Looking to buy a new pistol

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I'm looking into buying a new pistol. I just turned in my permit to purchase paperwork today for good 'ol NC. I was looking into a Kimber .45, but now I'm thinking maybe something else, something that I can teach my girlfriend to shoot with. Maybe a .40? She's a tiny girl, and I'm not too familiar with anything other than revolvers. Any suggestions on a nice semi auto? Thanks!
 
glocks are about the simplest to shoot, dissasemble, clean, and maintain. also easy on the wallet.

i love kimbers, and 1911's, but can be high maintenance.

the only problem i see with a glock for your gf is the grip size and recoil. since it is so light, boxy, and with the .40's snappy recoil, she may not be comfortable.
 
for an edc pistol i like the poly kahrs, the PM9 & P9, i dont think ya can beat them for reliability, accuracy and ease of carry, and i have tried a few.

the glocks, springfield XD's, SIGs & kimbers are all good too, but imho none of them carry as well as the kahrs.

my wife also had small hands& body (5'2 - 110) and she loved her kahr PM9, thats what she edc'd for ~ 5 yrs.
 
i personally think kimber is overrated. i would just as soon get a springfield 1911. Sigsaur is known to be nice and well built but i dont have any personal experience. id say you really cannot go wrong with a Glock or Springfrield XD. cheaper, light, high capacity, simple.

as for caliber size id say it depends, is the gun mainly for SD or plinking AND SD? if its the first, go with .45 . if its the latter, go with 9mm its a bit cheaper and easy to shoot but still a decent SD caliber.

had a few revolvers and a glock 30 and xd9. when i needed money the one i kept was the xd9. was the first one i bought myself after long decision. either way you go take the time to do the research and really think about how youll be using it. youll kick yourself if you dont. happy shootin' -CB
 
Well, I'm getting into the Criminal Justice field (I decided to go back to school) and I know they use Glock .40's down here. So I was kinda thinking of one of those. Or possibily HK....my gf is also 5'1" 100 lbs. soaking wet, and she has never even fired a weapon. Maybe I'll just get something down the road that she can use, and get what I want for now.:D Thanks for the quick imput from all of you! I appreciate it!!
 
I am a die hard wheel gun guy, but I must say I LOVE :) my Taurus 1911. Very sweet trigger, very accurate. Easy to shoot, single column mag good for small hands (like me). Autos require a different mind set than revolvers (PUT THE SAFETY ON DUMMY:eek:) I don't see what more you could want in a side arm. Some reviews complain of uneven quality control, etc, Maybe I was lucky, but for about the same price as a basic Springfield you get a tricked out gun with Taurus. The price has been steadily climbing on these but check around.
 
I must ask, what is a permit to purchase?
 
If this is your only pistol, and you intend to teach your girlfriend to shoot then you should look into a gun that you can at least put a .22 conversion kit on, if your not able to buy a .22 to go with it.

For one, even 9mm is getting expensive to shoot, while .22 is still pretty reasonable for a day at the range.
And second, its very difficult for a new shooter to go right to a centerfire pistol, especially someone as small as your girlfriend. I've taken several new shooters to the range and always start them with a buckmark .22 for a handgun. After a mag or two they settle right in and get comfortable enough with shooting to actually work on sight picture, trigger control and all the important stuff rather than worrying about the noise, or dropping the gun, or hurting their hand. After a 100 rounds or so I usually offer a try on a 9mm and while most are able to shoot it pretty well by this point, its obvious that the recoil and noise are a big distraction still.
 
I must ask, what is a permit to purchase?

In North Carolina, we have to go to our county sheriff and apply for a buyer's permit every single time we want to buy a handgun. Unless, of course, you have a CCW. In that case, the CCW acts as a buyers permit.
 
I think you would find the sharper recoil of the 40 more of a problem for the recoil sensitive than the slower push of the 45acp. The 9mm is still one of the top calibers for semi-autos and if you go to a wheel gun then the 38/357 S&W like an L-Frame can't be beat. I would suggest that both of you go to a range that rents firearms and try as many as you can and try to find one that both of you like and can shoot.

As for the H&K USP in 40...lol...not me...nope...I got bit too hard and yes I am superstitious...here is an article about my one and only USP 40: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/tapioca.html ...and yes that is my gun and my hands...

I know it was a problem that doesn't exist now and H&K makes excellent firearms, I still own H&Ks, but still.....
 
In North Carolina, we have to go to our county sheriff and apply for a buyer's permit every single time we want to buy a handgun. Unless, of course, you have a CCW. In that case, the CCW acts as a buyers permit.

Ah. Thank you.
 
I think the Glock model 19 would be a good gun for you. Semi auto of course, and it's a 9MM in a compact size. Fairly light weight and modest recoil.
 
I much prefer the recoil of a 1911 to any .40 I've shot. I have a Wilson Combat, and if you can possibly afford it, that would be my recommendation. If not, save your money and get a Springfield 1911 (my research came up with too many problems with Kimbers, especially for the price). Springfield also has good customer service.

With all that said, my wife prefers to shoot our .357 Ruger GP100. If you got this, you could also start your girlfriend out with softer (and cheaper) .38s.

Let us know what you get and how it works out!
 
I think you would find the sharper recoil of the 40 more of a problem for the recoil sensitive than the slower push of the 45acp. The 9mm is still one of the top calibers for semi-autos and if you go to a wheel gun then the 38/357 S&W like an L-Frame can't be beat. I would suggest that both of you go to a range that rents firearms and try as many as you can and try to find one that both of you like and can shoot.

As for the H&K USP in 40...lol...not me...nope...I got bit too hard and yes I am superstitious...here is an article about my one and only USP 40: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/tapioca.html ...and yes that is my gun and my hands...

I know it was a problem that doesn't exist now and H&K makes excellent firearms, I still own H&Ks, but still.....

Absintheur’s post is very, very good advice.

As you stated, your girlfriend is already familiar with revolvers. The manual of arms is for semiautos requires training to be used effectively, and under stress, you tend to react to what you are used to.

Also, revolvers tend to take neglect much better than a semiauto - with a revolver, you load and forget it until you need it - something to keep in mind if your girlfriend is not "into guns".

Look at :

S&W
Taurus
Ruger

However if you just gotta' get her a semi, you might want to look at these :

Glock
S&W M&P
S&W Sigma
Walther P99
Kahr
Springfield XD

Buying a gun you've not shot is like buying a car without test driving it first. Get her out to a range and have her handle and shoot different makes before you buy. Get the largest caliber pistol or revovlver she is both comfortable and accurate with.

Oh, and don't buy any reloads that use Accurate Arms #5 powder........:D

TR Graham
The Glocksmith
 
L-frames are bulky and heavy to carry. And then, you only get 6-7 shots.

Consider the Glock 19 or 17, or the S&W M&P fullsize or compact in 9mm.

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I liked 9mm because it is inexpensive. My first semi-auto was a Taurus PT-99 AFS. I had it for 15 years and it was okay. I sold it this year and replaced it with a Glock 19. I always wanted a sub-compact so I got the Glock 19 smaller sibling, the Glock 26. If you want bigger holes, .45 ACP is great. The pistols I have in that caliber is Sig Sauer. The Sig Sauer P220R is a nice pistol but a bit expensive. But at least the magazines aren't as expensive as the one that comes with HK pistols. Speaking of pistol magazines, buy a boatload if you can. It just makes it more convenient when you go shooting at the range as you don't have to reload as often.
 
L-frames are bulky and heavy to carry. And then, you only get 6-7 shots.

Consider the Glock 19 or 17, or the S&W M&P fullsize or compact in 9mm.

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A 7 shot 686 in 2 1/2 inch weighs 35 ozs, a Glock 19C loaded weighs 31 ozs, not a big difference at all. As far as bulk they are very similar in length and height, I carry an 2 1/2 N-Frame daily, it is neither to heavy or too bulky. The K-frame is available as well, lighter and slimmer yet. If concealment is still a concern the look to a J-Frame tho I regard them to be a BUG.

Revolvers have several advantages as pointed out by others, they are they best firearms for those who do not wish to learn and continuously practice the immediate action drills.

Accurate #5 is not a bad powder...just not the best for the 40S&W. You will note the source that made the powder I used no longer exists....at all...lol.
 
A 7 shot 686 in 2 1/2 inch weighs 35 ozs, a Glock 19C loaded weighs 31 ozs, not a big difference at all.

Some would argue that a fully loaded G-19, weighing only 88% of the L-frame is a significant decrease in weight. Except that you listed the EMPTY weight of the L-frame, but at least you rounded up. Smith & Wesson lists the weight of the 7 shot @ 34.5 oz. Add 7 Corbon 125 grain JHP's, the weight becomes 37.78 oz. Let's round that up to 38 oz, as a heavier bullet would easily exceed that. NOW the loaded G-19 is 81.5% the weight, nearly 20% less. But Glock cites the loaded weight is 29.98 oz. Rounding up to 30 oz, it now becomes 78.9% as heavy. Many folks would view that difference as significant. And besides, flat guns carry easier than round guns, as a general rule.

As far as bulk they are very similar in length and height, I carry an 2 1/2 N-Frame daily, it is neither to heavy or too bulky. The K-frame is available as well, lighter and slimmer yet. If concealment is still a concern the look to a J-Frame tho I regard them to be a BUG.

The cylinder thickness of the L-frame is 1.564" compared to 1.18 for the Glock, just shy of 1/4" difference in thickness. Again, many folks would consider this as significant.

Revolvers have several advantages as pointed out by others, they are they best firearms for those who do not wish to learn and continuously practice the immediate action drills.

They do have advantages, but they also have disadvantages that have been overlooked. As I previously stated, the recommended L-frames only hold 6-7 rounds, so right away there is the capacity disadvantage. These rounds have a long, hard, often gritty trigger pull standing in the way of even modest accuracy. While the trigger pull can be lightened and smoothed, it's still a long hard pull, especially compared to a tuned (or untuned) Glock trigger. And after your 7th shot, you're reloading......providing you brought a speedloader. Meanwhile, the Glock shooter is firing shots 8 thru 16 if necessary. Even a 7 shot revolver must reload TWICE to get 16 shots fired. (providing you brought TWO speedloaders!)

Some other disadvantages are weight, trigger reach, recoil (with full power loads) and muzzle blast.

The OP asked for a semi-auto. Throwing the untrained inexperienced girlfriend into the mix is really a red herring. She needs to start with a different gun, or as suggested, a .22 conversion kit on the semi-auto.

If the person will not practice shooting or drills, then honestly, ANY gun would be a poor defense choice.
 
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