affordable. Maybe you should stick to offering beneficial advice rather than jumping on other people who try to contribute. In most places, a fixed blade does require a permit to be carried concealed. If that is not the case in MN, you can politely point that out. By the way Mr. Knowitall, he no longer lives in MN as it turns out, but rather TN, where it could undeed be illegal:

39-17-1307. Unlawful carrying or possession of a weapon.

(a) (1) A person commits an offense who carries with the intent to go armed a firearm, a knife with a blade length exceeding four inches (4"), or a club.
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You have proven only that you are clueless(and probably failed to even read any part of the thread. Nice personal attack :jerkit:
I have offered suggestions, something you have yet to do.:rolleyes:

And you are completely wrong in your ASSumption about permits being required for fixed blades in most places.

BTW- explain to me how the Ti Spike I suggested is going to rust. :rolleyes:

Go crawl back in your hole.
 
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