Looking for a "typical" pirate sword...?

Andrew Taylor said:
But Mr Triton, that shape is a Arabian Scimitar, currently used by the government for removing heads, albeit a little longer :)
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:) I believe the blade is actually from a Del Tin Falchion and I suppose European in original provenance although I would not put it past Fulvio to just dream something up either. Put a different handle on it and I can see it being hauled about by a harem guard though...
 
It's a wall hanger sword like object, not a real sword. I would not suggest that you do more with it than hang it from a wall and/or carry it in its scabbard as a part of a costume. Even swinging it around could cause it to break and cause injury to anyone near you.
 
Look, if you want Pirate weapons that you will not be afraid to play around with, order them from Museum Replicas at http://www.museumreplicas.com/webstore/eCat/pirate/pirate_weapons_and_armor/swords.aspx

The Pirate Cutlass, The Pirate's Companion Sword, The Scottish Cutlass, and Pirates Captain Hanger are the most historically correct ones and that last one is, I believe, based upon Jack Black's sword from "Pirates of the Caribbean." They just can't say it because they don't have the license from Disney.
 
FullerH said:
Look, if you want Pirate weapons that you will not be afraid to play around with, order them from Museum Replicas at http://www.museumreplicas.com/webstore/eCat/pirate/pirate_weapons_and_armor/swords.aspx

The Pirate Cutlass, The Pirate's Companion Sword, The Scottish Cutlass, and Pirates Captain Hanger are the most historically correct ones and that last one is, I believe, based upon Jack Black's sword from "Pirates of the Caribbean." They just can't say it because they don't have the license from Disney.
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Well I tend to agree that the Captain Hanger looks just like Jack Black's Cutlass......I think this will be the one.......
 
I suggest, as I did before, that you get it from MR, as their returns policy is reputedly quite good if the need arises. And, since they are the Wndlass distributor in the USA as well as owned by Windlass, they would have the best chance of having more in inventory.

In any case in my dealings wioth them in the past, their shipping has been quick and their items well packaged. But I have neot bought weapons from them althoough I have from their affiliate, Atlanta Cutlery.
 
authentic pirate swords would be the cutlass or the hangar. the less frills, the more authentic. the 1917 CS cutlass, though more modern, is along those lines. there are several, including, according to rumor, one of john paul jones' cutlasses adorning the walls of bancroft hall and king hall at the us naval academy. or there were back in 95 when i saw them. unfortunately, civilians aren't allowed. nor are photos, but i'm sure a little googling will find what a REAL cutlass looks like.

http://www.antiquesofthesea.com/1342_sword.html
http://www.antiquesofthesea.com/1336_sword.html
http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-weapons/swords.htm top two
 
jude_061 said:
authentic pirate swords would be the cutlass or the hangar. the less frills, the more authentic. the 1917 CS cutlass, though more modern, is along those lines. there are several, including, according to rumor, one of john paul jones' cutlasses adorning the walls of bancroft hall and king hall at the us naval academy. or there were back in 95 when i saw them. unfortunately, civilians aren't allowed. nor are photos, but i'm sure a little googling will find what a REAL cutlass looks like.

http://www.antiquesofthesea.com/1342_sword.html
http://www.antiquesofthesea.com/1336_sword.html
http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-weapons/swords.htm top two
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Jude, if you haven't read the entire thread, I suggest that you go back to Page 1 and read Merek's and my posts 14 & 15 to this thread. We pointed out that the heyday of the pirates was the late 17th and early 18th Centuries rather than the 19th Century, which is the period from which most of the cutlasses available come, including those in your illustrations. It is on that basis that I am recommending the cutlasses from Museum Replicas, that and the fact that Windlass Steel at least uses carbon steel rather than stainless in their swords.
 
FullerH said:
Jude, if you haven't read the entire thread, I suggest that you go back to Page 1 and read Merek's and my posts 14 & 15 to this thread. We pointed out that the heyday of the pirates was the late 17th and early 18th Centuries rather than the 19th Century, which is the period from which most of the cutlasses available come, including those in your illustrations. It is on that basis that I am recommending the cutlasses from Museum Replicas, that and the fact that Windlass Steel at least uses carbon steel rather than stainless in their swords.
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i read it. and i am extremely familiar with the age of piracy. those sites aren't to buy cutlasses, merely to illustrate ACTUAL cutlasses. the differences between one from 1788 and 1728 are minimal. i'm not disputing your recommendation, but if authenticity is what he's after, it won't hurt to see what sailors of the period actually used. i looked at MR, and the pirate captain's hangar is the closest.

there's a good book that breaks down piracy by angus konstam. it has very good illustrations.
 
I too have been searching through the various short hangers/cutlasses and the Museum Replicas Captain's Hanger caught my eye also. It is called the Captain Jack Sword on By the Sword, Inc.http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Windlass_Sword_Page_1.html.

It attracts me because of its minimalist design and functional look. The presence of a small pommel should pull the point of balance back toward the hilt a little bit. Its too bad ads don't give more info.

Evidently this is a copy of the sword of the fantasy character, captain Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Carribean. Ironically, this movie, in many ways one of the most unrealistic ever made, has inspired new widespread interest in real pirates and paraphenalia. I enjoyed the movie alot whatever faults it has.
 
What you saw WAS a rerun. But, knowing History Channel, I am certain that we have not seen the last of it.
 
I looked but could not find any listing for the show, "True Pirates of the Caribbean," but I did find this on the History International Cannel. It miight be of interest, although the shows that I have seen with Peter Woodward on the subject of of various other weapons were pretty silly. But they were entertaining, I will say that.

Mon, January 1 Conquest
4:30-5am Pirate Weapons
 
I enjoyed the history channel's "True Pirates of the Caribbean" very much. It started with the seeding of the larger islands with cattle and the resultant hunting by those who later turned pirate after the Spanish adopted a policy of slaughtering the cattle.

It takes the viewer through the time of warring countries and organized privateers like Henry Morgan who was actually knighted for his depradations.

Then it depicts the decline when pirates were no longer approved of by anyone but themselves. The time of Edward Teach and Bartholomew Roberts, probably the most accomplished of all.

I thought it was entertaining and relatively authentic for a show of its type.
 
i'm a history teacher and historian, myself. i find that history is boring to most people until theres a movie like gladiator or braveheart or pirates of the caribbean. then it becomes a fad. then i end up having to "unteach" it to the kids. at least they're interested though.

i'm still waiting for the pirates rerun. for background noise last night i got to hear of the eight ways we're all going to die, followed by the 04 tsunami. uplifting, huh?:D
 
jude_061 said:
i'm still waiting for the pirates rerun. for background noise last night i got to hear of the eight ways we're all going to die, followed by the 04 tsunami. uplifting, huh?:D
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Yes, I'm a fan of the history channel but at the same time its a shame they show so little real history. I guess they have to opt for more sensational material to keep people interested.

I'm sure "Real Pirates" will be recycled many times what with the new Johnny Depp movie scheduled to open soon.
 
How can I say this? History Channel has certain habits that drive me absolutely crazy. Among them is the tendency to use stock footage of the Ermine Street Guard whenever they want to show Roman soldiers. Now, these guys very accurately re-enact the Roman Legions of the period of the Claudian invasion of Britain in 43 CE and their arms and armor are clearly mid to late 1st Century CE, but they are used for any period from Romulus in 753 BCE to the Battle of the Catalaunnian Fields in 451 CE, a 1200 year period that extends from the Bronze Age until well into the Late Iron Age. It would be like someone using American Revolutionary era arms and equipment to illustrate the current fighting in Iraq. And they do this over and over again when there are plenty of re-enactment groups out there who would love to be filmed using more appropriate arems and armor. :grumpy:

Another habit is their tendency to give a soapbox, and credibility, to any and all crackpot theories that they can find. Indeed, it seems that the wierder the theory, the happier History Channel seems to be with it. Hence, the UPO shows, the conspiracy shows, the shows on Atlantis, etc.
 
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