Making a "Green" knife - are there Green practices in knife making?

It's kind of inefficient to make one knife at a time. The best thing we could do for this earth would be to let the chinese mass produce them. Or, understand there's a unique place in this world for custom knives, and admit there's very little that's green about the process. I think, maybe:).

Interesting view. I have purchased many offshore mass produced blades and only have a few customs aside from my own. The customs are still going strong, while the cookie-cutter budget blades fade away for one reason or another. Though mass production is "initially" more efficient, I challenge that a well made custom has less impact over the long term.

Rick
 
I'm with you Rick, I like the "Or" part better. It's just that I'm pretty sure the fuel to forge one knife might heat a small house for a day. One stainless heat treat cycle could probably run basic lighting for a week, and we're supposed to get all recyclables to an appropriate collection center.

Just thinking that, for me, knifemaking has feel good points on it's own merit, Craig
 
I love the fact that we have the luxury to worry about whether we are being responsible with our environment. I think one of the best ways of being environmentally conscious would be to send all the Federal EPA regulators to China and somehow force them to follow our "environmental" policies. Say goodbye to all of our cheap crap in Walmart.
-M
 
I keep trying to avoid using tropical hardwoods, the rainforests being butchered and all, but I just cannot pass up a good piece of African blackwood!
I do use a lot more domestic hardwoods these days...
 
My idea of a "green" knife is one made of recycled materials. Automotive spring steel forged into blades, and scrap wood, horse stall mat or rag mycarta scales, etc.

I made some throwing knives out of coil spring, with reground plastic scales. That plastic was good and shock proof, too.

I like recycling chain and cable into blades, too.

Hear, hear! (Or is it, "Here, here!"?)

Anyway, I like the idea of recycling old found steel. Granted, it's not like the steel I order from a supplier is made from virgin iron ore and freshly mined chromium, vanadium, etc., but picking up an old truck spring means there's one less piece of discarded crap laying around.

Plus, I like the idea of being able to work with whatcha got. I'm not likely to pick up some mystery steel, know it's constituents to the hundredth of a percent, and be able to eke out every last bit of metallurgical potential to make God's own blade...but familiarizing myself with the way steel works will allow me to do a more than passable job of making a knife, even if I'm not 100% sure of exactly what I have.

I'm also fond of domestic hardwoods for handle material. It's cheaper, and I don't have to worry that I'm going to poison myself with some weird kind of Congolese Tree Funk when I sand it.

For fuel, I use propane. I don't know if it's "better" than coal, but I find it hard to believe it isn't. And I rigged a forced-air system, which means I can achieve similar forge temps while using less gas than a Venturi system...or so I've been led to believe. (That decision was made because I'm cheap, to be honest.)

And when my quench bucket gets a little low, I take the opportunity to take a leak. Kill two birds with one stone, I say.
 
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i know at least on maker witha forge that runs diesel and to that you could run boi or cleaned fry oil in it (i even thought about building one like that just cause i like the thought of it
i looked into solar too for the shop as i would love to be off grid but with the pull of the kiln or the grinder the bank of batterys would be massive (BTW for all the ppl that thing electric cars are great think about all those batts. and that fact that coal is still burned for you to plug into )
 
It's kind of inefficient to make one knife at a time. The best thing we could do for this earth would be to let the chinese mass produce them. Or, understand there's a unique place in this world for custom knives, and admit there's very little that's green about the process. I think, maybe:).

By the Gods I hope you are kidding! Chinese industry is one of the foulest things to happen to the planet! They have no industrial environmental regulations, for that matter they have no industrial safety. The company I used to work for owned a cobalt mining/smelting company in China and nickel mines in China. It was the most economical to get it there because they can and do just dump the tailings in the river
 
Now that you mention it Butch, my vertical welding forge runs on either propane or waste oil. I got about 60 gallons of used fry oil recently, a little straining and it burns HOT. Still have to work some bugs out of the system, though. I have the gravity oil tank teed off to my wood stove as well.

Heck, having a well insulated shop for the winter is a way to make knives with less of a carbon footprint. I just got done with that, wow I hate insulating.

I'm with the Mook, it's a good point that most steel has been recycled already at least once, but it's nice to feel like you're cleaning the place up a little by using castoff steel sometimes.
 
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