Mammoth "bark ivory" on Buck 55?

[bilrus61]

Was looking at getting a Buck 55 from A.G Russell with the "mammoth ivory bark" scales. Ok what exactly is that? I would guess its the outside layer of mammoth tusk they have found in the artic. Does anyone have a idea if its durable/waterproof or is it just for the collector's case? If its is as durable as sambar stag I might get one just for the thrill of carrying around something that unique and beautiful. Anyone that knows about mammoth ivory bark please respond! Thanks! Bilrus61

 

[jb4570]

Hi bilrus61,

That's a good question!! The mastodon ivory is very dense stuff and I'm no expert. Some one will come along with the info you are looking for. The mastodon ivory has been under ground so long it's like petrified wood...or stone. The 55 is very nice but, a little small for me. Have you looked at the "07 500LE? the Duke 500 is about the same length.

 

[chickentrax]

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The mastodon ivory has been under ground...

Has it really??? I was under the impression that the Mammoths were being harvested from glaciers, icepacks, etc...

Learn something new every day...

 

[jb4570]

Has it really??? I was under the impression that the Mammoths were being harvested from glaciers, icepacks, etc...

Trax,

The way I see the world may not be the same as others views. If you can stand on it and walk on it...it's ground. I don't care wether it's frozen or not. That's just the way I see it brother .

jb4570

 

[Jollyjumbuck]

Hi bilrus61, I found this on a website thought it may be usefull info for you:


"Mammoth ivory ranges from 10,000 to 40,000 years old and has been preserved in the permafrost in Alaska and Siberia. It has an outer layer commonly called bark ivory which is harder than the inner ivory or dentine.

Mammoth Ivory has survived tens of thousands of years buried in the Arctic permafrost so it is resilient; however it is also ancient and will benefit from some special handling. It is sensitive to temperature & humidity and will adjust to the weather conditions as it breathes. Harsh fluctuations and extreme conditions will have an adverse effect on the ivory as it expands and contracts."

Hope this helps,
Graham.

 

[chickentrax]

Great description, jollyjumbuck!!!

I was fortunate to find a pic of the Wooly Mammoth, as it once walked the Earth...

I'm no hunter...but I believe that's an "eight pointer"...

 

[110 Dave]

Great description, jollyjumbuck!!!
I was fortunate to find a pic of the Wooly Mammoth, as it once walked the Earth...

I'm no hunter...but I believe that's an "eight pointer"...

yowser! got me some spear points ...
jest need some one what can sneek and run to act as bait now...
gee were is rineo when you need him!!

 

[chickentrax]

This reminds me of how the Innuits hunt Moose up North...they lay down in a canoe, in the river, where the water flows briskly along...they have a rope tether in one hand, and a sledge hammer lying on their chest...they wait for a Moose to wade out in the current to drink...then they let go of the tether, and float down to the Moose...the poor Moose thinks it is a log (they're kind of nearsighted, and no Einsteins either)...and when the Innuit floats up to the Moose, he sits up and smacks him in the forehead with the sledge hammer...

...Mmmm...Moose steaks... :thumbup:

 

[okbohn]

I have ordered some Mammoth Ivory for some custom knives...I can't wait to see the stuff!

 

[White_Spring50lb]

This reminds me of how the Innuits hunt Moose up North...they lay down in a canoe, in the river, where the water flows briskly along...they have a rope tether in one hand, and a sledge hammer lying on their chest...they wait for a Moose to wade out in the current to drink...then they let go of the tether, and float down to the Moose...the poor Moose thinks it is a log (they're kind of nearsighted, and no Einsteins either)...and when the Innuit floats up to the Moose, he sits up and smacks him in the forehead with the sledge hammer...

...Mmmm...Moose steaks... :thumbup:

That's way more stealth then how the boys I met in NWT did it. There'd be 2 guys in a 16 foot Lund with 60 horse motor, charging up river against the current with the bow 5 feet in the air, one guy steering the boat, the other guy taking potshots at whatever's walking the riverbank. We called these guys the Native SEALS. For some reason it reminded me of some kind of strange Northern 'Baywatch'.

 

[chickentrax]

That's way more stealth then how the boys I met in NWT did it...

The Innuits don't have all that much $$$ for fancy hunting equipment...


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[chickentrax]

Was looking at getting a Buck 55 from A.G Russell with the "mammoth ivory bark" scales...

The mastodon ivory is very dense stuff and I'm no expert...

OK, I'll never be mistaken for an expert in anything either...but it's my understanding that Mastodon and Mammoth are two different animals...

Anybody have a comparison we can use to evaluate these critters ancestry???

 

[Jollyjumbuck]

Anybody have a comparison we can use to evaluate these critters ancestry???

Hey chickentrax, I'm bored so I did a quick search and found this page.

http://skywalker.cochise.edu/wellerr/students/mammoth-mastodon/mastodon.htm

Graham

 

[chickentrax]

Hey chickentrax, I'm bored so I did a quick search and found this page.

http://skywalker.cochise.edu/wellerr/students/mammoth-mastodon/mastodon.htm

Graham

Fascinating!!! (as Spock would say) :thumbup:

I notice this is a students' term paper...I wonder what mark he got???

How would you hunters go for a kill shot on one of these??? 8 tons for a Mastodon...that's a lot of meat!!! Need a really big deep fat fryer for one of Goose's outdoor roasts!!!

 

[chickentrax]

Hey chickentrax, I'm bored...

Graham

Graham/jollyjumbuck -

What actually is a jollyjumbuck??? Is it a title, a cute grandmothers name, an animal, a nickname, what???

"Chickentrax" is a reference to when I was up in Canada [Fonthill, Ont] looking for some old Norton motorcycle parts...The Parts Manager of a local Britbike dealership had some friends who had old Norton parts stored in a chicken coop...they all had (err, coff, coff) "chicken tracks" on them...needless to say, for quite some time I was called "chickensh*t" by my Britbike riding buddies... But you can't say that in a family forum, so I'm "chickentrax" here...

 

[jb4570]

Fascinating!!! (as Spock would say) :thumbup:

I notice this is a students' term paper...I wonder what mark he got???

How would you hunters go for a kill shot on one of these??? 8 tons for a Mastodon...that's a lot of meat!!! Need a really big deep fat fryer for one of Goose's outdoor roasts!!!

Face on trax with a brain shot!!!!

jb4570

 

[WilltheBarb]

I’ll bet that cranium is thick. Your bullet might bounce off or be deflected. Rather than head on I would go just behind the ear from 5 or 7 o’clock. That works for moose and should work for a mastodon as well.

This great white hunter moment is brought to you by ‘Time Tunnel’, when it’s just got to get their first.

 

[chickentrax]

Face on trax with a brain shot!!!!

I've read that Brontosaurs had a brain the size of a walnut...I wouldn't expect a Mammoth/Mastodon to be much better...although they did last a lot longer...maybe they were the Einsteins of their day, eh wot???

 

[Richard Matheny]

Mastodon Ivory, bark or interior is not fossilized, that is, replaced by quartz/silica over millions of years. Teeth/tusks are made of calcite/calcium carbonate (Mohs hardness 3) which is softer and more easily damaged than quartz (Mohs hardness 7, Diamond = 10). I would guess ivory and stag are similar in hardness. To answer the original question, I guess you can carry the ivory 55 around if you wish but with the thin inlays on the 55 you can expect some damage (chipping or cracking) at some point. It's your money.

 

[Jollyjumbuck]

Graham/jollyjumbuck -

What actually is a jollyjumbuck??? Is it a title, a cute grandmothers name, an animal, a nickname, what???

"Chickentrax" is a reference to when I was up in Canada [Fonthill, Ont] looking for some old Norton motorcycle parts...The Parts Manager of a local Britbike dealership had some friends who had old Norton parts stored in a chicken coop...they all had (err, coff, coff) "chicken tracks" on them...needless to say, for quite some time I was called "chickensh*t" by my Britbike riding buddies... But you can't say that in a family forum, so I'm "chickentrax" here...

A jumbuck is aussie slang for a sheep. Which is how most people over here seem to act when it comes to knives, blindly following anyone when it comes to restricting them so jollyjumbuck is a sarcastic way of saying happy sheep. I left the flock