Manix 2 edge angle uneven, what should I do?

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baliflipper02

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I picked up a new Spyderco Manix 2 a few days ago and under close inspection, the angle looks like it varies. I own the Spyderco Sharpmaker so I'm wondering what should I do? Send it in to a professional to put an even edge on it? Reprofile it myself (with a sharpmaker *cringe*)? All help is appreciated and I will try to link pictures. Thanks!
 
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it should even out over a handful of sharpening's!but if you have a edge pro or freehand its a easy fix, (most) spyderco's come with even grinds! and a couple that are uneven sometimes make it out the factory!if it make's you that unhappy just return it,i have had two where the grinds are uneven one side to the other and just ended up keeping them!so its up to you my friend,wish you best of luck.;)
 
The sharpmaker will generally be on for Spyderco knives regarding edge angle, but I've had a couple that required a rebeveling. Check out my wooden guide blocks on my YouTube channel, me2bfc. They were made using g scrap wood specifically for rebeveling to get angles slightly lower than the Sharpmaker angles, so the Sharpmaker is used just for a microbevel. I have one at 18 degrees per side (DPS) for the 40 degree slots, and one at 12 DPS for the 30 degree slots. The Sharpmaker slots are total angle, so they are really 20 DPS and 15 DPS. If you can use the Sharpmaker, the blocks work the same way.

Also, I've found the Norton Economy coarse/fine combo stone to work well on the coarse side and is about $7 at Home Depot. The fine side works OK, but on the ones I've had, the fine side was always dished. I flattened mine, but it would be a little frustrating for someone right out of the box.
 
baliflipper02 said:
No I do not. Ive tried before and ruined 3 of my knives..
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Then it sounds like you should send it out to a professional.

An idea though, since you say you can use the sharpmaker: I have 6" DMT stones. I put them against my sharpmaker rods to get the angle right, and then I go to town. While I'm no pro, I find I've gotten pretty great results.
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
Then it sounds like you should send it out to a professional.

An idea though, since you say you can use the sharpmaker: I have 6" DMT stones. I put them against my sharpmaker rods to get the angle right, and then I go to town. While I'm no pro, I find I've gotten pretty great results.
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Interesting. I think I will send it to a professional because I wouldn't want to ruin a perfectly good knife trying out a new method for the first time. Thanks for the suggestion though!
 
KNIVES SHARPENED ON A MACHINE WILL NEVER BE EXACT, NEVER!!!!

This is why I have said to never put too much stock in factory edges, they are not the gold standard but just the opposite, it's a get the knife out the door as fast as possible to make money type of sharpening.

Because of the way the edge was ground a lot of steel would need to be removed for what is nothing more than average cosmetic flaws. If you want to do it yourself go to Home Depot and pick up a cheap Norton stone from the tool aisle, your free handing with the SM so the stone is no different. It will be coarse enough and fast enough to set the bevel you want and allow you to follow up with the SM.
 
baliflipper02 said:
I picked up a new Spyderco Manix 2 a few days ago and under close inspection, the angle looks like it varies. I own the Spyderco Sharpmaker so I'm wondering what should I do? Send it in to a professional to put an even edge on it? Reprofile it myself (with a sharpmaker *cringe*)? All help is appreciated and I will try to link pictures. Thanks!
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Unless the knife doesn't cut it's merely cosmetic, use it and when it becomes dull sharpen it. Over time and a series of sharpening sessions it'll fix itself, no need to go grinding steel off for something merely cosmetic. (Unless it's just a show piece and will see lil to no use)
 
Bobby3326 said:
Unless the knife doesn't cut it's merely cosmetic, use it and when it becomes dull sharpen it. Over time and a series of sharpening sessions it'll fix itself, no need to go grinding steel off for something merely cosmetic. (Unless it's just a show piece and will see lil to no use)
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Well I'm worried about edc because it gets scary thin around the tip area, and I know that thin edges are not ideal for edc. I might send it into a profession to put and even angle on it that I can maintain on the SM
 
If it is sharp.

Start cutting stuff.
When it is dull. Sharpen it.


Its a Plain Jane Manix2 and the edge is fine.
Besides, compared to a Tenacious with a Chinese grind.

Yours is perfect.
 
baliflipper02 said:
Well I'm worried about edc because it gets scary thin around the tip area, and I know that thin edges are not ideal for edc. I might send it into a profession to put and even angle on it that I can maintain on the SM
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It'll be fine for edc, I actually prefer a thinner edge. Especially with the better steels out now that can hold a thin edge.


You don't wanna go grinding a ton of steel off a new knife for cosmetic reasons. Over time it'll even out naturally as its sharpened. So just use it until it's dull, sharpen it and repeat. And for some reason you withstand unnatural damage to the edge, then worry about sending it to a professional if it's to much to fix on your own. Besides I very rarely see prefect bevels on production knives, with a few exceptions.


Or if it's really bothering you that much just return it for another
 
uxo2 said:
If it is sharp.

Start cutting stuff.
When it is dull. Sharpen it.


Its a Plain Jane Manix2 and the edge is fine.
Besides, compared to a Tenacious with a Chinese grind.

Yours is perfect.
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All true. I will most likely keep using it till I notice its dulling, then get it reprofiled by a professional then keep maintaining it.
 
Bobby3326 said:
It'll be fine for edc, I actually prefer a thinner edge. Especially with the better steels out now that can hold a thin edge.


You don't wanna go grinding a ton of steel off a new knife for cosmetic reasons. Over time it'll even out naturally as its sharpened. So just use it until it's dull, sharpen it and repeat. And for some reason you withstand unnatural damage to the edge, then worry about sending it to a professional if it's to much to fix on your own. Besides I very rarely see prefect bevels on production knives, with a few exceptions.
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Maybe I should invest in some diamond SM stones??
 
baliflipper02 said:
Maybe I should invest in some diamond SM stones??
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Yea diamonds will make it easier sharpening more wear resistant steels like s30v .

Or look into one of the guided systems like a lansky diamond set, edge pro, or wicked edge...you could also go with a work sharp for setting a bevel quickly then finish off and maintain on the sharp maker.
 
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Uneven bevels bug the heck out of me too. And I used to take them straight to a stone. But now I'm becoming a little more conservative and try to get some good use out of a factory edge first. I figure if it's going to the stone anyway (and lose a little bit of life), I may as well use it first to see how I like the blade geometry and such first. Then any damage I do to the edge during it's original "trial" will be fixed on the first sharpening.

While I agree with Jason B. that factory edges are seldom perfect, I have had better luck with Spyderco than many manufacturers for initial grinds. But my own edges are always better than pretty much every factory edge I've ever had. But mangled a lot of cheap knives to get there. And while I love Sharpmakers for touch ups or micro bevels, I could never get a decent profile change out of it.

So unless you want to spend the time (a lot of time) practicing, I'd say use it to death, then send it to someone like Jason B. to redo the edge to a show piece.
 
baliflipper02 said:
All true. I will most likely keep using it till I notice its dulling, then get it reprofiled by a professional then keep maintaining it.
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In the mean time get a cheap bench stone & go to goodwill or somewhere similar grab a handful of knives & practice freehand sharpening. When I first got into knives I swear I was about as bad at freehand as it gets & thought id just never be able to do it. It took me quite awhile & I'm still learning new things, but learning to freehand was the best thing I've done when it comes to my knife hobby. I learned a lot from here & watching YouTube videos.
 
One of my Delica ZDP's had uneven bevels, about 15° on one side, 20° on the other. It was sharp and had no trouble slicing.

But it eventually bugged me enough to even them up on my Sharpmaker with CBN rods at 30° with a 40° micro bevel.

Took me a good 30 minutes. Did it while watching TV.
 
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