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The omeg spring isn't stressed during actual knife usage so I think you are accurate in assuming your excessive opening and closing is the source of your problem.

Instead of documenting a years use is necessary just count the amount of opening and closing you do and let us know the number per month.


A mini grip is my EDC 98% of the time and in a year and a half with the same knife the spring is going strong. I don't open and close my knife to consume excess energy.
 
pbcg said:
When you have sent in your knives in to Benchmade eight times have they ever given you any input or offered an opinion as to what the cause might be of all this breakage?

I've been carrying and using BM knives with the AXIS lock since almost he beginning starting with the 710 and never had even one spring break. My usage has varied from hard use, very hard use, light EDC these day's, to some I hardly use at all and even a couple of "Safe Queens" that never really get used but in all cases I've never had a broken Omega spring.

I'm really curious as to what might be going on here as that seems extremely high.

I know when you return a knife to BM for service they send you back a document of what was done to the knife, ie: sharpened, replaced clip, blade, screws. I would assume if they replaced the spring's it would say that too?

At any point did they offer an explanation or opinion?

Again, that seems so high I would think they would take a very serious interest?
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I have called twice about it. The first time was about a year ago. The lady simply said " that should not happen". She said she had no idea why that happens.

The second time I called Benchmade was to get an explanation as to why I sent a knife In to get fixed ( broken omega) and they sent me back a knife with a broken omega. All the lady did was give me a UPS label. She did not even apologize.
 
2 shot said:
The omeg spring isn't stressed during actual knife usage so I think you are accurate in assuming your excessive opening and closing is the source of your problem.

Instead of documenting a years use is necessary just count the amount of opening and closing you do and let us know the number per month.


A mini grip is my EDC 98% of the time and in a year and a half with the same knife the spring is going strong. I don't open and close my knife to consume excess energy.
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I honestly could not keep track of that. Over a year it would probably be in excess of 10,000 times.
 
I guess I will buy the knife in the next few days and start a thread. There is obviously a decent interest in how I could possibly do that. Like I said. I still don't know to this day.....
 
imbryan715 said:
I honestly could not keep track of that. Over a year it would probably be in excess of 10,000 times.
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Then I see no point in documenting your use. Like I said in my post it is not the way the knife is used it is how many times the spring is stretched (opened and closed).
 
2 shot said:
Then I see no point in documenting your use. Like I said in my post it is not the way the knife is used it is how many times the spring is stretched (opened and closed).
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Agreed.
It's like the old Tootsie Pop motto.
How many flicks to get an Omega spring to break. Or something like that.
 
2 shot said:
Then I see no point in documenting your use. Like I said in my post it is not the way the knife is used it is how many times the spring is stretched (opened and closed).
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Agreed,

and if your going to do that you should also have a different brand knife with a different lock type that you subject to the same "treatment" so you can see how it effects other locking mechanisms too.

Now that would be interesting don't you think?
 
2 shot said:
Then I see no point in documenting your use. Like I said in my post it is not the way the knife is used it is how many times the spring is stretched (opened and closed).
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I agree. The only time the spring is stressed is while opening/closing. Once the knife is open to be used, the spring is not put into a position to fail. It just sits there. So probably opening/closing (10,000 is a lot & probably the source of your failures) & not knife usage.

Logical, but still JMO.
 
Maybe the op suffers from acute thumb deployement? :)
I agree with 2shot, thats like buying a leek just to see how many flips it takes for the torsian bar to snap... It would be interesting, but its not really helpful.
Btw, its not how MANY times its moved, its how OFTEN, if i opened my leek once a year for 1,000 years, it would get more flips than if i opened it 100 times in one second
 
imbryan715 said:
I honestly could not keep track of that. Over a year it would probably be in excess of 10,000 times.
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Torsion bars on assisted opening Kershaws are rated at 10,000 cycles, so if you're getting that many cycles on a spring that is 1/3 the diameter of a torsion bar, then you are getting fantastic life out of the spring.

Personally, I'm not willing to follow a years worth of you sitting on the couch playing with your knife.
 
i think some people are forgetting the initial intentions of the test. the idea is not for me to sit down and see how long it takes me to break the axis lock. the idea is to see how a knife will hold up to a year of carry. the reason i want to test a Benchmade is because of my poor luck with the company. i seen to be one of only a few users that has had poor luck so i figured it might be interesting to document.

if you still chose not to follow that is perfectly fine. i honestly dont expect a very large group to follow periodic updates on the knife. i was just seeing if there was any interest before spending my money on a knife i probably would not purchase otherwise.
 
Sure, I would subscribe. I am curious. This old 720 has been through hell and back.It still has the original omega springs.
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imbryan715 said:
i dont put my edc's under every hard tasks. what i honestly think affected them was me playing with the knives semi regularly when i watch tv. but im not abusing the locks through strain under use. if you look closely at the axis lock springs they are tiny. that was the cause of all of my issues.
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I knew this was the problem when I saw you were wearing out omega springs so quick. The reason I know this is I did the same thing with my first mini-grip - flicking/playing with a knife with an axis lock is addicting. After I had the first set of springs I forced myself to quit playing with the mini- grip and moved on to other knives.
 
imbryan715 said:
hey guys and gals!,
the thing i am honestly most curious about myself is seeing just how long it takes me to break the axis lock omega springs. ( i would guess less than 2 months from personal experience).
thanks a lot! ,

Bryan
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imbryan715 said:
i think some people are forgetting the initial intentions of the test. the idea is not for me to sit down and see how long it takes me to break the axis lock. the idea is to see how a knife will hold up to a year of carry.
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Uhm, I'm confused...
 
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