thanks for all the great recommendations guys. I am going to consider them all and make my purchase, will post pictures once I've sorted it all out! Really appreciate you guys taking the time out of your day to respond to this.
willgoy: I do like the look of that bullet end jack quite a bit, it looks as though it would have a comfortable handle shape, that and the outlaw seem to be the most comfortable looking as far as shape goes.
Pinnah: I am horrible at sharpening, I have my grandfathers old pocket stone to sharpen with and a lansky system for when I'm at home, but I swear even with that lansky thing I can't get a knife sharp enough to cut butter lol. I like carbon steel for its history and the fact that it changes over time based on what you do, gives it more of a sentimental value imo.
rockgolfer: Great review of those knives they look awesome, I like the look of a stockman with a cigar shaped handle, looks a lot cleaner to me.
bwperdue: I do really like the look of the boys knife I am just uncertain if it would be a pain in the you know what to open up that main blade with the way they have the secondary blade positioned, if anyone has any feedback on that it would be appreciated.
Thalestin: always nice to know you're not the only knife nut in these parts eh
thanks again all, stay safe.