Magnacut-is-in-the-house.

I find legit to discuss new steels and how they compare to infi or sr101
In my experience, infi with a high polish finish doesn't hold an edge for long (like in DBK s video), maybe toothy edges are better
Infi was a good compromise, now 3v is a better one because who needs that toughness for the cost of edge holding?
I think people, over time, are getting this and are waiting for a kind of "upgrade", to enter a new generation
Of course no steels are bad, depends on the purposes etc etc, that's just my thoughts
 
I after watching other test videos on INFI's edge retention and comparing similar steels like A8 Mod's edge retention vs steels like A2, Im starting to think the "edge retention" or lack there of in the DBK video is a little skewed. One could say the edge geometry played a massive role in it.

I do think that Busse is probably testing out Magnacut as we speak at different hardnesses to find the optimal desired performance they want from their blades.
Rest assured whatever steel comes out new or old steel will just keep improving.

Magnacut would seem like a direct competitor to Busse's Elmax and a great choice for those size blades. Res-c + Magna would be a great fish knife.
 
I think an upgrade would be welcomed. Especially for small blades. EDC size blades would benefit from a new super steel. I think it is a must for the folder. How long has it been since INFI was first released? Look how far steels have come since then. I’m not hating on INFI. For a large chopper, I choose INFI any day. I’m sure that we can all agree on that. But even the most stubborn hogs must be curious about the potential of a new super steel optimized by Busse’s legendary heat treat.
Magnacut in the house! Bring it on Jerry!
 
Jerry Busse said:
Lots of experimenting with different steels all of the time around here. :cool:

We'll keep you informed as we find the time to compile the results. :thumbsup:

We have to make sure that we don't cut into our drinking time!!! ;)

Fun stuff!!! 😋

Let's drink!

Jerry 🎩

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Come on Jerry! Give a Hog a bone! Or is it dog a bone? or Rat??
You must have time for a little bit of info.
 
Maybe if Busse uses magnacut with their own heat treat it won't even be called magnacut... maybe not.

Maybe we'll get some new mysteriously named steel and have to wait a few years to find out what it is, until someone coughs up and donates a blade for science... maybe not, but I think all the current drinking is just to work out what it will be called and that could take a long long time... It would if it was me anyway.

Here's to the future, for those that make it, cheers
 
I have been more than impressed with INFI's edge holding, while being disappointed in 3V's edge holding. Probably the source of the 3V I've used. Nevertheless, unimpressed with 3V.
After derailing the "Bring back the TGLB" thread, and doing some more research, I am intrigued by the possibilities of Magnacut. Or MagNIFIcut. Or whatever it becomes. If anything.
 
yoko said:
Try delta 3v
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Supposedly I have. I have several knives in 3V as well as several in supposedly D3V. I MAY be able to discern a slight advantage in D3V in my usage, over 3V. But not over INFI. So, not sure what else to say.
I think a lot of it was expectation. I heard so much hype on 3V, and then D3V, that I was expecting a light saber. Not unlike the hype that I have heard over INFI (although it was of a different hype, toughness and ease of sharpening moreso that edge holding). So, when I got 3V/D3V, didn't live up to my expectations. I expected INFI to be tough (which it most certainly is), but I had read that it lacked a little in edge holding, placed the premium on toughness. Well, it holds an edge much better than I was expecting. So, I've been impressed with INFI, less so with (D)3V. In truth, to the limits of what I put them through they're both great steels. But it sure seems to me that INFI holds a better edge longer than (D)3V. And that is really all that matters. That, plus design, plus price, for my usage. I won't be pursuing any more 3V nor D3V for purely the fact the blade is in either of those steels. It just isn't worth it to me. Plus, it has been my experience, just as hyped, that INFI is easy to bring back to screaming sharpness with minimum of hassle. Maybe Magnacut will work the same way for me.
 
dogboye said:
Supposedly I have. I have several knives in 3V as well as several in supposedly D3V. I MAY be able to discern a slight advantage in D3V in my usage, over 3V. But not over INFI. So, not sure what else to say.
I think a lot of it was expectation. I heard so much hype on 3V, and then D3V, that I was expecting a light saber. Not unlike the hype that I have heard over INFI (although it was of a different hype, toughness and ease of sharpening moreso that edge holding). So, when I got 3V/D3V, didn't live up to my expectations. I expected INFI to be tough (which it most certainly is), but I had read that it lacked a little in edge holding, placed the premium on toughness. Well, it holds an edge much better than I was expecting. So, I've been impressed with INFI, less so with (D)3V. In truth, to the limits of what I put them through they're both great steels. But it sure seems to me that INFI holds a better edge longer than (D)3V. And that is really all that matters. That, plus design, plus price, for my usage. I won't be pursuing any more 3V nor D3V for purely the fact the blade is in either of those steels. It just isn't worth it to me. Plus, it has been my experience, just as hyped, that INFI is easy to bring back to screaming sharpness with minimum of hassle. Maybe Magnacut will work the same way for me.
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would you like to elaborate on your usage that led you to your conclusions?

very interesting!

Thanks!
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
would you like to elaborate on your usage that led you to your conclusions?

very interesting!

Thanks!
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Whacking at branches while mowing, building fires both in the wood stove and camping. I've also used both to break down cardboard boxes (neither did well there, but that isn't a job for toughness; more for edgeholding, like (D)3V is supposed to be good at). I don't recall butchering with (D)3V, but I have with INFI, and needed no sharpening afterward. So, nothing spectacular. My biggest gripe is (D)3V just hasn't held its edge as well as I believed it would according to what I had read.
 
dogboye said:
Whacking at branches while mowing, building fires both in the wood stove and camping. I've also used both to break down cardboard boxes (neither did well there, but that isn't a job for toughness; more for edgeholding, like (D)3V is supposed to be good at). I don't recall butchering with (D)3V, but I have with INFI, and needed no sharpening afterward. So, nothing spectacular. My biggest gripe is (D)3V just hasn't held its edge as well as I believed it would according to what I had read.
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I heard that D3V was supposed to he more stain resistant than regular 3V. Is there any truth to that?

What about edge stability differences? D3V is supposed to be able to handle thinner edge geometry without deformity like 3V.

EDIT
CPKs video on YouTube explains that D3V will not show an improvement in abrasion resistance over normal 3V. He says it will be superior in edge stability and corrosion resistance .
 
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So, to be clear on what I've been using....
All the 3V or D3V that I've been using has come from Survive!Knives. Which is why I keep using words like supposedly in regards to D3V. I know those guys aren't regarded well around here (nor by me anymore... you can see my opinion of them over in the Good, Bad, and Ugly). But, I got these before I got smarter. So, that being said, for all I actually know, the "Delta and 3V" that I've been using could be 154CM or something, for all I can actually trust.

Experientially, I have seen no difference in edge stability, nor corrosion resistance, between D3V and 3V. None of them have been left out in the weather, nor put up wet. None have exhibited corrosion or even staining. All have about the same edge geometry and sharpness, and I haven't seen a bit of difference between any of them in either edge holding or edge stability. None of them hold a really keen, razor edge any better than any other one, and none of them seem to hold an edge any better than the INFI I've had.

So, there are all the cards. 3V is ok, D3V is ok, neither of them stand out as a phenomenal steel, nor even a great steel, so far. Just.... steel. And both are harder than INFI to get back to a really keen edge.
 
dogboye said:
So, to be clear on what I've been using....
All the 3V or D3V that I've been using has come from Survive!Knives. Which is why I keep using words like supposedly in regards to D3V. I know those guys aren't regarded well around here (nor by me anymore... you can see my opinion of them over in the Good, Bad, and Ugly). But, I got these before I got smarter. So, that being said, for all I actually know, the "Delta and 3V" that I've been using could be 154CM or something, for all I can actually trust.

Experientially, I have seen no difference in edge stability, nor corrosion resistance, between D3V and 3V. None of them have been left out in the weather, nor put up wet. None have exhibited corrosion or even staining. All have about the same edge geometry and sharpness, and I haven't seen a bit of difference between any of them in either edge holding or edge stability. None of them hold a really keen, razor edge any better than any other one, and none of them seem to hold an edge any better than the INFI I've had.

So, there are all the cards. 3V is ok, D3V is ok, neither of them stand out as a phenomenal steel, nor even a great steel, so far. Just.... steel. And both are harder than INFI to get back to a really keen edge.
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Infi it is then
 
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