Magnussen, could you please?

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Since I was the one that accepted delivery of the fire pouch for Protourist (Mack) that he won, could you post a tutorial on how to use the items in the fire pouch? We were very excited to have received the fire pouch, and I am anxious to use it and impress Protourist when he gets home. Fabulous workmanship on the kit! I would think that there are others out there that could benefit from a tutorial as well. Thank you!
 
I hope you can put something together Rick. Perhaps if she gets proficient, I will be able to have a beer while she does all the work.
 
Well Welcome to Mrs. Protourist!!!

Maybe you can post a pic of that kit so the rest of us can ooh and aww..
 
These are the pics from Rick. I'm dying to get my hands on this thing. I've heard nothing but good about Rick's work (we must take Talfuchre with a grain of salt right?) and I really want to get good at using different tools in the field.
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To answer your wife's question. You have a high carbon steel striker, piece of flint(pretty rock), charred cotton, and Jute twine in that kit.

Hold the flint in one hand with a sharp end of the rock facing up. In the same hand hold a piece of charred cotton just behind the sharp edge. In the other hand you hold the striker. Strike the flint with the striker. What you are trying to do is shave lil pieces of steel from the striker with the sharp flint. The lil pices of steel come off the striker as sparks. Hopefully you catch one of those sparks in the charred cotton. Once you do that you will have an ember. The ember will glow orange and become as hot as a head of a lit ciggarette. You need to seperate the jute fibers making a little nest. The fuzzier the better. Place the ember in the jute nest and blow it to a flame. Take care to hold the jute nest with the hot ember inside, over your head; so you don't get smoke in your face. When you blow it; start softly and blow harder as you go.

Good luck, its a fun way to make fire!
 
I wrote an article on the basis of that kit for Forest and Stream magazine that can be found here:

http://www.forestandstream.com/kgd/a-primer-to-ignition-and-tinder-sources-for-basic-fire-starting

Reid's (aka Sharpshooter) article on flint steel fire making is also a good resource to flint and steel techniques:

http://www.forestandstream.com/sharpshooter/flint-and-steel-firestarting

Finally check out this youtube video on the use of the Sharpshooter fire wallet flint and steel in action. Use the same methods with Magnussen's kit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEl2ObWIHvU

Man - I can't figure out how to link the youtube direct in there...sorry guys....
 
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I wrote an article on the basis of that kit for Forest and Stream magazine that can be found here:

http://www.forestandstream.com/kgd/a-primer-to-ignition-and-tinder-sources-for-basic-fire-starting

Reid's (aka Sharpshooter) article on flint steel fire making is also a good resource to flint and steel techniques:

http://www.forestandstream.com/sharpshooter/flint-and-steel-firestarting

Finally check out this youtube video on the use of the Sharpshooter fire wallet flint and steel in action. Use the same methods with Magnussen's kit:

[youtube]v=WEl2ObWIHvU[/youtube]


Not an instruction manual per se but talks about different uses of the kit.

Thanks.
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Thanks protourist :D

One tip that Rick gave me. When making your own charcloth you can use any 100% cotton material. However, what really works best is using terry cloth like that found on your towel or facecloth or washcloth. When you create your charcloth with the terry cloth material, you get charcloth that retains all the little bumps and singled out fibers. This gives a lot of surface area and catches a spark much easier than a plain/flat cloth.
 
All good advice folks...... you don't need me, Yolbolsun..... welcome to the forums BTW.

Rick
 
All good advice folks...... you don't need me, Yolbolsun..... welcome to the forums BTW.

Rick

She says there is some leather in the pouch that she was not sure of it's use. Since I can't see it I'm not sure either.
 
That piece of leather is cut to the shape of the lid. It protects the lens from scratches and reduces any rattles. I also use it to hold the flint while pressure flaking (knapping) it back to a good edge. (Those flint flakes are really sharp!) There are a bunch of other uses for it, if you get creative!


Rick

You can see a bit of it in this pic...

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Thank you so much everyone! You have solved the mystery and now I can practice to get skillful and impress Protourist. I plan to light the hibachi with the kit, and I will try to take pics and send them along to you. Thanks again!!
 
Rick makes a great kit. I have been making fire with flint and steel over 30 years. A few tips helpful. I use kerosene lamp wicks for my char cloth. The are 100% cotton, nice and thick after being charred and hold together well. The thickness holds the burning ember longer for me. You just tear off a piece to the length you think you will be needing to catch the tinder you will be using. I hold the char to the edge of the flint with my thumb bent into a little cave and the sparks bounce off the thumb onto the more exposed surface of the charcloth. I also use a leather oval to go under the lid of my kit to protect the glass. I also made one for the bottom of the tin and place my char cloth under it to keep it from getting busted up. I suppose you could also use an innertube flat piece to do the same and have some hot fuel to keep the fire going in damp weather. I also have a small piece of copper tube to direct the flow of air into the bundle, really not necessary but helps. Also check out flintknapping to keep your flint sharp, not everyone knows how to knap an edge on. Regards
 
Great advice!:thumbup:
Thanks.
 
Without an actual fire... since I'm in my kitchen... lol (I'll post a video of the whole process, later) here is my method for traditional flint and steel fire lighting. I like this method because it uses minimum material, extending the life of my firekit supplies.

Here is the kit...
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My char is made of shredded cotton. (terrycloth/towel) I find that the matrix of fibre really catches the sparks well...
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My jute is 4 strand reverse twist and is a little less than 2" long. I separate the strands then pull apart the fibres. I lightly compress the wad into a flat rectangle...
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