Loveless Style Chute Knife in Sambar Stag

TK Steingass

TK Steingass

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Greetings All:

Just got the photos from Coop and they were excellent - I hope you like them!

OAL 9 1/2"
Blade 4 3/4"
3/16" CPM-154CM stock
Mirror finish grinds
Satin flats
Sambar stag scales
Red liners on tapered tang
416 stainless furniture



 
Great images of a Classic.
3rd or 4th time Ive been back to look at those grinds.
..and the Stag.

Doug
 
Does anyone want to know what I think?:D

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I really like this, good to see some realistic Stag for a change! Congratulations, STeven, well done.
 
The Virginian said:
Of course we do!

From the big grin, can we take it that you are the "commissioner" of this piece?
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No, I'm not Ken....the smilie was because people don't usually want to take the bad with the good.

The good:
1. Nice piece of stag, well sculpted
2. Nice taper to the tang, real nice
3. Clean fit, and mirror polish.

The bad:
1. That grind is OFF....the clip grind is way too deep into width of the blade, and the primary grind is too shallow....it should be reversed. The grind for the primary should be higher, the clip less so. Think about the centerline of the blade...it's damned difficult on Loveless grinds to do, but you can spot it when it is off a mile away.

I'm real surprised that Dave or Kevin didn't say anything, they know better.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Interpretation not duplicate, I get it but it's OK. Most important to me the guard looks "right".
 
I am afraid that Steven's honest appaisal is right on target as usual. The stag is as nice as I have ever seen. Kumbaya.
 
Kohai999 said:
No, I'm not Ken....the smilie was because people don't usually want to take the bad with the good.

The good:
1. Nice piece of stag, well sculpted
2. Nice taper to the tang, real nice
3. Clean fit, and mirror polish.

The bad:
1. That grind is OFF....the clip grind is way too deep into width of the blade, and the primary grind is too shallow....it should be reversed. The grind for the primary should be higher, the clip less so. Think about the centerline of the blade...it's damned difficult on Loveless grinds to do, but you can spot it when it is off a mile away.

I'm real surprised that Dave or Kevin didn't say anything, they know better.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Yes, I noticed, it's way deep, but I still like the knife very much.
We differ in that you hold the maker strictly to the original Loveless design(certainly nothing wrong with that), I often appreciate (as here) and grant latitude for the maker's own rendition.
 
Kohai999 said:
No, I'm not Ken....the smilie was because people don't usually want to take the bad with the good.

The good:
1. Nice piece of stag, well sculpted
2. Nice taper to the tang, real nice
3. Clean fit, and mirror polish.

The bad:
1. That grind is OFF....the clip grind is way too deep into width of the blade, and the primary grind is too shallow....it should be reversed. The grind for the primary should be higher, the clip less so. Think about the centerline of the blade...it's damned difficult on Loveless grinds to do, but you can spot it when it is off a mile away.

I'm real surprised that Dave or Kevin didn't say anything, they know better.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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STeven:

Thank you for your honest feedback. I will take your input on the grinds into consideration. BTW, this is strictly my interpretation of the original - from start to finish.......never had the privilege of working in Loveless' shop or sharing his patterns.
 
Kohai999 said:
Does anyone want to know what I think?:D

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Affirmative.
Always.

Kohai999 said:
1. That grind is OFF....the clip grind is way too deep into width of the blade, and the primary grind is too shallow....it should be reversed. The grind for the primary should be higher, the clip less so. Think about the centerline of the blade...it's damned difficult on Loveless grinds to do, but you can spot it when it is off a mile away.
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Thanks for the education, STeven.
What i get from the Loveless discussions is it's Purists vs. Others.

Great images of a great knife, Mr. Steingass !

Doug
 
TK Steingass said:
STeven:

Thank you for your honest feedback. I will take your input on the grinds into consideration. BTW, this is strictly my interpretation of the original - from start to finish.......never had the privilege of working in Loveless' shop or sharing his patterns.
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Last I heard, Jim Merritt was still sharing Loveless templates and advice with makers who were polite and respectful in their approach. This was a tradition started by R.W. Loveless years ago.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
Last I heard, Jim Merritt was still sharing Loveless templates and advice with makers who were polite and respectful in their approach. This was a tradition started by R.W. Loveless years ago.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Over the past years I had contacted a few of the makers that have Loveless patterns with no success - some were very nice in their refusal - a few of them got downright rude in their refusal. One of them told me: "Go buy a book." MY PERSONAL experience is that the sharing of Loveless patterns generate lots of angst and hard feelings......I'm not into that. I do this for the pleasure of creating a gorgeous knife. I have since decided that I was going to do my own interpretations - I will not be contacting Jim Merritt. To those of you out there that have Loveless patterns, more power to you and best of luck. :)

Out of curiosity - are the originals as highly tapered in the tang as my rendition?
 
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