Magnacut folders being "shorted" ?

DocJD

DocJD

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I mean literally short blade lengths .

At prices I can afford , I see only 3.25" or less in folders .

Seems to me that Magnacut has huge potential for use in "hard use", big bladed folders .

Serious duty utility/ fighters . BL=3.5" at least . Sturdy , strong build with the most reliable locks .

Like some classic ZT , Cold Steel , or big Spyderco designs , at reasonable cost .

Been wanting try Magnacut , but waiting for the whole package done right . :cool: :thumbsup:
 
The general trend in knife size has been trending downward towards smaller, slimmer, easier to carry lately. The "Tactical" "Hard Use" and "Overbuilt" trends that dominated folding knives in the early to mid 2010s are out of style now. Knifemakers are simply integrating a new steel into their latest offerings that fit with the latest trends.
 
Silent H said:
The general trend in knife size has been trending downward towards smaller, slimmer, easier to carry lately. The "Tactical" "Hard Use" and "Overbuilt" trends that dominated folding knives in the early to mid 2010s are out of style now. Knifemakers are simply integrating a new steel into their latest offerings that fit with the latest trends.
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🤨 Probably so ...but still a waste for this steel , IMO .
 
Danke42 said:
shenanigans or hijinx.
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:confused:Not implying any such , but one of the most exciting things for me with Magnacut is the potential to become affordable .

Ay least this was my understanding from Larrin , that the steel has no inherent reason to remain too expensive .
 
Silent H said:
It's a well balanced steel that's ideal for nearly any style of knife. It's not "a waste" just because you don't like the knives that have been made in this steel so far.
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Toughness especially is usually more important in larger , hard use type knives . Otherwise , I agree .
 
Blade over 3.25" and under $150. Until they sold out.
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DocJD said:
Toughness especially is usually more important in larger , hard use type knives . Otherwise , I agree .
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That's not true at all, this is a myth in the knife industry and I don't understand where it came from. If you have a big thick knife, it's gonna be incredibly "tough" no matter what steel it's made with compared to a thin, slicey one.

Take the Esee 5 for instance, a knife that is touted by some to be indestructible and is made of 1095, a steel which toughness wise scores lower or about the same compared to many CPM stainless steels that you often see people complaining about chipping in their super thin folders. People often wrongly attribute the toughness of knives made in 1095 steel to the steel itself, when in reality most 1095 knives are heat treated quite soft (55-58 HRC) and are pretty thick to boot. A thick knife doesn't have to worry about using a super tough steel because a quarter inch thick piece of steel like the Esee 5 is gonna be tough to mess up no matter what steel you use.

A thin, slicy knife on the other hand would benefit from a tougher steel like CPM-3V, Cru-Wear or even magnacut because it doesn't have that same structural strength as a thicker knife, you can grind a knife way thinner and still have a very stable edge using a tougher steel, I would take a 0.09" thick knife in magnacut over something like S90V any day of the week because I know I'll have far greater edge stability and less issues with chipping using the magnacut in a knife with such a thin blade stock.
 
Not sure about the OP’s price range, but I’m loving my James Brand Kline. It isn’t huge, but it’s a full-sized knife, and Magnacut really shines in it with the deep hollow grind. I wouldn’t want to use a hollow ground hard in something like m390, but Magnacut can support a nice thin edge without chipping.
 
DocJD said:
Toughness especially is usually more important in larger , hard use type knives . Otherwise , I agree .
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That s what I was thinking.
I personally prefer a 3 1/2 to 4 inch blade with a bit of thickness for work.
 
jstn said:
Not sure about the OP’s price range, but I’m loving my James Brand Kline. It isn’t huge, but it’s a full-sized knife, and Magnacut really shines in it with the deep hollow grind. I wouldn’t want to use a hollow ground hard in something like m390, but Magnacut can support a nice thin edge without chipping.
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Have you used the knife hard to find out about chipping?
 
jstn said:
Not sure about the OP’s price range, but I’m loving my James Brand Kline. It isn’t huge, but it’s a full-sized knife, and Magnacut really shines in it with the deep hollow grind. I wouldn’t want to use a hollow ground hard in something like m390, but Magnacut can support a nice thin edge without chipping.
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Any further thoughts and pics would be appreciated. Hard to find much out there from people with that knife
 
Silent H said:
The general trend in knife size has been trending downward towards smaller, slimmer, easier to carry lately. The "Tactical" "Hard Use" and "Overbuilt" trends that dominated folding knives in the early to mid 2010s are out of style now. Knifemakers are simply integrating a new steel into their latest offerings that fit with the latest trends.
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This has mostly been good for me. When it comes to actual EDC tasks, I rarely benefit from more than 3.5 of blade on a folder and a thinner knife is usually better. Anything over 0.125" feels superfluous to me and really doesn't offer much besides drag when passing it through material. The thin trend hasn't gone as far as the short trend but I'm happy to see it continue. There are a lot of new folders I've skipped for no other reason than that the blade thickness was like 0.16".

I can't speak to all corners of the EDC community but I also feel like better information and better access to information on defensive issues may be helping us to move past "tactical folders" for self defense. While better options aren't always available to everyone, I've really been glad to see the way both the gun community and martial arts or preparedness communities have been developing in recent years.

Of course, I'm happy to see more options for more people. Give it time. MagnaCut is still relatively new and there aren't that many folders yet overall.
 
Chronovore said:
I can't speak to all corners of the EDC community but I also feel like better information and better access to information on defensive issues may be helping us to move past "tactical folders" for self defense. While better options aren't always available to everyone, I've really been glad to see the way both the gun community and martial arts or preparedness communities have been developing in recent years.
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Move past tactical folders?!?!

Heavens to Betsy I hope not!

My tactical folders fit in so nicely between my martial arts and my firearms… :D

As for Magnacut, I seem to recall that it’s optimized for a fairly high hardness - up around 62+??

If/when I buy a Magnacut knife, I’d want the steel at roughly the optimized hardness, so probably any size folder would be fine but I’d want smaller/thinner in a fixed blade…
 
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