Lots of anger in other forums

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Shann

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I'm disappointed with the tone of some of the threads going on in other areas. Everybody is seeming to get really negative. Mad at some guy because he sold a knife for a lot of money and didn't deserve it; mad at some guy because they think he's Shiva Ki. It goes on and on. The moderators seem as bad as anyone else.

I'm glad that its not happening in our happy little cantina. I'm depressed enough. Can't wait till I get my Foxy Folly so that we can post some new reviews up!!
 
Shann?

I think there's a lot of anger everywhere these days. Even humor isn't humor anymore very often. It seems to be transplanted by sarcasm, ridicule, or vulgarity for the sake of vulgarity. Bill Maher, Leno, even Letterman...and their writing staffs all seem to go for mean-spirited stuff.

It's odd, we have so much in terms of education, health, opportunities, technology...perhaps too much for a slowly evolving species to accomodate?

It wears one out.


On the other hand, this is the 25th anniversary of the movie AIRPLANE!

Hang in. The khukuri will give you a chance to talk to a kami in Nepal, and both your lives will be richer.
 
Kismet said:
Shann?
On the other hand, this is the 25th anniversary of the movie AIRPLANE!
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Love that movie! Some of my faves Blazing Saddles, Airplane and the ones Leslie Neilson does, Col Frank Drebin. Naked gun. I like stupid and campy.



"We're living in a time of inconvenience
Compassion fails me with this meanness in the air
Our city streets are filled with violence
So we close our doors to the city
And pretend that it's not there

This is the time of greed and power
Where everyone needs to have someone to shove around
Our children come to us for answers
Listening for freedom but they don't know the sound
And there they are, our children
Dumped out in these mean streets
The evil sweeps them up
And brings them to their knees
Cuz' they're living in our time of inconvenience
They're living in the age of communication
This is the time of greed and power
This is the time that I wish was not mine
Cuz' it's an inconvenient time" (Nanci Griffith)
 
Well, maybe the 4th of July will chill people out.
Nothing like hamburgers and homemade cake.
Damnit I miss home.
Tell everybody to be nice cause UBs' watching us...
 
I agree, it is tough these days. I think the world is losing a lot of innocence .... well, maybe not losing, but becoming more aware of the imbalances that exist in the world.

The level of corporate and government greed and control is more apparent to everyone these days. They basically do it right out in the open now. This is bad and not good.


I think really though, the true reason the other forums aren't happy is because they don't have the nice knives that we do. :D :rolleyes: We've all commented how much spirit is in our kukris, which we obviously get our sustenance from. Consider it like holding Nutritional Steel, while those other guys keep buying empty calorie pieces of metal. ;)

~ B
 
It seems like there is a lot of mental and emotional stress nowadays. I see it in the people around me and even in myself. I'm glad that the Cantina is here because its a place where I can relax and talk with people of similar interests without some kind of competition going on.

Ice
 
I calmed down a few years ago. Nowadays it amazes me, the little things I used to let aggravate me. There are few things worth getting worked up over- and when you let little things bother you, you often don't have enough energy to fight the things worth fighting.
 
I think people are working a lot more now. People work longer, drive farther to work, usually most families can't afford to have one person stay home.

On the other hand I experience so much grace from people on a regular basis that it is hard for me to say whether people are meaner or just that the meaner ones are more visible. I have had people be so polite to me and so good.
 
The world is just stressed out right now. Hopefully, we get through the troubling stuff soon, but i'm not holding out for that in the near future. We have controversy in war, book deals for people that did the wrong thing, and a government that either thumbs it's nose at our intelligence or is so devided on the most bull$h$t of issues that finger pointing and name calling is common practice for politicians....and that's just over here.
We live in a hypersensitive time where its harder for a man to just go his own way, do his own thing, and not hurt anybody. We can no longer make mistakes or change our minds without a collective and quite public finger pointing and "Ahhmmmmmm!" as we spill our own milk. We can't speak our minds because truth, or perceived truth, is not what people want to hear. They want to hear nothing that puts blame on anyone where blame is due, because it might hurt said person's feeling or be thought of as racist if the offending idiot happens to be a different skin color.
<<Sigh>> This is why i enjoy the cantina so much. All different races, faiths, and polical standpoints coming together to talk about life, love, all that is beautiful, and of course,..the knives. You all a great people. Honestly, i think everyone has the capasity to be "great people" but it takes a special place that is cultivated by understanding and respect to show others that it is not "me vs. them". We are family. This Cantina should be taught as a college course;)

Jake
 
These khukuris are more than just knives... something more.

They seem to be imbued with... something elusive, indefinable, but good. Like the Tao, when you reach for it, it disappears. It's a correctness, something you can only sense or feel. It's something you either get, or you don't.

We're the ones that get it, in a flash of enlightenment that vanishes with its perception.

Lucky/blessed/poor us!


Ad Astra


hehe "empty calorie pieces of metal..."

Imagine buying a knife, and only getting a knife! Compared to us, they're getting ripped off....
 
Anger is a way of life.


Kismet is right about sarcasm and passive aggression.

We live in a world where we are both rewarded socially and paid commercially for lying. (They've been singing about this a long time; John Lennon and Richard Thompson come to mind) Say one thing do another. Achievment is punished socially in school. There is hardly a single positive step that is not punished. We live in a world of conflicting cues. I still call them schizophrenigenic but the literature has changed and no longer uses that old phrase.

Anyone ever had one of those cats who'd been abused as a kitten by a cat hater? (or a fool) They love to be petted, but get very upset and will suddenly turn and bite and scratch seriously. They seek love- then attack.

I'm actually surprised we survive. Our jobs are often numbing and frustrating. Sometimes we are recognized by our works, more often we are overlooked.

If we'd designed a society specifically to create madness we couldn't have done much better.

I don't know how people survive this. In many nations getting enough to eat, avoiding grave disease, and being warm at night are not givens.
The next step up isn't so hot, but it's better than starving.

We ignore the bad. We live anyway. But there's a cost.

I'm glad this thread was written- thanks to Shann. Anger is something I've always wrestled with.

There's rage all across the internet. An outlet, at last, don't you see? It's just a further development of what made CB radio trash talk. Now the venue is even better- it can be annonymous. All the frustration comes out. The most common immediate mistake is the attitude, "I don't have to suffer fools any longer, and can give them their just deserts."

The larger society does this too- scapegoats. But on the net it's an Art. The rightieousness of those who would punish others is spectacular. On some forums, being found 'wrong' invites stoning, moral condemnation, suspician of graft and corruption and is punished severely. Their humanity is removed- they don't deserve it, you see.

Anger is always flirting dangerously with dehumanization. It very hard to express anger without falling into that trap.

HI forum is one of the new developments in society and on the net. It is the good that can come from this technology. It would be worth spending time here even if one did not admire Khukuris, so rare is the experience.




munk
 
I fall into it. I try not to, but still fail. You'll find my post in the Shiva Ki thread. I deal with negativity all the time with varying degrees of success. I could be a lot worse, I was at one time. One minute at a time, I am improving. One step forward and two back sometimes, but moving forward.

"I just want you to know...We're all pulling for you."
 
munk said:
It's just a further development of what made CB radio trash talk. munk
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Interesting you mention that! I have thought about that analogy many times. Everyone even has "handles" just like the 70's CB guys.

Now CW Mc Call needs to write a song about it. ;)
 
Shann said:
I'm disappointed with the tone of some of the threads going on in other areas. Everybody is seeming to get really negative. Mad at some guy because he sold a knife for a lot of money and didn't deserve it; mad at some guy because they think he's Shiva Ki. It goes on and on. The moderators seem as bad as anyone else.

I'm glad that its not happening in our happy little cantina. I'm depressed enough. Can't wait till I get my Foxy Folly so that we can post some new reviews up!!
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The potential for anger is here in this forum too.

How many times have I been irritated or felt my ego was tweaked by something someone wrote? Many times it has more to do with my internal state than whatever someone else wrote. But it's hard for me to see that when I'm in a stressed-out-rabid-dog state.

The words of friends help me gain perspective sometimes. The buddhists have a word for the community of monks on the path. It is the "sangha." Maybe this is the khukuri sangha.

I used to think it was good to be in balance. Many years ago I gave up trying to achieve that though. I only ever achieve instantaneous balance as I'm passing through to the other side. Now I just keep trying to continually correct myself.

It's like swinging a big Ganga Ram, and you realize that your leg is in its path. You're not going to stop that sucker in midair. Gently correct its path and move your damn leg.
 
Josh Feltman said:
Screw all you people. What a bunch of jerkfaces! :mad:


;)
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No Sh*t! :p Khukuris holding some kind of magic power, what? :eek: Are all of you nucking futz? :rolleyes:











<VBESEG>
Okay, Yvsa's going to take his happy meds now, proves Rusty and I really was kin.:rolleyes: ;) :D
Rusty's Med's!!!! Now that's -Something- I wish Gin had of been able to auctioned off!!!! :cool: :D

Little Bastid!!!! I'm still pissed at him for leaving us so early!!!! : Double Grumpy :
 
Shann said:
I'm disappointed with the tone of some of the threads going on in other areas.
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Internet ninja's are fairly common, never use their actual name, and create an internet personality to work out real life problems. They are what they are, you might as well be disappointed that the rain is wet.

Bill created a unique forum here as it was molded in his image, he was blunt sure, but honest and while very much selling knives, tended to talk about them as if he had no monetary interest in them, but that was just due to his faith in their quality.

I remember people asking him about his khukuris and instead of ranting about how great they were he would simple say "Why are you asking me, I am selling them, go ask the customers." (paraphrase - poorly)

Now you could ask him what they could or could not do and he would be frank and honest, but he prefered to let the user base do the promotion, and spent his time talking about other things.

Many times I ask questions about performance just simple statements like "How far can that bend?" or "What would happen if I hit a rock while cutting some grass." and it induces huge threads filled with flames for days. It is too bad Bill was so unique.

Most people here probably don't remember but Bill was the reason I started reviewing knives, and it was because of him and similar minded people, which are unfortunately the minority that I kept it up.

It is nice to see this place lives on without him, it is just another example of the strength of his character.

-Cliff
 
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