Losing The War Against Humidity

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Greetings Hogs,

I live in a pretty humid area (SE Houston) that flooded not too long ago, which destroyed my first-floor apartment, totaled two cars and caused my wife and I to move in with her parents for the foreseeable future (whose house took no water as they are at higher elevation than the crest of the floodwater, thank goodness, and they live only a mile away from my previous residence). Ever since moving in with them, I've been battling rust on my blades like my life depends on it. I didn't have humidity or rust issues at my apartment, but in the in-laws' house it's a different story.

Most of my Busses, Kin and other brands are coated, so it's not that big of a deal, but it's a pain in the junk to inspect, rub and oil them every other day. I read a long time ago that Burt's Bees (yes, the lip balm) is good at creating an effective barrier against oxidation (due to the beeswax), adheres pretty well/stays put since it's so viscous, and is foodsafe (and smells minty fresh!); this has proven to be true on my higher-carbon steel blades, but those are mostly coated as well, so I'll probably end up using that on my coated Busses/Kin.

However, I have two satin Busses and a tiny custom damascus necker that I don't exactly want to slather with lip balm (and a pet project BK-9 that I stripped and sanded). In the past couple days I've acquired a couple of glass-topped wooden display boxes in which to store my nicer blades, a sack of reusable silica gel packets (the blue-to-pink kind) and I'm waiting on a Tuf-Cloth (I have Tuf-Glide already). Within about 18 hours all four silica gel packets per display box had turned from blue to pink, indicating saturation, so I'm going to a nearby Container Store later on to grab some oblong airtight containers to house all but an 1111 and an RFO (basically a shorter AK).

While I'm planning to use the Tuf-Glide/Tuf-Cloth on blades I don't intend for potential food use, I don't know how it would affect, say, the "Story Book" handles on my CS Boss Jack if some crept in near the handle material, so I'm a bit reluctant to use it on that one in particular (the other uncoated blade being an EPDLE, which I think may have some rust forming under a section of G10, which scares the bajesus out of me, and I've had to address some very small surface spots already). Furthermore, I'd prefer not to coat at least the Boss Jack with a toxic substance (Tuf-Glide) because I plan to actually use it for camping/hiking/flashy kitchen use on occasion.

Lately I've been using ALG Go-Juice (a firearm lubricant--and a good one at that, mostly because I have it and it's nontoxic) as a stopgap oil since a leaky bottle of mineral oil under the sink was compromised by floodwater. It works all right, but I'm not entirely sure what it's composed of and it's more of a lubricant than a protectant. I also have a random assortment of oils and lubricants that might (?) work as well (white mineral oil, silicone lube, CRK fluorinated grease, M-Pro 7 Synthetic Grease), but I figured I'd inquire for some seasoned swine in Busse/Kin care and storage.

I'm sure this has been asked time and again, but what types of protectant do you gusy use to abate rust/oxidation issues on your finer blades? What methods of storage do you find work best? The absurdly long prelude about the living with my in-laws' was meant to say, I can't exactly invest in a humidity-controlled safe at the moment for cost and space reasons primarily, as that would be the ultimate solution here along with the use of desiccant and oil/protectant. Would airtight storage containers (think Tupperware) combined with silica gel packets combined with Burt's Bees or Tuf-Glide/Tuf-Cloth be sufficient? What about blades that simply cannot be stored in anything but open air due to size limitations?--(RFO and 1111)--sure, I can go beat them clean, but what about between beatings? What about uncoated/satin-finished blades? Blades with handles that aren't your usual micarta/G10?

Any input here is appreciated. I've been fighting this fight for almost three weeks and I feel like I'm losing. I can't keep baking reusable silica gel packs and inspecting all blades on a daily basis. It's exhausting.

Thanks for your time.
 
EEZox beats all but nasty. So i usually use break-free clp. if you get it on your hands it's no biggy. Neither of which is food safe but saved all my guns and blades through 3 powerless months of katrina aftermath.
 
Yeah slip 2000 ewl regular not the thin or extra thick is great but not as good against rust. I buy that crap in the big 32oz bottles
 
Why not get an air tight container and house your knives with the silica gel packs in that?

Air tight + silica gel pack = atmospheric control = humidity free.
 
Gun Socks or the like. There are some non silicone based socks as well, I believe.. VCI..something..Berretta makes some non silicone gun slips/bags

I've also used RIG universal for long term storage of firearms w/ good results..
 
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Renaissance wax works really good. I live just north of Galveston in Hitchcock and it helps with all of my blades, users and collectables.
 
Ever try Frog Lube? It's all I use in the swamp land I am from...humid as all get up in SE Va.
 
Tried to find the pic, can't...a knifemaker had posted a test result among 4 different protectants covering your basic carbon steel (1095, maybe? Same type for all 4, same condition, looked unfinished), his intention was to protect his own blades... Ren Wax won hands down. Really, by a very visible margin.
 
Get a large pelican box rifle case the foam holds all the knives in place and they are waterproof
 
Thank you guys for your recommendations. As much as I'd like to get a large Pelican case, I can't swing that kind of cash right now; gotta go with what I can afford at the moment ($7 airtight containers from Container Store). I'll definitely be looking into Renaissance Wax and some items mentioned by duramax in conversation. Heard good things about Froglube as well (for more than just blades).
 
+4 for Renwax, you can also put it on the handles of all your blades to protect them too.
Renewax can be used on the following surfaces: Wood, leather, paper, Bone, pearl and mother of pearl, gemstones, any kind of metal, photographic prints, enamel, fiberglass, granite, and on and on.
 
Obenauf's beeswax/leather protectant works great on protecting my non stainless blades. Taste great too!
 
I use ZEP food grade sanitary spray. It works for me it's food safe and actually repels water/moisture. We use it where I work (food plant) it is NSF1 rated for food contact.
 
No comment on Tuf-Glide/Tuf-Cloth?

Secured some rubber gasketed latching containers, they should be able to house all but my 1111 and RFO. Honorearth's Pelican rifle case suggestion is the most ideal and practical given my situation as I also have an AR-15 to worry about on top of my Busses. I have an FNX .45 Tactical in a Boyt (knockoff Pelican) case that I'm not too concerned about.

It's the EPDLE and CS Boss Jack silently oxidizing at night that keep me awake.

All things considered, Pelican rifle case might be worth the financial hit as an investment in not messing up that sweet uncoated INFI and decent rifle.

Once again, I do appreciate and value the input thus far.
 
If it was me, I would find some ammo cans and inspect the seals.

Then put blades in cans with desicant. Do not put anything fabric or that otherwise holds moisture.

Then put a big desicant pack in each ammo can.

Once you close it, do not open them back up unless needed. Every time you open it, you reintroduce more humidity. If you keep them closed, desicant will dry out the air in the can and have left over capacity for any leakage (which is a lot less moisture than when you open the can once.

If you are really worried, use some of the wax/oil products suggested.

But if you go the can route, remember......thr less you open the can, the better. I'd even go so far as to say every time you open a can, replace the desicant pack with a new one.
 
I thought your thread title said "loosing the war against humanity!" lol that's something I can relate to! ;)Sorry no help here but am very sorry for your troubles and wish you and your family safe travels and speedy recovery! Esp livin w the inlaws!;):D


ETA: spelling errors n shyt lke dat :confused:
 
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In the meantime, may I suggest not storing your knives in any leather...it absorbs moisture also. You may want to avoid the cardboard blade protectors...a lot of types of cardboard can be slightly on the acidic side of the scale. If they sweat a little moisture, oxidation can occur at contact between it and the blade.
You can rub plain mineral oil on the blades to hold them over until you decide what to use...mineral oil is food safe, should stop new rust from forming.
 
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