Loveless bolt components

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Does anyone know what, exactly, loveless bolts sold by suppliers like Jantz and Texas Knifemaker are made from? I've searched McMaster and MSC exhaustively, and the closest I can find to the nut part of the bolt/nut combo are zinc-placed brass circuit board standoffs with 8-32 threading to match the SS 1 1/4" 8-32 bolt. Does anyone have any idea where these mystery nuts come from and what they're called? For clarity's sake, I'm speaking of the 5/16 OD, round, 9/32" long brass, stainless, or nickel silver nuts with 8-32 or similar threading. I assume that finding a matching bolt would be a snap once the bolts are found. I'm slightly unwilling to cut stock to length, ream, tap, and countersink every nut by hand. If this is what loveless did, so be it. I suspect he did not...

Thanks for your input
Patrick
 

Russ Andrews

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The earlier (real) Loveless screws used an 8-32 SS screw, and a 3/8" brass or SS
washer which was countersunk for the screw head, and a 3/8" nut.
The washer and nut were shaped to match the countersink.

The obverse or front side would have a bulls eye effect IF you countersunk
to the right depth. The reverse side looked like any other screw which had
been cut off and finished.

They've not been available for quite some time.
 
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What the Suppliers are selling as the Loveless Bolt's aren't what Loveless himself uses. The Suppliers have to have the bolts and nuts made for them. Unfortunately, they aren't off the shelf parts. Thats why they cost so much.

the bolts and nuts Bob uses was once an off the shelf item out where they are but are no longer available. And Jim, (Bobs Partner), says that they are running a Little low!

I have some original Loveless pieces here to have reproduced one day. (Withe the Loveless Shops permission. but you have to be dead on when grinding the handle down not to damage the nut and washer. They have a depth chart for all the different models of Loveless knives, worked out over the years, as to how deep to sink the washers. Gives a grinding depth indicator in practice. Makes the Loveless Shape very repeatable. It would make life a lot easier on me!!!

Oop's, never did answer your question. The bolts are either brass and stainless or stainless and stainless in the Loveless Shop. Those sold by the suppliers are brass on brass, Nickle silver on nickle silver, or Stainless on stainless. They also have brass nuts and stainless screws available.

Mike
 
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What the Suppliers are selling as the Loveless Bolt's aren't what Loveless himself uses. The Suppliers have to have the bolts and nuts made for them. Unfortunately, they aren't off the shelf parts. Thats why they cost so much.

the bolts and nuts Bob uses was once an off the shelf item out where they are but are no longer available. And Jim, (Bobs Partner), says that they are running a Little low!

I have some original Loveless pieces here to have reproduced one day. (Withe the Loveless Shops permission. but you have to be dead on when grinding the handle down not to damage the nut and washer. They have a depth chart for all the different models of Loveless knives, worked out over the years, as to how deep to sink the washers. Gives a grinding depth indicator in practice. Makes the Loveless Shape very repeatable. It would make life a lot easier on me!!!

Oop's, never did answer your question. The bolts are either brass and stainless or stainless and stainless in the Loveless Shop. Those sold by the suppliers are brass on brass, Nickle silver on nickle silver, or Stainless on stainless. They also have brass nuts and stainless screws available.

Mike


Mike do they use washers under the nuts at the Loveless shop?
 
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