Machete discussion

They're 52100, differentially hardened with a 58RC edge. 17.5 inch blade, 23.5 overall and either .108 or .135 thick.

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I have the bottom one with the Redwood handles and it is by far my favorite machete I have and I like the kydex sheaths too.

My second favorite by another wide margin are the Fiddleback Forge machetes, which are made from Imacasa blanks with much nicer handles than the Condors have. I think the Condors are great value, but I'd rather pay a little extra for the better handles from Fiddleback.
 
Hey guys,

I forgot that I posted in this thread and just checked it out. PM me if you have any questions about ordering a machete and pricing. I still have more to make from this run.

As for the sheath, I've always preferred a sheath that could be carried in a variety of ways. I personally think the best way to carry a blade like this is baldric style and this sheath allows for that, or any other style of carry the user may be interested in. They are a pain to make and are very expensive with all the kydex and rivets involved but I think most customers appreciate that it comes with a quality sheath.
 
I prefer Kydex over most material for a sheath.
A few Fiddlebacks with Mashedcat Kydex and the No.1 North American Machete. I'm using it as a grab and go truck rig and so far loving it.
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not too long ago i got a Condor Golok. that thing is a monster! I got the leather sheath with it and i an glad that i did,that thing is sweet! trail blazing,chopping fire wood, messing up pressure treated fences, doing taxes......this thing is pretty versatile!
 
The Imacasa i rated as poor was from my results when putting a better than factory edge on them... they sharpen and take edges like cheap quality steel. I have an 18 and 12" Imacasa and when sharpening they act similar to a cheap machete that could be bought at Kmart. It's winter here and the last 2 or 3 weeks were single or -0 temps so there is no test cutting on weeds. I'm just going by what i experienced when trying to make them better. I have no brand loyalty and could care less who makes the blade. I do know Imacasa is the parent company of Condor and Condor is their premium line. Condor lists using 1075 steel and i doubt Imacasa uses the same.
I got my Condor Parang this week and here is my review of it....
Very nice leather sheath... same as the best leather sheaths that have an insert of leather between the 2 outer layers so that the blade can't cut through the stitching. The Barteaux+Sons(out of business since maybe 1970) are like this also. The sheath has 2 snaps on it and i'm not a fan of snaps but guess some things need them. It's easier to get the blade out than to get it back in because the nylon tabs that have the snaps get in the way putting the blade back in and if you put a razor edge on the blade you could be cutting the snap tabs off eventually. I paid 45.89 with free shipping on ebay and won't mention any sellers names since i'm not affiliated with any of them and some wanted 60$... you have to shop around. As for the Parang machete itself... looks to be quality construction and finish... nice smooth handle and rivets. The blade is about 1/4" thick... they say 6mm and 1/4 is about 6.35mm so i'll call it 1/4 and they do a "distall" taper so the blade edge is thinner than at the handle. This model is fairly thin width i guess because of the thickness and still feels like a heavy blade to swing arround. The handle widens very quick at the end to provide a widening grip to prevent slippage. The edge the Parang comes with is very good and most would leave it as it is but i will touch it up a little. It is sharp but i'm not sure if there is some clear laquer coating to keep the edge from rusting and if there is then that would keep the edge from feeling as sharp as it really is. My opinion of this Parang is.... Appearance quality and sheath quality A+, a little on the heavy side if you are going to swing for work... i would have gone with a slightly thinner blade thickness. This is my first Condor knife and judging by the finish and quality i felt safe in ordering 4 more Condor blades........ A Kukri, Thai Enep Machete(there is a shorter version), Cutlass Brush Machete, and Golok. I should have these by next weekend and will give my opinions. I don't claim to be an expert, but i have over 50 machetes now and have put a "better than factory edge" on almost every one, so i do have some experience in how the metal behaves during sharpening and as for usage... no i haven't taken each and every single machete out and chopped weeds with it for 12 hrs straight. A few dry swings and you can tell if it feels right and if you would want to actually use for a while. I still love the first long blade i bought in maybe 1990 which i have talked about earlier.... it's light, it's thin, it takes and keeps a heck of an edge, and is very easy to swing. I know some want to chop and a heavier blade works better, so this this is all personal preference and how it's going to be used. The Condor is 1075 steel... the Ontario is 1095, Cold Steel 1055, Marbles 1070.... it all depends on what you are using it for, As for an 18" machete you can get a Cold Steel for less than 20$, a Marbles for slightly over $20, an Ontario for about $30+ and a Condor for (with sheath) $60,,, the less than Condor are with out sheath but for 8.50 you could get a great CS sheath on ebay. If you have money to burn check out Miller Brothers Blades on you Tube but you're looking at 1000+ price tag and seems to me 5/16 thick would be hard to swing for any length of time. One responder mentioned Tops and when i see "tops" i think of old baseball cards but there is a line of higher end machetes if you want to spend over 100$. Esee is another close to 100$ model. It all depends on what you want to spend or if you want to cut or chop.
Marbles and Imacasa may be both made in El Salvador but a side by side visual and grinding will easily tell you these aren't the same quality... the Marbles look better and grind better for giving an edge.... maybe the same company but i can find no web search to verify that, but owning various models of both i will say the Marbles is definitely better than Imacasa in finish and metal used. This is all just my unknowing opinion and i welcome any discussion. THANKS to anyone who posts an opinion!
 
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For KalEl, son of JorEl....
what's the price of the second down machete on the wood pile... without the sheath?
 
I just found this website.... www.machetespecialists.com
They list a lot of brands... from a quick view i can see some models are cheaper on this site but some are cheaper on ebay. You really have to shop around and consider shipping. I mentioned i just bought 4 diff Condor machetes.... these were all from Ebay but i bought the 4 from 3 diff sellers that i have dealt with in the past. I went for the lowest price counting shipping which were all free in the 4 auctions.
 
Dasyuden..


Doing taxes with a machete??? HA HA maybe we should call R Rodriguez and after Machete Kills Again In Space the next sequel could be Machete Kills The IRS. HA HA
I should have my Condor Golok by the end of the week and it's the same thickness as the Parang but shorter so i think it my be a great tool/weapon to swing. I'll give my opinion after i get it but it seems to have a good outlook.
 
For me, it's hard to beat Ontario's 1095. I have the 12" Cutlass, and aside from it's reach (I have other, longer ones for those tasks), it's done everything I've asked it to do. I also have the original version of the Condor Golok. It's my base-camping chopper, although it's a bit heavy to hump deep into the woods.
 
Sqyrl--sorry, but you're dead wrong. Imacasa machetes are the exact same steel as the Marbles and Condor models. With the greatest respect, as a service provider I have personally ground edges on more machetes than you probably ever will in your lifetime. I'm talking many hundreds of machetes. Trust me on this stuff. :o
 
Imacasa has great products. I have a few and no complaints from me other than initial f&f. But I know they are quality and I like to put my own touches to it. They're very flexible however they don't bend or break. I've chopped trees with the imacasa sable. 28" and I've used it like an axe. Still perfect just some rust. I agree with FortyTwoBlades on all of it.
 
FortyTwoBlades / Baryonyx
I stand by my opinion and i don't respect your opinion since you are directly connected to selling Imacasa by the link on your profile. I may be new to sharpening machetes, but i have been sharpening other knives for over 15 yrs so i'm no amateur.
 
I recieved 4 Condor machetes over a week ago and here is what i think of them.
Condor Bush Cutlass...
Very nice black leather sheath! First impression is this looks like a toy cutllass....blade is about .095 thick the entire length which is 24". The width is about 1 1/4" the length of the blade. The D handle looks like a toy and is poorly designed... will take the skin off your 1st knuckle after a few swings. I'm going to remove the D part of the handle and after that the handle is still too small of a grip. I may apply a coating of Devcon Flexane to beef it up and then grind it down to a usable width. This really isn't a bad blade... great sheath and light weight for swinging, but not for whacking thick stuff... just light weeds or softer fiber stuff. The factory edge is good but not good enough for me and i'll make it better. Overall not a bad blade if you can redo the handle, but as is the D handle really sucks.
 
Condor Kukri
About the same length as the Cold Steel Kukri but heavier blade and about 3/8" thinner at the thickest part. The handle is smooth dark hard wood and i prefer the rubbery textured grip of the CS. Overall has a heavier feel than the CS and has a higher carbon steel than the CS. Very nice black leather sheath but my complaint is that the fold over tabs with snaps are conditioned to be folded over... i would prefer them to stick straight out until folded over to snap.... would be easier to get the blade back in without trying to get the tabs to move out of the way. The factory edge is good but i will make it better. Overall you can get 2 of the CS kikri's for the same price. I would go with the CS for the better grip and 1/2 the price.
 
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Condor Thai Enep
Shaped like a stretched out Kukri with a thinner blade with a 17 1/2 blade and 7" handle. The handle is smooth dark hard wood and could be used 2 handed.... looks great but i would prefer a rubbery textured feel. Great black leather sheath with 3 fold over tabs with snaps that get in the way when putting the blade abck into the sheath. The factory edge is good but i will make it better. Overall rating not a bad tool/weapon for the $50 i paid.
 
Condor Golok
14" heavy blade thinning at the end. Smooth hard wood handle with a bulbous end to keep from slipping out of your hand. A short tool/weapon with a nice feel. Simple very nice black leather sheath with no snaps... just in and out design. Good Factory edge that i will make sharper. Overall maybe my favorite Condor so far.
 
Condor Golok
14" heavy blade thinning at the end. Smooth hard wood handle with a bulbous end to keep from slipping out of your hand. A short tool/weapon with a nice feel. Simple very nice black leather sheath with no snaps... just in and out design. Good Factory edge that i will make sharper. Overall maybe my favorite Condor so far.

My favorite, as well. I love the fact that you can shape the wood handles to your preference. Can't do that with Cold Steel or Kabar.
 
FortyTwoBlades / Baryonyx
I stand by my opinion and i don't respect your opinion since you are directly connected to selling Imacasa by the link on your profile. I may be new to sharpening machetes, but i have been sharpening other knives for over 15 yrs so i'm no amateur.

You're right.
 
FortyTwoBlades / Baryonyx
I stand by my opinion and i don't respect your opinion since you are directly connected to selling Imacasa by the link on your profile. I may be new to sharpening machetes, but i have been sharpening other knives for over 15 yrs so i'm no amateur.


Well, now that we have that bit of unpleasantness out there, here is my take.

I have used CS machete's. The steel is a bit soft from my use.

FortyTwoBlades is a great resource for machete info. You discounting his opinion on machete's (telling him you don't respect his opinion, no less), and stating that the steel is inferior without using it on anything to test that theory out before making that sweeping statement speaks volumes.

FortyTwoBlades is nothing if not helpful to new and old members, and recommends knives that he sells, and others he does not carry.

I have never, in the years of seeing him post advice, felt he was giving bad advice, or trying to drum up business for him self. I've found his advice to be spot on.
 
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