The instructions on my CQC-t which has that composite nylon handle (I think? Hell it's synthetic not wood) is 'IT AIN'T STRONG ENOUGH FOR THROWING'. I think that is a pretty good rule of thumb to go by. Damn you guys ! I guess I'm going to have to invest in a Lagana (probably overdue) to compare the two. All of you should be ashamed of yourselfs for making me think 'outside the box' on this modern stuff.
All the Best
Dwight
brother dwight,
there is the dilemma with
"composite handles" - imagine if you ordered a
"wood" handle, and ya got one - with a
Balsa Wood handle.
it's a
"wood" handle.
but it ain't
straight-grained Hickory.
when folks see
"composite handle", they don't think
"fiber-oriented, aerospace material'd endoskeletal tomahawk handle", nor do they think
"piece of millled-fiber poly-resin moosh-pole" -
and they pay the price of their ignorance at least three ways;
1) they stick with wood. (if strength is an issue - some folks just like wood's look, so do i, that's why i am making composite handles that have wood inlays or that look like wood.)
2) they go with the latest whiz-bang hawk with a composite moosh-handle - a lot of times they take it into a combat theater,
where no poly-resin-based product should be in my opinion, except for Vinyl Esters, which these are not - doesn't matter though,
because these hawks stay behind in the HMMWV -
3) they buy an expensive hawk with a "composite" handle - but the handle is just milled nylon full of milled fibers -
usually solid - ever notice
why they don't state the weight on that? ever notice how folks cut their
"perfect fighter" down? why don't they just use a chunk of Re-Bar? they weigh about the same per inch.
- i am not trying to sell hawks here,
i am trying to educate the public about something they have no way of knowing unless some jerk like me in the business of making not hawks, but HANDLES explains it to them; LONGER IS BETTER IN A FIGHT - if you think that a 24 - 30" lightweight staff with weapons all over it is inferior to a weapon that is 14" long
that weighs the same, then you need to cut your body down to 14" too,
because YOU are supposed to be the WEAPON, warriors.
every scout/sniper in the Marine Corps knows that a human adult has a
standard torso length - no matter what part of the world he is from
(easy ranging when hunting two-legs (oo-RAHhh.)) - any buddy care to say what that is? -
what matters is it is longer than 28 inches, folks.
i have put my money where my mouth is once in theis thread already,
challenging - it
wasn't meant to be unfriendly,
just instructive. - here's another challenge - let's get in a hallway with you with a short hawk, and me with a long hawk and
go at it - i am going to win, even if you throw that little thing - because
we live and die by technique.
technique in building, technique in combatives.
whether we are aware or not of that ugly fact is
immaterial to the Outcome.
am i falling on deaf ears here?
i think not - i know we have a lot of open minds here, and that is all i expect, and all i need.
there are some simple facts in this community that are not being accepted:
1) you can have a
long lightweight hawk that
you can throw, and
that will take it.
2) a tomahawk is an effective weapon,
especially when leveraging contemporary technologies.
3) even though it is an excellent weapon, a
proper tomahawk distinguishes itself from all but the Knife,
by being an equally good utility tool.
a lot of manufacturers can make whatever they want, whenever they want,
but when you start in composites, just hiring any buddy to do anything is like trying to go across country when you have no idea
which way north is, and not knowing the
name of the city you are going to, or what state it is in for that matter.
i can't overempathize that enough -
the more milled fiber, poly-resin'd moosh-handles out there that break, the more composites get a bad name, and the more folks turn away from them -
but that's a shame, because
proper composites can beat the best natural wood any day, in
strength and
weight, when done right, or
even when done half-assed. - and the
best resins; the Epoxies, are even
Nature Friendly to use.
throwing a hawk is a toughness test,
a good one.
i couldn't hand a hawk to a brother marine that i wouldn't throw - not because i expect him to
throw it, but
i expect it to last - we have the best
Happiness Guarantee i know, but that won't do him any good when he is in the fireld with a busted hawk -
that is not acceptable.
a lot of folks have said things about hawks only being good for martial arts, or the odd soldier that is bonking bad guys -
that just shows how much awareness needs to be lifted in this community!
thanks for your consideration in this matter, brethren.
asshat vec
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