m1 garand rebuild

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KaBar

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im pretty much lost with this gun, its a april 1943 springfield armory m1 garand with the correct bolt and trigger group but the barrel was rebarreled in 53 for the korean war. i hate to mess up such a historical gun but the barrels muzzle is worn because its been cleaned so many times, even though its got a worn muzzle its still shooting a 2-2.5 inch group at 100 yards but its not going to be any good at a 600 yard match.

i nearly baught a 1941 garand today that was rebarreled in 1943 but never reissued for 1000. the gun was mint but the only reasion that i wanted it was because it had the correct barrel with no mw or te. it would have been a killer parts gun for my 43 but it got sold out from under me this morning.

what im looking for is any kind of garand forums that can lead me in to what direction to take as far as rebuilding goes. im stuck between dgr(http://www.dgrguns.com/) and national match armory(http://nationalmatcharmory.com/).the dgr is probably going to end up in the 1300 buck range and the NM is going to be in the 3000-4000 range.

does anybody on here know any people that have sites that do garand rebuilds, im interested in seeing my other options.
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Oh man! That was cruel and unusual, What a fantastic rifle :eek: Chances of me ever owning one...a big fat Zero :grumpy:
 
KaBar said:
...its still shooting a 2-2.5 inch group at 100 yards...
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That would be good accuracy for a modern, off-the-shelf bolt action sporting rifle. For a 60-year old SLR, it's spectacular.

You could throw lots of money at it, but I respectfully suggest that a cost/benefit analysis is in order.

maximus otter
 
i could always buy another to shoot but shooting another garand in a competition just feels funny to me, i guss im suffering from "this is my m1 garand, theres many like it, but this ones mine"

i could pick up a NM rifle at a local dealer for 1100 and use mine as a plinker but it just dosent feel right. my guns been threw 2 wars that i know of, maby even 3 and now that its in my hands any other garand just aint "my garand" hell, yesterday i was going to buy a thousand dollar 41 that was in better shape than mine to use for parts, now thats love.

eather way you cut it, even if i spend 3000 on this gun it will adventually be worth it monetary wise. if any body turns a profit on it it will be my kids long after im dead and gone.
 
I've been there and done that. Nice M1 by the way. You could always sell it to me... :D I got my M1 from the former DCM and proceeded to have it rebuilt for high power competition. Mine was a WWII era rifle with near perfect bore. These things fetch pretty high prices now. It would be better for you to keep it as is, or sell it as a "collectible" than to rebuild the rifle. If you want to shoot high power, go with the AR15 or M1A. Better choices as proven by current match records and you won't be ruining a nice vintage rifle.

JMHO. I ended up selling mine... :grumpy: ..to build a custom 1911A1 before semi-custom 1911's were commonly available for sale on the market. Mine would have sold for far more had I not had it rebuilt for competitive use. I'd love to get another M1. After all, I've got a .50cal. can of M2 ball on clips in the basement...lol.

Jeff
 
ive got that book in the last link, verry little usefull info imho :( i whish i would have baught all the garand books at the last gun show but hind site is 20-20.

me and a buddy took it out again today, on the way to my land i found a surplus store with a bunch of new garand clips for a buck each. needless to say i loaded down :p

so what was the deal with dcm? were they actual usgis or the cast recievers like springfield armory?

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Nice rifle. And nice muzzle blast at the end of that first video.
Does anyone else think he looks a bit russell crowish in that last pic? ;)
 
BUD BUNDY IN THE HOUSE!!! :D

Nice Garand. I have been wanting to get one for a while now. Unfortunately I have funds allocated for other projects (house, wife, kids). Someday soon though.

Godd luck with it. :D
 
why not get a cmp garand? you have to jump threw a few hoopes but there about half the price as the ones you will find in a gun shop. the deal with these guns is that you have to be in a affiliated club, shoot in a match or have life fire training, and all the other checks that go about with buying a gun. the best thing is that once you qualify they ship it directly to hour house no ffl needed.
http://www.odcmp.com/

you can get them any where from 265 bucks (less wood) to 1400 bucks for a collectors grade. the best deal right now is the 550 greek service grade guns.
 
The M1 Garand is my favorite rifel, hence the "m1" portion of my screen name. I have built a few and my last Garand would average under moa @ 100 with Fed GM 168 gr. Here are some tips that can all be done by you and all are pretty simple. Lemme know if you need any thing explained in detail.

The heart of any rifle is the barrel IMHO. That should be the first step. Good crown and a fairly tight chamber help. In your case, have it recrowned by a reputable 'smith. You wont be able to hardly tell it was done by looking at it. I have played the garand game for awhile and these are some things I do to make them shoot "better" and can be done by you at home.
*Make sure the trigger group locks up tightly. Should have resistance at about an inch before lock up. If this is not the case, use shim stock under the heel of the reciever. If the rec. has any side to side play, use shims between the stock and rec. legs.
*center the gas cylinder so that it is not touching the barrel with the rear ring. You may have to peen the barrel splines or again use thin shims. Have the gas cylinder far enough forward so the GC lock gets tight at about 4 o'clock when viewing from the front. Should be snug when you line it up.
*unitize the front handguard with the rear ferrule so it does not move. Use glue or two sheet metal screws.
*make sure the oprod tracks right with no binding. you may have to move the GC to achieve a good fit. oprod piston should mic @ .525 or so IIRC. Get a new oprod spring. cheap and worth it.
*a good clean trigger helps, but you may need someone to clean it up for you depending on how comfortable you are with that kind of stuff.
*I would use a good 168-175gr match load. Be careful with this as too hot a load WILL bend an oprod or worse. I hear and see people using heavy loads in a Garand and quickly move down the line. Some say it's ok, but I have seen what happens when a bolt lug breaks. This is my opinion and your mileage may vary. *NOTE* make sure all your primers are seated at or below flush with the case head. High primers can = bad stuff. IMR 4895 is a great powder for the Garand.
These are a few things you can do at home with very little cost and time involved. The goal is a good, tight rifle. Or you can skip all this and send the gun to Fulton Armory and get it all wizzed up.
HTH, Aaron/m1marty
 
KaBar:

"so what was the deal with dcm? were they actual usgis or the cast recievers like springfield armory?"

The DCM evolved into the CMP. DCM rifles were USGI. Mine was a Springfield with WWII date. CMP rifles are also USGI.

Jeff
 
i found some new "toys" today. the other day i noticed these but dint pay to much attention, turns out they were origional 1944 m1 garand gernade sights :D
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also, while talking to a buddy who always gives me good deals he told me that he had a winter trigger and winter saftey for his garand. ive seen the trigers but never seen the saftey before. these will be good for me because where i hunt it gets COLD and im quite tired of freezing my fingers off.
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to boot, he knows that i wanted to shoot mine at long distance matches and that my barrels not up to par for something like 600+ yards so he told me that he would sell me his 1941 garand for 600 bucks. he had it set up for match shooting and its just had a new match barrel installed. i cant wait until tommarow. :D
 
shes a 1941 garand with locking rear sight and a match grade barrel ;) i also picked up a origional paratrooper garand case, a winter trigger, a winter saftey, a garand parts kit, 1000 rounds of ammo including tracers, armor pearising rounds, and anti aircraft fragmentory rounds :D he also threw in a origional 1911 dated m1905 cutdown (also known as m1 bayonet) and a banderlear full of m2 ball ammo. :cool: you should have seen the look of our coworkers while we were striken the deal this morning

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KaBar, kind of Off Topic, but what brand of sunglasses are those? My bro just got some given to him, and they look just like yours. Are your real glass? Do the arms hook right around you ears? Thanks man. Nice guns too, btw.
 
thats a buddy of mine, im behind the cam. hes telling me that there raybans from the 80s
 
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