LOTR v HP

Great thread Tom.
It seems that magic is the center of the HP sotries. Everything revolves around it. In the LOTR, magic is almost incidental. I is more about struggle, sacrifice, honor, choosing to do the right thing, courage and more importantly, ordinary beings doing extraordianry things. It is not Gandalf or the elves or any magic that defeats the evil. It is a simple Hobbit who through courage, a sense of duty and honor takes upon himself the burden and perseveres to triumph. It is also about the others who stand up and do their part. The life lessons in the LOTR in my opinion are numerous and invaluable. There are example after example in real life of these attributes, although we seldom hear of them. Saving Private Ryan was not a factual based film, but my favorite scene in the movie is where Tom Hanks character reveals that before the war he was a school teacher. How appropriate. I find HP entertaining, and I little bit of "the moral of the story", but near as powerful as LOTR.
And Tom , you are right about the written word. Movies cam evoke emotion and some thought and entertain. But mostly they are sensory input being thrown at you. When you read, you have to process the word. You create you own imagery and exercise your intellect and imagination. How may times have you read a passage, stopped to think about what you just read or gone bac to reread it and ponderit. The story did not pass you. It waited for you and let you reenter as if you never left. Can't do that with a movie. It's no wonder that books are often bannned when evil begins to take a foothold.
Anyway, I'm rambling now. Thanks for starting the thread Tom, and all the comments have been great.
Terry
 
i've read LOTR when in junior HS, and have reaad it every year since then. it opened up a new world for me; not middle earth, but literature itself. i've read some of the potter books, and while they weren't my favorite, they weren't terrible, either. it amazes me the amount of garbage that has been spouted off about these stories. now that the author has "outed" one of the main characters, i imagine that criticism will surge again. it's ridiculous. if you're some christian zealot who sees the devil in children's books (and i don't mean you, gravertom, i mean anyone at all), your problems lie within yourself. all you'll be doing is denying a fresh young mind the gift of literature.
 
There are non magical people in the HP books too. The people with the potential for magic are invited to the school.

The stories are good. Give them a read Tom.

I'm a big fan of the Dune series too.
 
There are non magical people in the HP books too. The people with the potential for magic are invited to the school.

The stories are good. Give them a read Tom.

I'm a big fan of the Dune series too.

Check one for DUNE. Great books, but not for children.

On another note. No one should deny anyone the right to read anything they wish. Some books may need guidance so youth can understand the concept, but not letting kids read HP is kinda nazish.
 
You know, Mark Twain is banned in my school district back home in Plano, Texas.
(because it contains the N-word)
 
Lots of great points. I love Kronke's law!

:D:D:D

I'd rather be accused of stupidity than malice any day!

:)

Dune is not for kids. I could have done without some of the imagery myself...

I don't advocate keeping things from responsible adults. My 9 year old is not allowed to use my torch, but can use my carving gouges while under my supervision. My 13 year old can use my finishing sander without my supervision.

I'll think about it Andy, but time is so short. maybe I'll assign one to my oldest in a year or two, after I've indoctrinated him a bit more first! ;)

he can give me the sitrep.

take care,

Tom
 
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