MacGyver = classic survival

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I just got seasons 1-3 on dvd for christmas and its great watching all the old episodes again. It's a good show to watch if you like survival in any situation. Even though it may not always be the most realistic its still one of my favorite shows ever. I just watched one on season 2 called "final approach" where there was lots of wilderness stuff. fending off a cougar, getting a rattlesnake out of a sleeping bag, making shelter and fire. :thumbup:

and he's deff the reason I got my first SAK which was my first knife ever!
 
Isn't that episode the one where he trained "at risk" kids? If so, that is the reason I wanted to do the same during my summers growing up and guiding trips.

Truly a classic survival show. If I remember correctly, Greg Davenport of simply survival.com was a technical advisor for the series. Greg was a USAF instructor and knows his trade well.

kev
 
I don't think I missed too many episodes of Macguyver when it was running. It was one of the few shows that my mom and I both enjoyed. I didn't really agee with the anti-gun message of the show, but it really promoted the "thinking outside of the box" mindset that can be so beneficial.

Chad
 
Love the show as well but HATED the fact that he always threw away any gun he came into contact with.

I was into Macgyver, the A-team and the Fall Guy (admittedly I didn't watch the fall guy for anything other than the blonde).

Charlie
 
I think that any action hero can pick up an ak-47 and go on a bad-guy killing spree, but doing it with household items is not only entertaining but classy. I agree with the anti-gun message because people like the ones on BF know how to use a gun safely and peacefully and this targets people who might not.
 
yeah anyone can just pick up a gun and shoot someone and thats the end of that. But that was the whole point of the show, the fact that he could get out of any situation by being creative and using just stuff laying around instead of guns. If you wanna watch gun blazing just turn on any other action show to get your fix.
 
yeah anyone can just pick up a gun and shoot someone and thats the end of that. But that was the whole point of the show, the fact that he could get out of any situation by being creative and using just stuff laying around instead of guns. If you wanna watch gun blazing just turn on any other action show to get your fix.

Didn't say I wanted to watch gun blazing (that was what the A-team was for), I just hated to see a perfectly good firearm be thrown in a lake, or a well, or the river, or wherever all the time. Just the collecter in me I guess. :eek:

Charlie
 
If killing people with firearms was as easy as you think, every time we have one of these "public shooter" incidents, the body count would be double digits every time. The kid in the mall? He should have been able to kill with at least 50% accuracy, one dies for every two shots fired. But it never seems to add up in the end that way...for a reason.

Please don't perpetuate the old anti-gun rhetoric. Sure, it's easier at times to kill with a firearm, that's a given, but they're not the death rays everyone thinks they are.

Further, there is nothing "classy" about blowing people up or burning them down. That's absurd. I'm sorry. The whole concept that putting a bullet into someone is barbaric but sending several high speed projectiles through them via a bomb, or setting their ass on fire is "classy" is simply thoughtless.

Before you get pissed and come back and flame me, carefully consider what I am saying.

Carefully consider the backwards-ass hollyweird message of the show.

A pistol has a set of sights on it, it is a discriminate weapon. You can aim it. The character on the show was CARELESS with a discriminate weapon that can be aimed.

An explosive device or an incendiary have no sights, except for a Claymore AP Mine, but they are basically indiscriminate weapons. My Dad's ancient WW2 Marine Corps Manual has a wonderful line about hand grenades, "Why are hand grenades dangerous?" Then: "Ans. Because they are always loaded, cocked and pointed at you." I always thought that a hand grenade was one of the most crazy weapons ever devised, it's sort of like the ballistic knife, I don't really like weapons that rely on a cotter pin for safety. 8-)

OK for boat propellers, not so good for small BOMBS!

The message of the show is, the hero is too ******* stupid and careless to use a discriminate weapon so he turns to BOMBS and FIREBOMBS, history's indiscriminate killers, for his tools. And, if that is not crazy enough for you, he doesn't use manufactured devices, but improvised devices from readily available chemicals, etc., which is not exactly a safe thing to do under ideal conditions.

I would be lying if I said there were not moments of the show that I found entertaining, amusing and sometimes informative. But, overall, I don't think the message of the show is intelligent then or now. That does not mean there are not moments of intelligence in episodes, it just means the whole storyline as to who he was and how he did things is a wash out for me because it's basically B.S. for the reasons I cited above.

I remember being about 16 years old and sitting at a neighbor's picnic table and having this EXACT same discussion with a really strange guy who was into Star Trek and Computers back when the TRS-80 was KING! He was so anti-gun, he just couldn't wrap his mind around what someone half his age was trying to tell him.

Anyway, here is to Heather Thomas coming out of the hot tub on THE FALL GUY, anyone that thinks Heather Locklear was hotter than Heather Thomas, well, Pearle Vision is having a sale my survivor friends. :D

And, lift a coffee mug to the A-Team, never have so many sexy stainless steel Ruger AC-556s been blazing at once with brass littering the air and ground with not so much as a speck of blood on the pavement!
 
Heather Locklear was so much hotter than Heather Thomas.
She also got to work with Captain Kirk instead of the bionic man. . .:D
Or maybe I'm just into women who bring their own handcuffs and nightstick to the party.

MacGyver was cool in that he could improvise, but even as a real youngin' when the show was out, I couldn't understand why he hated guns. I mean, I'm all for improvisation when necessary, but intentionally MAKING it necessary when a better tool was available just seemed stupid.
 
Well I still can't figure out how Steve Austin could run 60 m.p.h. with only one bionic leg :<
 
Carefully consider the backwards-ass hollyweird message of the show.

The show had no message. The purpose of the show was to sell commercial air time. Attributing some anti gun political message is nothing more than conspiratorial thinking. The show avoided gunplay by the good guy for novelty, after a long tradition of good guys who did use guns. Novelty draws an audience. Audience attracts advertisers. Makes money. End of story.

This novelty is the same thing that made successes of characters like Harry Callahan and Paul Kersey, who seemingly could fix any situation with a gun. If it draws an audience, Hollywood will go there.

Take MacGuyver for what it is. An amusing, if outlandish, 80s action/adventure TV show.

BTW, I haven't seen the show in decades. ISTR MacGuyver had a young African American boy sidekick who lived with him. How bizarre is that? Or does my memory fail me?
 
i have been a macguyver fan, since the show first came out..... it is a classic... a bit on the cheezy side, but still very entertaining...:D

i have the fist season on dvd... i need to get the others...
 
sending several high speed projectiles through them via a bomb, or setting their ass on fire is "classy" is simply thoughtless.

A pistol has a set of sights on it, it is a discriminate weapon. You can aim it. The character on the show was CARELESS with a discriminate weapon that can be aimed.

The message of the show is, the hero is too ******* stupid and careless to use a discriminate weapon so he turns to BOMBS and FIREBOMBS, history's indiscriminate killers, for his tools. And, if that is not crazy enough for you, he doesn't use manufactured devices, but improvised devices from readily available chemicals, etc., which is not exactly a safe thing to do under ideal conditions.
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Never once has he sent projectiles through people or lit their ass on fire, he might shoot something at someone, but never through, and he doesn't light people on fire...

and please tell me a show where they use cautious gun play. most of the shows their just running around spouting uzi's at everyone with out even aiming once. Now thats "classy"...

95% of the time he doesn't have any sort of weapon within he's reach which is why he improvises. Just in the last one "wish child" he makes it crystal clear why he doesn't use the gun he has as a shooting device, because he is locked in a steel room and says if he ties to shoot off the lock it will just bounce off and could ricochet and back at him. Instead he empties the powder from the cartridges in to some material cut from his shirt and stuffs it into the lock and lights it from a distance with a stick, effectively and safely blowing the lock.

I guess I posted this in the wrong forum, I thought this was the survival section, where people improvise with what things they have available around them and don't have to rely on firearms all the time. oh well
 
I grew up watching MacGuyver I have all 8 seasons on DVD...it could be worst I could be a star trek nut. The new shows I now collecting is NCIS and the Unit.
 
SHECKY - "The show had no message."


Yeah it did, Shecky. The show was blatently anti-guns.

Why do you think that Henry Winkler ("the Fonz"), who was co-creator and Exec. Producer of the show, was presented the "Man Of The Year Award," by Handgun Control Inc.?? Based on Winkler's show being more anti-guns than any other show on teeeveee.

Winkler accepted with great pride and stated his continuing effort to eventually ban guns.

Winkler is just another extreme left wing Hollywoodite, as are so very many of the "above-the-line" people in Hollywood.

L.W.
 
Scotty was the original MacGyver -- there wasn't anything he couldn't fix with a bottle of scotch, and he always fixed it by five 'til the end of the hour.
 
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