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Looking for an all purpose bowie

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Hey guys
I'm just going to buy the CS trailmaster, which imo is a bowie one can use for chopping, slashing, stabbing, cutting. Finally I'm not jet 100 % convinced. Is there an alternative to the TM with similar properties, bladelength 10 +/- 1 inch and full tang?
Would be very glad to get some proposals.
Thanks in advance.
 
Sword Von Tempsky Bowie, Beck BK-9 is less traditional, but still frequently advertised as a bowie, Condor Dundee Bowie would be much less expensive. Trail master is a great choice, but those are some other options.
 
AG Russell has a couple in his catalog that are very well made and excellent materials.
Ontario has the Marine raider in 1095, looks like a black Western 49 . They also have the Generation 2 and Ranger line in 5160. Very tough!

Kabar has "large heavy bowie in 1085 for about $60, plus several other types in that line.

Browning has the competition certified (Crowell Barker) in 1084 or 1085.

The best cutter, chopper of all is IMO the Crowell Barker. The toughest is the Svord Von Tempsky in L6, then the SP "Generation 2) and Ranger line in 5160 Ontario. Extremely tough stuff!

The Trailmaster is neither the cheapest, nicest, toughest, nor best cutter/ chopper. I have one of all of the above and more including more expensive knives from Ferhman's line, Survive, Busse, Kin etc. The best deals are the ones above IMO.
 
Be patient and look for a Western W49.

I think I paid $65 for this one, the sheath & edge were toast but no biggie.

Then get busy with the Bagwell list of mods to it.




When you're done you'll not only have a great knife but one you made your own


 
I love the classic lines of the Trail Master. Well balanced, agile, deadly, if I lived 160 years ago I would feel well equipped carrying one in wild and dangerous Texas.

And then there's also the Blackjack 14 Halo Attack or the Bark River Rio Grande spear point Bowie...
 
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I love a good bowie!
My mind immediately jumps to the Ontario SP-10.
That was my first 'go and do everything' kinda knife.

That being said, you could do everything you've mentioned with a machete.
In fact, the most cost-effective would be to get a machete and modify it how you want.
For all-things-considered good value, I'd recommend Ontario or Condor.
For a sharpened prybar, I'd say take a look at Scrapyard knives.
If money's no real concern, then hit up a maker and have a custom one built for you.
 
Anyone check out that cheap $20 Winchester Bowie? I know its a cheapie but I just wonder if it would hold up at all. The thing is a beast for the price.
 
Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie, solid knife, decent sheath

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Thanks a lot for all these answers. Many knives mentioned here I know and, of course, I have checked them. With other knives I´m not so familiar but I find them interesting – please apologize my English, I hope it will not lead to misunderstandings.

Regarding the knives named as alternatives to the Trailmaster I´ll try to explain my
opinon – and as it´s only mine, I would appreciate your feedback. Because I will not waste your time, I start to answer without having checked all the infos I received.

Svord of Temsky is a knife which has my interest for a long time – but: the short and very curved clip point imo isn´t qualified for effective stabbing. That is also the case with the Marine Raider – unfortunately, because that´s also a knife I like. As the Svord of Tempsky is now produced with a blade thickness of 6.5 mm it´s twice as heavy as the TM and that´s too much imho for carrying it whole the day.
What is essential for stabbing is a guard to protect the hand from slipping into the blade, and this doesn´t have the Condor Bowie and also not the Kabar heavy Bowie, Busse BK9 etc.. Regarding the Busses I don´t know if they are also stabbers - the point is short and broad.
Not bad seems to be the western bowie and especially the modified variant of Ebbtide (an old German word, by the way) , which looks great.

Mastiff says: „The Trailmaster is neither the cheapest, nicest, toughest, nor best cutter/ chopper.“

Ok, that´s clear for me, but I do not understand this negative sound.
It´s not cheap in USA, here in Germany I´ll pay (in US dollars) around 350 for the SK5 or 01 version. That´s expensive. But isn´t it a good chopper, stabber, cutter and a good looking solid Bowie? Which knife has this all?

At the end I think people maybe mix up knives like the Bowies and survival knives. In former days bowies were knives for nearly all purposes, but I suppose no body for ex. would have made batoning with his knife he loved and which was so important for him. He couldn´t order next day another one at ebay.
Survival knives of these days are strong enough to cut cars into half – but that´s not a Bowie.
As a conclusion by having checked these messages I still would like an allrounder with all these capabilities I mentioned before. It should be like the Trailmaster, maybe instead of 8 mm thickness 6 are strong enough, a full width tang with a handle you can screw off and on, and with – I don´t know....

Thanks again so far and hoping of others ideas

a fan of this forum








Thanks a lot for all these answers. Many knives mentioned here I know and, of course, I have checked them. With other knives I´m not so familiar but I find them interesting – please apologize my English, I hope it will not lead to misunderstandings.

Regarding the knives named as alternatives to the Trailmaster I´ll try to explain my
opinon – and as it´s only mine, I would appreciate your feedback. Because I will not waste your time, I start to answer without having checked all the infos I received.

Svord of Temsky is a knife which has my interest for a long time – but: the short and very curved clip point imo isn´t qualified for effective stabbing. That is also the case with the Marine Raider – unfortunately, because that´s also a knife I like. As the Svord of Tempsky is now produced with a blade thickness of 6.5 mm it´s twice as heavy as the TM and that´s too much imho for carrying it whole the day.
What is essential for stabbing is a guard to protect the hand from slipping into the blade, and this doesn´t have the Condor Bowie and also not the Kabar heavy Bowie, Busse BK9 etc.. Regarding the Busses I don´t know if they are also stabbers - the point is short and broad.
Not bad seems to be the western bowie and especially the modified variant of Ebbtide (an old German word, by the way) , which looks great.

Mastiff says: „The Trailmaster is neither the cheapest, nicest, toughest, nor best cutter/ chopper.“

Ok, that´s clear for me, but I do not understand this negative sound?
It´s not cheap in USA, here in Germany I´ll pay (in US dollars) around 350 for the SK5 or 01 version. That´s expenisive. But isn´t it a good chopper, stabber, cutter and a good looking solid Bowie? Which knife has this all?

At the end I think people maybe mix up knives like the Bowies and survival knives. In former days bowies have been knives for nearly all purposes, but I suppose no body for ex. would have made batoning with his knife he loved and which was so important for him. He couldn´t order next day another one at ebay.
Survival knives of these days are strong enough to cut cars into half – but that´s not a Bowie.
As a conclusion by having checked these messages I still would like an allrounder with all these capabilities I mentioned before. It should be like the Trailmaster, maybe instead of 8 mm thickness 6 are strong enough, a full width tang with a handle you can screw off and on, and with – I don´t know....

Thanks again so far and hoping of others ideas

a fan of this forum



Thanks a lot for all these answers. Many knives mentioned here I know and, of course, I have checked them. With other knives I´m not so familiar but I find them interesting – please apologize my English, I hope it will not lead to misunderstandings.

Regarding the knives named as alternatives to the Trailmaster I´ll try to explain my
opinon – and as it´s only mine, I would appreciate your feedback. Because I will not waste your time, I start to answer without having checked all the infos I received.

Svord of Temsky is a knife which has my interest for a long time – but: the short and very curved clip point imo isn´t qualified for effective stabbing. That is also the case with the Marine Raider – unfortunately, because that´s also a knife I like. As the Svord of Tempsky is now produced with a blade thickness of 6.5 mm it´s twice as heavy as the TM and that´s too much imho for carrying it whole the day.
What is essential for stabbing is a guard to protect the hand from slipping into the blade, and this doesn´t have the Condor Bowie and also not the Kabar heavy Bowie, Busse BK9 etc.. Regarding the Busses I don´t know if they are also stabbers - the point is short and broad.
Not bad seems to be the western bowie and especially the modified variant of Ebbtide (an old German word, by the way) , which looks great.

Mastiff says: „The Trailmaster is neither the cheapest, nicest, toughest, nor best cutter/ chopper.“

Ok, that´s clear for me, but I do not understand this negative sound?
It´s not cheap in USA, here in Germany I´ll pay (in US dollars) around 350 for the SK5 or 01 version. That´s expenisive. But isn´t it a good chopper, stabber, cutter and a good looking solid Bowie? Which knife has this all?

At the end I think people maybe mix up knives like the Bowies and survival knives. In former days bowies have been knives for nearly all purposes, but I suppose no body for ex. would have made batoning with his knife he loved and which was so important for him. He couldn´t order next day another one at ebay.
Survival knives of these days are strong enough to cut cars into half – but that´s not a Bowie.
As a conclusion by having checked these messages I still would like an allrounder with all these capabilities I mentioned before. It should be like the Trailmaster, maybe instead of 8 mm thickness 6 are strong enough, a full width tang with a handle you can screw off and on, and with – I don´t know....

Thanks again so far and hoping of others ideas

a fan of this forum
 
You should look into a Scrapyard Regulator. It aint the prettiest knife, but it is very comfortable and robust and it comes with a great steel. I think it could handle anything you would throw at it
 
I am definitely a minority poster about this, but Cold Steal just released the TrailMaster in O-1. I got one of them and it seems to meet the quality of a $180 knife.
 
Can't go wrong with a Cold Steel Bowie machete. I bought mine a few months ago and couldn't be more happy with what I got for the low price.
 
In former days bowies have been knives for nearly all purposes,
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with that statement.
Back in the old days, before repeating firearms, bowie knives were weapons.
A back up to your muzzle loading rifle and pistol.
In the north it might have been a tomahawk. But both had the same end use.
And it wasn't chores around the homestead.
;)

Nowadays the lines are blurred.
For usage as well as terminology.
We don't *need* to carry them as weapons, so we've invented other uses for them like chopping, battoning and competition cutting.

These are the knives that I wanted as a kid, so I'll buy a bowie to scratch that itch.

Another, already mentioned, big knife to consider is the Barker Crowell Browning Competition Cutter.
A beastie of a knife. Makes the W49 look small and nimble.



Every big knife collection needs a W49 and BC Browining CC.
 
The Barker Crowell Browning - ok, very interesting stuff. Everything is ok with this knife, the only problem is stabbing, and that´s what might happen in survival situations, against predators etc.
 
You might want to take a look at the Cold Steel "Laredo" in San Mai. It's not inexpensive, but it's a beast of a knife. It has a definite stabbing/penetrating point as well as a VERY robust blade. Just a thought.....
 
The Ontario Marine Raider Bowie SP10 tip is pointy enough to stab. Though how likely you are to stab anything is a moot point.
 
Mastiff says: „The Trailmaster is neither the cheapest, nicest, toughest, nor best cutter/ chopper.“

Ok, that´s clear for me, but I do not understand this negative sound.

It's not meant to be negative. I like the knife and have had one since the 80's. In that group the Ontarios were cheapest. Nicest? Debateable. Crowell Barker Maybe? Nicest? Ontario Next Gen. Toughest? Ontario next gen, or Ranger tied with Svord. Best Cutter/Chopper? Crowell Barker.

I still like the Cold steel but I gave my opinions. I have all of them and that is a list of my opinions on what is what..
 
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