Lum Fixed Blade??

[tonyccw]

From past experience, as you can tell from my collection, that is the type of sheath Bob usually sends with his knife. I'll see if I can dig some up and post them. Sal may have simply wanted to keep the "Lum" package as close to the original as he can. Only Sal can answer that. But, if you really don't like it, let Sal know. I suspect he has them made to order based on production batches. Who knows, if you guys whine enough, then we could see a Tactical version with a kydex sheath.

On some of my Lum, I've had kydex sheaths made up for less than $40 and a 2 week turn around. Besides, there are lots more kydex makers out there that needs work....

 

[Mike990]

I am sure the fact that custom Lums have this type of sheath (which again leaves me asking why) might have influenced Sal. But at the very least it needed something along the lines of the minimalist black pouch sheath Chris Reeve uses on some of his one piece line. That with a couple of eyelet's placed properly would have allowed a person to make a IWB belt loop out of black paracord. Still not ideal but even hanging on the leather belt loop vertical it would have been much lower profile. As I understand this is only a 4 inch blade. Look at the various sheaths Bob Dozier uses with his Arkansas Toothpick model. Its only a half inch shorter blade wise.

Of course we can have a kydex made to order, or great leather made to order by many talented folks that are forum members, but why should we always always always have to. That's not a slam on just sypderco but the whole knife industry. Maybe it should not, but it has a good deal of bearing on what I choose to buy, unless the knife is really the be all to end all.

 

[tonyccw]

Originally posted by Mike990
But at the very least it needed something along the lines of the minimalist black pouch sheath Chris Reeve uses on some of his one piece line.

You should see the ones for the shorter blades; they're not that minimalistic. And there's a reason why Chris choose to make his sheath the way he does. Let just say you will not be able to get a pouch sheath for a Shadow IV. The truth of the matter is Bob isn't known for his sheaths, but by the same token, they work, and most of the time, they're free.

That's not a slam on just sypderco but the whole knife industry. Maybe it should not, but it has a good deal of bearing on what I choose to buy, unless the knife is really the be all to end all.

No knife is the be all and end all. Look, you're entitled to your opinion about the sheath, and because it is your money, if you buy it, you're entitled to how you would prefer to carry it. But as a manufacturer, I think Sal made a pretty good choice in making the sheath the way it is. Because as it stands, one of the reasons you will want to buy this knife is because you don't want to shell out the type of money, and put up with the wait, for a real Lum custom. If you like the knife, the sheath is incidental. The fact that you will have to buy/make a new one may be significant to you, but no to Sal. He's targeting what he feels is the majority audience, and it just so happen you're not it. One day you will find a company that follows your philosphy and make knives the way you want them. Just not today. Where would the custom industry be if that happened?

 

[Burke]

I really like the blade shape and the handle on this knife. Regarding the sheath, it would not surprise me to see it go the same way as the Moran sheath...when that was introduced, it had a clunky (though effective) leather sheath, and when the second generation version came out, it had a kydex sheath. About a "lower profile" sheath, I think a leather sheath tends to result in less of a "weapon" appearance than tactical black kydex, so while leather might be more visible, I think it tends to portray the knife as a tool more than a weapon to many people.

 

[Parker]

Tony, I appreciate that Bob Lum tends to send that kind of sheath. I ask, why?

As for it being free wit the knife, I doubt that, not muchnis fre in this world, particularly in light of beig handmade very likely in the case of the custom. a very nice Sigman (nix the idea of the very thick Blade Tec Kydex and IWB loop, the Sigman version is much ligter and easier to deal with daily) with nylon loop that circles the belt is is about the slickest rig for a blade this size I have ever seen and very comfy (Frank, I have at least three kives I gotta shoot your way if you are out there, four when I buy one of these!)

It is a weapon, a tanto point this size has very little other application. Its made of the right materials for daily carry and wear/tear, but then it has this sheath? I am not of the mind to wait for second generation, that is silly. I am sure the cost of stamping these out is part of the reason and for biz reasons I respect that, but it is not a a hunting knife, it is meant for daily use and the once or twice a life-time nasty social meeting, or at the design prints that way anyhow.

My Mad Dogs and any other personal carry knives are carried in Kydex exclusively (only exception is Randall Fireman), and for daily wear I really do not care for anything less. It does not corrode nor stain clothing like leather, and also does a better job of protecting ME than leather. will have to have the Sigman made when I buy one of these, and maybe will have the handle blasted at the same time if it is too slick. Overall a very nice looking blade, function hand in hand with form.

Anyone want a spare leather sheath? I will have one soon....\

When do they ship?

Owl, can you by any chance scan me a copy of that catalog?

Parker

 

[Firebat]

Anyone see the "News" page over at Knifecenter.com?

They're expecting the Lum fixed blade soon- cool.

Also, they mention a blue handled Lum folder? Any care to enlighten me? Which one? The Chinese folder?

Firebat

 

[tonyccw]

Originally posted by Parker
Tony, I appreciate that Bob Lum tends to send that kind of sheath. I ask, why?

That's what he makes. Again, he's not known to be great sheath maker.

As for it being free wit the knife, I doubt that, not muchnis fre in this world, particularly in light of beig handmade very likely in the case of the custom.?

I know I don't pay for them. When we talk prices it's always for the knife, alone. But when I receive it, I get it in a sheath. Plus in the 2 years I've been helping Bob sell knives at the East Coast Custom Knife show, he's never charged for one, or discounted for a lack of a sheath. Always offered to make one up as long as the customer is willing to wait a few weeks for him to send it to him. Since he doesn't make kydex, he usually send it out to be made, and bills the customer what he was charged. In my books, that's free.

It is a weapon, a tanto point this size has very little other application. ....but it is not a a hunting knife

Yeah, unfortunately Bob is, and his knife carrying style comes from that. As for the blade, the near-straight edge is extremely useful for everyday cutting chores. Yes, that's an amour piercing point, but it's still usable as a utility knife, as with any other tantos (folding ofr otherwise) out there.

Anyone want a spare leather sheath? I will have one soon....\

If you're offering, I'll take it. It'll fit my customs as well.

When do they ship?

They're shipped from the factory (see post with link for the pic). Sal said he should get the first 400 within the next few weeks.

Owl, can you by any chance scan me a copy of that catalog?
Parker

FYI, the Temple Guard and the Envoy were custom pieces that was delivered without sheaths to NWCutlery.

 

[tonyccw]

Originally posted by Firebat
They're expecting the Lum fixed blade soon- cool.
Also, they mention a blue handled Lum folder? Any care to enlighten me? Which one? The Chinese folder?
Firebat

Yes the Chinese folder in the blue-grey handle. Someone else on the forum posted a pic. They were part of an order for Boker, around 700 pieces, and now, they're making their way to the US. I'm expecting 2 in the mail soon.

Edited for claification.