Lumbersexuality- an interesting article

[Liberatus1]

Why is everybody talking about fashion and politics. I've got an internet of content that knows clothes, lifestyles and policy a lot better than any of us do. What we do well here is talk about axes. I probably should of avoided this post.

 

[Creek_Stomper]

why typical dressing style hasn't changed a lot in a very long time. everything comes around and around. now i'm a hipster? in five years, i might be considered a hippy woods guy. in five more years, who know, it might even be considered classic. then it'll be back to working class guy again.

There's a lot of truth here.

I'll say this. If you actually see a dude who dresses this way, and carries around an axe just to pose with, then by all means give him a ribbing for the axe part. It's silly. But otherwise we're saying a style represents something specific, when in reality it isn't that formulaic. I know a pastor who sports a big, gnarly beard and tattoos, and a tattoo artist who wears a suit and tie every day he's in the shop. Style isn't exclusive.

Back to my point: I doubt there are many people sporting axes to bolster their man-cred. I think most of these pictures we're seeing are stock photography and staged shoots for commercial purposes.

 

[Square_peg]

why typical dressing style hasn't changed a lot in a very long time. everything comes around and around. now i'm a hipster? in five years, i might be considered a hippy woods guy. in five more years, who know, it might even be considered classic. then it'll be back to working class guy again.

Yeah, jeans and flannel have been a traditional Northwest look for a hundred years. When they gained wider popularity in the 1990's it was called the grunge look. Now it's called the hipster lumbersexual look. The only thing that changed was the label.

The bottom line is that it's practical garb for the NW environment and for some other places as well. Some people are wearing it just for the practicality - not to make some fashion statement. The hipsters will be wearing something else next year. And those of us who spend time outdoors will keep wearing it for another hundred years.

 

[Rhinoknives1]

I will try not to make this a political diatribe. These things are a direct manifestation of the decline of the American way of life. Our morals and our very values have been under attack since FDR, and have increased by an order of magnitude in the last 6 years – I’ll leave it to you to figure out why. Every day there is a new outrage and it seems that nothing is sacred any longer - whether it’s a youngster told to turn his American flag T-shirt inside out out of fear of offending Muslims or Mexican kids, a kid getting expelled for biting his Pop Tart into the shape of a gun, or a refusal to call terrorism what it is. The deterioration of the family unit is directly responsible. Kids are being raised in fractured families or by a single parent and are taught that everyone wins. Trophies are given just for participation, which teaches them that exceptional achievement is no longer desirable – why try to excel when they will be rewarded for mediocre performance? This has led to a sense of entitlement and is directly responsible for the conversion of America into a welfare State. Success is frowned upon and even despised. The decline in quality education has lead to a generation of illiterate kids who do not know how to think for themselves. Critical thinking is no longer taught. Just look at ASU. This “university” has remedial courses which try to re-teach youngsters what they failed to learn in our public indoctrination centers… sorry, public schools, but the curriculums are laughable - pathetic really. The attack on our Judeo-Christian values, the unwillingness of the silent majority to stand for what’s true and right out of fear of being labeled or attacked have all contributed to our decline. America was just rated 12th in a list of nations in regard to financial freedom - 12th! We have the highest corporate tax rate in the world, political correctness is out of control, tax and spend, facebook now has upwards of 50 terms to choose from to describe your sex – apparently, male/female is no longer an adequate descriptor, etc… etc… These are just a few (a very few) of the issues we are facing as a nation, and this “metrosexual,” “lumbersexual,” and any other …sexual term you can think of are just a few of the symptoms we’re seeing as a result of a nation in decline.

So A Lumber sexual has sex with Lumber? I've used Lumber as a building martial and an art medium but I didn't know that some fornicate with it? Strange?

I guess you learn something everyday!:barf:

 

[Bladite]

Why is everybody talking about fashion and politics. I've got an internet of content that knows clothes, lifestyles and policy a lot better than any of us do. What we do well here is talk about axes. I probably should of avoided this post.

we're merely axing poetical, lodging a few mild complaints, while we gentle strop our axes goodnite, so we can shave our [hope] chests in the morning, and perhaps also do some miter cuts as well

dang, i need a dado axe

 

[der_vincent]

Hey my american friends,

I live in Northern Germany and have read that gearjunkie article too...
Here in Germany we have a cetury-old Tradition of forestry and logging, mainly beech tree and maple.

Me, being a man of age 45, have been cutting trees with chainsaw and also axe (earlier in my youth) for the last 30 years, and then pulling it out of the forest with an prehistoric single-cylinder tractor. Man, i have always loved this work, being in the forest. Learned the whole work from my dad.

Now, i read this about lumbersexuality. Somehow funny, somehow cool. First Thing that i thought when reading the gearjunki article 3 weeks ago was: hey, they look like Grunge and Kurt Cobain.
Second thought was: hey, i am pretty up-to-date ;-) with my YouTube Clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtL1ANGhSDY (recorded in June 2014, bevor that Hype)

Cheers )) Vincent

 

[High_Noon]

High_noon .... I couldn't possibly agree more.

cityofthesouth: thank you. I am happy you agree.

Yes, like Bladeite said, Lumbersexuals are funny, and this and other fashion trends are also funny, but looking at this phenomena from a different perspective just makes me sad. Why does it make me sad? I believe Chignecto Woodsman hit the nail on the head when he said:

"much of this is a reaction to years of certain political groups trying to strip away male identity (basically making people feel ashamed for being men), and now that males have no identity they have to latch onto the appearance of being men because they no longer know what it really means."

This is exactly correct and is closely linked to the fractured family/single parent problem I mentioned in my original post. Generations of males have been raised without a strong male influence in their lives and as a result, many have resorted to crime, ill treatment of others - including women - and they don't understand what it means to be a man. They don't understand that real men put others before themselves, that real men are not concerned with societal stereotypes (such as this Lumbersexual phenomena), that real men admit their mistakes, hold themselves accountable and are willing to make the extreme effort it takes in order to get what they want out of life. They don't understand that they are responsible for their own lives and their own situations - no one else - but they cannot seem to take responsibility for their own actions - it's always the fault of someone else. We now live in a society where simply approaching a woman can be deemed as sexual harassment. What is a man to do? In my humble opinion, just be yourself, do what is right, take responsibility and don't bow to societal pressure.

And Rhinoknives1: I don't believe I said anything about fornicating with lumber, but I'm sure it's probably been done by some of the more challenged and confused in our society. Well... I did see a particularly fetching, young Burr Oak the other day...

 

[Unicorn161]

This. A thousand times, this. I get called a hipster all the time because of the way I dress. I wear what I wear because I find it comfortable and stylish. I don't see it any different than when someone wears camo on any occasion they aren't hunting, which is all the time for plenty of people that bemoan "hipsters" wearing things because of trendiness. Camo and carhartt's are trendy in some circles. Just not mine.

I wear slim-fit jeans because they are more comfortable for me. I'm a slim guy and I feel like I'm swimming in anything else.
I wear plaid flannel because I need something warm about that's the design it comes in.
I DO wear suspenders, because they work better for me than a belt.
And once in awhile you'll see me carrying an axe while wearing all of this. Not because I'm some sort of empty shell searching for meaning. But because my dad taught me a couple bucks was worth spending to turn someone's trash into a treasure.

But to Hell with all that, I'm a hipster because what you can see fits into a category you're comfortable with, something you have a word for. Doesn't matter at all who I actually am as a person.

American society demands everyone be put into a neat little category. It's disgusting.

Or you could just accept that you're one of the few that does what you do because it's what you want to. The exception that proves the rule. Most of the people wearing this crap do it because it's the current trend. Because they want to look "manly," and tough.

 

[Creek_Stomper]

Or you could just accept that you're one of the few that does what you do because it's what you want to. The exception that proves the rule. Most of the people wearing this crap do it because it's the current trend. Because they want to look "manly," and tough.

Why, if that's not the case with me, would I assume that's the case with anyone else? Not since high school have I personally known anyone who wore something merely for trend rather than because they personally thought it was cool and comfortable.

 

[chuxwan]

When I was in school I wore different things on purpose. I was trying to express the differences I felt between myself and my peers. As time goes on, I've cared less and less what others have to think or say about my appearance. I wear what's comfortable. Some days, that's a flannel and jeans. Some days, it's a flannel and leggings. My father taught me that being a man isn't about being concerned with what insecure males think of you. People think it's weird for a man to wear tight-fitting stretchy pants. I think it's weird to wear the same thing everyone else wears for no reason other than being too frightened and impotent to make decisions for yourself about what's comfortable. I have been called lumbersexual as well as hipster countless times, usually by people who are wearing the uniform of some trend or another. It doesn't bother me anymore, just like it doesn't bother me when people gaze at my wild hair. I will cut it when I damn well please.

 

[Chignecto Woodsman]

cityofthesouth: thank you. I am happy you agree.

Yes, like Bladeite said, Lumbersexuals are funny, and this and other fashion trends are also funny, but looking at this phenomena from a different perspective just makes me sad. Why does it make me sad? I believe Chignecto Woodsman hit the nail on the head when he said:

"much of this is a reaction to years of certain political groups trying to strip away male identity (basically making people feel ashamed for being men), and now that males have no identity they have to latch onto the appearance of being men because they no longer know what it really means."

This is exactly correct and is closely linked to the fractured family/single parent problem I mentioned in my original post. Generations of males have been raised without a strong male influence in their lives and as a result, many have resorted to crime, ill treatment of others - including women - and they don't understand what it means to be a man. They don't understand that real men put others before themselves, that real men are not concerned with societal stereotypes (such as this Lumbersexual phenomena), that real men admit their mistakes, hold themselves accountable and are willing to make the extreme effort it takes in order to get what they want out of life. They don't understand that they are responsible for their own lives and their own situations - no one else - but they cannot seem to take responsibility for their own actions - it's always the fault of someone else. We now live in a society where simply approaching a woman can be deemed as sexual harassment. What is a man to do? In my humble opinion, just be yourself, do what is right, take responsibility and don't bow to societal pressure.

And Rhinoknives1: I don't believe I said anything about fornicating with lumber, but I'm sure it's probably been done by some of the more challenged and confused in our society. Well... I did see a particularly fetching, young Burr Oak the other day...

Isn't this what American Sniper is about? It's basically the story of a man in a time of war and his trying to live and do the best he can, but everyone has made it out to be this political debate or propaganda film, either for or against war or how dangerous men can be. It's not really for or against the war, just focusing on one man's way of getting through it. He is clearly struggling himself with what is right and wrong, and the very start of the film suggests that a man must confront good and evil, or be a sheepdog as the father has it. The whole ordeal takes its toll on him and he has a hard time in the end even seeing what he had set out to do with his wife, almost forgetting her, or forgetting his role as the man of the family.

In the future I think the political attack on men will be a huge aspect of history books.

 

[Kentucky]

People should stop worrying about what other folks think of them and for gods sake why should anyone care what you wear.. Never understood that..Of course I live in a very rural are of Appalachia and most men here tend not to think about those things Im a jeans, tee shirt and work boot kind of guy. I was in grade school, high school,college and still am..I do have a big beard but come by it honest..I do think its a bit funny to dress like another to make yourself feel more manly..If you feel "un" manly then you have issues that cloths are not going to fix
Ive never understood how some can be so uncomfortable in their own skin.

 

[300Six]

It's pretty easy to distinguish between someone wearing old-fashioned outdoor clothing to make a fashion statement, and someone who has genuinely worn and faded his own similar attire through physical work and comfortable wear.
Sort of like watching a greenhorn parading around on a construction site with new boots, apron and hammer. Might serve to impress the young ladies on a transit bus but not the job foreman nor the seasoned guys he has to work with.

 

[High_Noon]

Isn't this what American Sniper is about? ... In the future I think the political attack on men will be a huge aspect of history books.

I have not seen American Sniper yet. You could certainly be correct regarding political attacks on men being a prominent feature in future history books - provided our progressive "friends" don't rewrite history as they are currently.

 

[Square_peg]

Can we get off the politics already?

 

[The cow]

I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm always a little wary of someone who appears to take too much time in their appearance.
Interesting article since they take a broader stance on the term than I'd expected. I wouldn't consider Ryan Gosling to be one. Thats just some dude dressed casually. That said, you don't get too much of that around my area.

 

[The cow]

I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm always a little wary of someone who appears to take too much time in their appearance.
Interesting article since they take a broader stance on the term than I'd expected. I wouldn't consider Ryan Gosling to be one. Thats just some dude dressed casually. That said, you don't get too much of that around my area.