Made in China, would you bet your Life?

Again the proof is in the product>> I've yet to see a Chinese made knife that would match up with the quality that knives of other first world industrialized nations are currently producing. It's just that simple to me.


I agree. I have yet to find any kind of knife made in China that I would call real quality. I have even fel victim to breaking down and buying some of those made in China knives because they looked cool, but they could never hold up to any kind of hard use. They are best as a litter opener.
 
I brought a knife with me from China when I came to US 7 years ago. I used it to chop various stuff, vegetables, meats, and in many cases, bones....I use it everyday as I cook everyday, it was my all-purpose knife as it's the only knife I used in kitchen for years :D. It is still in my kitchen now. I never sharpen it, as it's still sharp for ordinary use. I will try to upload a pic of it sometime tonight.


I agree. I have yet to find any kind of knife made in China that I would call real quality. I have even fel victim to breaking down and buying some of those made in China knives because they looked cool, but they could never hold up to any kind of hard use. They are best as a litter opener.
 
China definitely has the ability to turn out better-quality, higher-end products. But they cater to what the Masses in America want.... namely, cheap and often times disposable products. Quality isn't demanded. Therefore, it takes a seat at the very back of the Made in China bus.
 
As one of the detractors, I guess I'll flesh out my objections to Chinese knives.

First of all, I have no doubt that the Chinese are capable of producing world class cutlery. It is not technologically difficult to come up with a decent steel and a decent design.

That said, I'd be very reluctant to be the first one on a Chinese mission to the moon or something that is the essence of high technology. They aren't there yet.

My objection to procuring Chinese knives, or products in general, has to do with the current nature of China itself. I somehow suspect that the nature of the Chinese government would scarcely change should communism soon be tossed. My objections to Chinese knives directly rest on a distaste for the governance of China, not of her people in general.

From the first European contact with China, the relationship has been hot and cold, mostly confusing, but it bears a constant--No matter who was in charge, China has been despotic for as long as she has been known to the West. In our turn, we have waxed poetic about her and reviled her and she us. Westerners have always had a complicated relationship with the Middle Kingdom.

These days it is really not all that complicated. You can bet your last dollar spent on a Chinese sourced knife that the cash will likely wind up under the control of the People's Liberation Army. Directly or indirectly, the PLA runs much of the manufacturing industry in China.

To say that the Chicom government and the US see eye to eye on anything would be naive. We have passing concerns of mutual economic self-interest, but wherever there is a push by the US internationally, regarding Iraq and the Middle East, Africa, Taiwan, North Korea, name it, there is a countervailing pull which emanates out of Bejing.

And by buying that Cara Cara or Vex, or any other conciously purchased Chinese products where an alternative exists, you undermine your own national security.

China the Superpower is not inevitable. Right now, only about 200 hundred million or so comrades get to even taste the fruits of prosperity. The other 1.1 billion people living there are largely a millstone around China's neck that she cannot rid herself of and cannot possibly elevate to a like standard of living.

AIDS pandemics are hushed. SARS was quarantined and allowed to burn itself out. Peasant uprisings happen all over the country but are ill-reported because finding out anything about what happens in the hinterland provinces is next to impossible to get out. Economic migration within China is illegal. Graft and corruption are rampant. The banking system in China is mostly a sham front for bureaucratic favoritism and Party palm greasing.

And you help finance that repressive fiasco with your choices if that is where you spend your money.

Some have said that no more consideration should be paid to a product than whether one is getting value for the money. I guess that equation works for the morally bankrupt.

Money is also considered to be a form of free speech in this country. How many people spend their dough speaks volumes about their values systems or lack thereof.
 
A few years ago, when I was still a ph.d. student, and old man visited my lab and we had a talk. I was a little bit surprised when he suddenly asked me: why don't you apply for being an American. I asked him why he said so and he said he thought it is not worth being a Chinese, as China manufactured everything but could not design anything, and US did not support much manufacturing industries now but could develop whatever he wanted to.

I don't have personal connection with the guy and I don't know where is he now. But I am very much curious what he would say about China now. China has changed a lot in the past 30 years. I would analog the present China in the world to the previous US 100 years ago. Both countries are similar in that economically they are uprising, powerful in manufacturing but not a leading country in fields like sciences and technologies yet. What is more, inside both countries there are many problems to solve, like treat part of their people unfairly. China will become better, as what US did. I hope we could look at China in a "developing" or "dynamic" way.
 
It will be along time before China produces anything that is of stellar quality. It is not in their nature nor recent background. These generations do not have any connection to ancient China. Even the big knife makers who have located their production there will always never know with certainty what material was used when their back was turned. This is how they do business. Cheating is considered shrewd rather than wrong. The Chinese do not even trust each other. How do you think they treat Westerners? Buyer beware no matter what the product. Me, I'd rather my money support an American craftsmen producing American product. Name one item China produces at any quality level that does not turn to garbage in a short time. Everything is disposable. Have you ever seen a Busse, Dozier, Dawson, Randall, Chris Reeves worn out? I'd rather spend money for one good knife than have a collection of junk. And, I see firsthand, monthly, how Chinese factories work as I am there on business making other cheap disposable items for American consumers! Its laughable!
 
I would have to say no, unless it was one of those types where knife making ran in the family and it was something nice and handmade.
But I am decided that I am not going to support it when american companies just send the labor away from america to have it done cheaply in china.
 
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