MAD DOG - My own quick test

Cougar,

That is exactly why I used spruce 2X4's
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Nice test and pictures! (I need a digital camera!)

On the other hand: if a knife can't even chop pine, then what else will it chop? Pine is about the softest wood you can find in a 2x4 and all it takes is something with a higher RC than a wet noodle and you’re in business. Besides that the piece used didn't have any irregularities in it and was cut perpendicular to the grain structure. There was nothing which put any sort of lateral stress on the edge like the eyes of branches, sand, any kind of other dirt, or even a veering grain structure, which can twist the edge. Hardly a real world kind of test and for sure way below the league of a knife which is promoted as “SEAL compatible” and has opened car roofs without damage. I’ve cut harder wood (red wood roots with a lot of sand and little stones in it) with my P-ATAK and the only effect on the edge were little dings which disappeared after resharpening.

That's why I think that Mike's multi-media test showed a little bit better what a knife can (and should) do.
 
I agree that the test doesn't prove a WHOLE lot in that it was a different, possibly softer wood than that Mike Turber used. I have asked Mr. Turber to send me a sample of the very same wood that he used so I may test my ATAK on that.

However, I have tested this same knife by slamming the edge into a metal table leg like Mick Strider does to his ATS34 blades at knife shows. The table leg lost. The ATAK showed no sign of edge chipping or breakage, though it was probably in need of a steeling afterward.

As far as going out into the woods to find branches, no such luck. We don't even know what woods are here in Southern California.

Remember that Denny Hansen from SWAT Magazine along with a local PD (which unfortunately, I can't name due to departmental regulations) did successfully cut through a car roof (facilitated by banging on the spine with a baton) without any damage. If that's not tougher than chopping through a 2x4, spruce or not, I don't know what is. I would say that Hansen's demonstration is just as valid as Mr. Turber's.

Tim
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Hey Tim, I never saw that actual article, I just read the various responses to it. Do you have a copy of it you could forward to us? One thing that stuck out was that there was still a portion that could shave hair, etc. I'd just like to get more specifics, if possible.

As for the spruce, it's probably easier just to go to Home Depot or HQ and get it there, that's where we buy from. No need to spend $15 to UPS some $2 wood 2x4's across the country, IMHO.
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So now I need to go to the junk yard and get car roofs?

Just kidding
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Spruce is widely available at just about any hardware store. I live in Florida where the number one tree here is pine. I know a lot about pine and how soft it is. That is why I bought spruce. I did not want to have to chop through 10 boards to get the same results.

Again more facts.
The edge is admitedly 62-63 RC.
That is too hard for O-1, ask any maker, not me.
The edge chipped, PERIOD!


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