Looking for a Recomendation on Hinderer knife

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Greetings, let me start by apologizing for my "Newbie" question. I purchased a Hinderer XM-18 Fatty Edition on the secondary market. When I recieved the knife it was very difficult to open and worse yet the lockbar toof two fingers to unlock. I sent it to Hinderer for repair ( which took a bit of convincing) . Hinderer called me after receiving the knie saying they would not touch the knife because it looked like someone messed with the lockbar. Not me! They were not very nice to deal with. Anyway I am looking for someone with more experience than me to look at the knife and perhaps repair if possible. Thank you in advance!
 
Sorry to hear about your bad luck. I live close to the ranch and called them one time to see if I need service if I could just drop a knife off. The answer was "no". I didn't expect them to work on it while I waited I just didn't want it lost since many of their models are not made very often. It really makes me think twice about buying their stuff.

You probably saw this from their website:

Warranty​

All RICK HINDERER KNIVES products carry a limited warranty for the serviceable lifetime of the product. We guarantee our knives, pens and tools against manufacturing defects in materials, construction and to perform as advertised when maintained and used properly. Our Warranty does not cover normal signs of wear, rust, damage or breakage due to improper use, improper modification, or lack of maintenance. We cannot cover lost fasteners or hardware under warranty, but we do sell those parts. Any product we determine to be defective will be repaired or replaced at our discretion. To receive warranty repair or replacement, the owner must send the product to us to be evaluated. No other warranties are implied or expressed other than what is specifically stated here.
User modifications to folding knives that are not covered under warranty: Modifying or altering the detent in the blade or lockside, the lockface itself, the blade tang, thumbstud, and lockbar cutout. If modifications like these are performed on your knife they can ruin the lock up and or action of your folding knife. These modifications could render the knife unsafe.
3rd Party Anodizing: We cannot warranty a knife that has been heat anodized with a torch. HOWEVER we will not void your warranty for using DC current to electro-anodize your titanium parts.
Using Aftermarket Fasteners and Parts: You are welcome to change your knife hardware without voiding your warranty. Example: Titanium clip screws are a common upgrade, installing a set would not void your warranty. The only case that would cause a warranty issue would be using improper hardware that would cause an issue with the knife that otherwise would not be there if you had the stock Hinderer parts installed.
Bevel Re-Grinds: If you have your bevels reground by someone else we will not void your warranty unless the grind has a direct impact on the problem with your knife. For instance if you had someone grind the tang to change the lock up and a problem with the lock occurred, there would be a cost associated to fix the problem caused by someone else.
If we determine that it is something other than a defect in workmanship or materials, we will inform you if the product can be repaired and your cost. If your knife has been abused or has seen hard use for a long period of time, it is possible that the useful life of the product has been exceeded.
***A side note for those of you who can’t flip your knife open to your liking, this is not a warranty or service issue. There are plenty of threads on the subject in our online forums at bladeforums.com and usualsuspects.net as well as youtube videos that can help you. Oil, pivot adjustments, and technique is where you will find your answers….The same goes for blade centering, lots of threads and info on the forums to help you out

Services we do not offer:​

  • We will not change the original finish, so for example we won’t tumble a knife that was originally blasted
  • We do not do “custom” detent work, meaning we do not make detents lighter or stiffer, all folders are made to a certain spec, however it may not be absolutely perfect for “you”. An example would be for those of you that have trouble flipping your knife without using wrist, we do not stiffen detents. Or in the case of someone who finds the detent too stiff, we do not lighten them either.
  • We do not change or alter the lock bar engagement.
  • We do not do regrinds of any sort
  • We do not mark blade steel types after the knife has left the shop
  • We do not have a stripped screw removal service. Big boy rules apply, you strip it, you remove it.
  • We do not re-finish, or re-coat DLC Coated knives or knife parts
 
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Yup saw that too. I was just really shocked how poor their customer service was considering how much their stuff costs. My knife was a few years old but “new” in the box. I just don’t think they wanted to mess with it. On the flip side I sent a knife to Strider and they were awesome.
 
Can you take a couple of photos of the knife from different sides ? Would like to see how the lockbar touches the blade.

Thanks.
 



Trying to figure out how to post picture.

You need a picture hosting site. Like imgur, I use smugmug. Then you get a link to the jpg, and can post via IMG tags, like this:

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(no spaces)

You can also email me pictures and I can post, my email adress is …
 
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Here are your pics:

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Everything looks pretty normal. Your pics are quite small, possible that somebody messed with the lock-bar interface, but not sure at all.

I'd offer you to look at the knife, but you don't know me and vice versa, so not sure what to do. Where are you located, please ?
 
I can see the detent ball, which is good (they flatten after much use). Sometimes the lockbar gets stuck because of the LBS, or there could be something wrong with the washers. That's as far as I can do it remotely.
 
Everything looks pretty normal. Your pics are quite small, possible that somebody messed with the lock-bar interface, but not sure at all.

I'd offer you to look at the knife, but you don't know me and vice versa, so not sure what to do. Where are you located, please ?
I live in Atlanta. If you are willing to look at it I would be happy to send to you. I just don’t have enough (any) experience messing with knives. I’m retired, former military so I like to think fairly trustworthy.
 
I live in Atlanta. If you are willing to look at it I would be happy to send to you. I just don’t have enough (any) experience messing with knives. I’m retired, former military so I like to think fairly trustworthy.

I sent you another email.
 
Hard to tell anything from the pictures. In the second one it might just be a visual affect due to lighting or the angle, but it almost looks like the gap between the blade and scale by the pivot isn't consistent which could be a washer pinched or bearings not seated quite right. I've seen a couple XM-18s that were off just slightly on the reassembled that acted similar and just needed taken apart and reassembled with care.

I don't know if that is the case or if ferider ferider can fix it, but he's a good guy and I wouldn't have any reservation sending it to him to look at. I'd offer to look at it if he hadn't already. I think he has as much experience with Hinderers as I do so hopefully he can help you out.

Roland ferider ferider I can't tell what Gen of XM-18 it is, but I have lots of spare parts if you take a look at it and need any to try to get it sorted for him let me know.

Good luck with it.
 
Hard to tell anything from the pictures. In the second one it might just be a visual affect due to lighting or the angle, but it almost looks like the gap between the blade and scale by the pivot isn't consistent which could be a washer pinched or bearings not seated quite right. I've seen a couple XM-18s that were off just slightly on the reassembled that acted similar and just needed taken apart and reassembled with care.

I don't know if that is the case or if ferider ferider can fix it, but he's a good guy and I wouldn't have any reservation sending it to him to look at. I'd offer to look at it if he hadn't already. I think he has as much experience with Hinderers as I do so hopefully he can help you out.

Roland ferider ferider I can't tell what Gen of XM-18 it is, but I have lots of spare parts if you take a look at it and need any to try to get it sorted for him let me know.

Good luck with it.

Thanks a lot, JJ, for the kind words. It's a Gen4 or older, and as Fatty, I think it's a GEN4 Harpoon Tanto - they didn't make other Fatties back then as far as I remember - in fact I have that knife, and love it.

If C Captsteveo is ready to send it to me, let me see how it looks and how far I will get with my spare parts - I might ask for help :)

Cheers,

Roland.
 
Hard to tell anything from the pictures. In the second one it might just be a visual affect due to lighting or the angle, but it almost looks like the gap between the blade and scale by the pivot isn't consistent which could be a washer pinched or bearings not seated quite right. I've seen a couple XM-18s that were off just slightly on the reassembled that acted similar and just needed taken apart and reassembled with care.

I don't know if that is the case or if ferider ferider can fix it, but he's a good guy and I wouldn't have any reservation sending it to him to look at. I'd offer to look at it if he hadn't already. I think he has as much experience with Hinderers as I do so hopefully he can help you out.

Roland ferider ferider I can't tell what Gen of XM-18 it is, but I have lots of spare parts if you take a look at it and need any to try to get it sorted for him let me know.

Good luck with it.
Thanks a bunch. You guys have been very helpful.
Steve
 
Thanks a lot, JJ, for the kind words. It's a Gen4 or older, and as Fatty, I think it's a GEN4 Harpoon Tanto - they didn't make other Fatties back then as far as I remember - in fact I have that knife, and love it.

If C Captsteveo is ready to send it to me, let me see how it looks and how far I get will get with my spare parts - I might ask for help :)

Cheers,

Roland.
The Hinderer guys said it was a Gen 4
 
I'm guessing this is what it is, on the right below. Look familiar ?

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(ignore the fancy screws)
 
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I understand their terms about the warranty but If this was a good US company they would repair your knife and charge you for spare parts.
I was just looking their knives and the prices..... huh ... according to their prices they should send a car to your home to pick your knife for repair.
Damn; do folks really buy those knives for such prices?

If US citizen (like you) supports US company and state economy by buying only US made products then US companies should also support back US citizens.
 
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