Manix 2 lightweight fake?

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Picked up from an individual. Is this one legit or a counterfeit?

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The box looks legit, but the knife is not black...
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The box is from a knife with BD1N steel, not S30v, so that's at least not correct. I'd have to search it, but I don't remember Spyderco making an S30v LW Manix, and definitely not in that color.
 
The box is from a knife with BD1N steel, not S30v, so that's at least not correct. I'd have to search it, but I don't remember Spyderco making an S30v LW Manix, and definitely not in that color.
That's why I made the post, I cannot find another knife like this online. It's not a big deal for me, the friend said if I get it verified as a counterfeit he will refund my money and take it up with the person he bought it from.
 
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I don't know about all the different lightweight Manix2s but the box cover looks real dark and the real ones have a light shade of grey striping. I can't tell for sure with those pics though. Also the "Y" in Spyderco is taller and looks weird on clones. Yours looks ok.
 
The recent uptick in clones/fakes is astounding , not sure what’s going on but I saw a whole ass website that someone new could be fooled by recently featuring blades purporting to be from bantang and Ben tendick . There are social media accounts claiming to be the official manufactures account 🤷🏻
 
The font looks off/uneven, the pivot looks shinier. Something looks off at a minimum it was tinkered with but I'm thinking it could be fake. Also just noticed the Spyder logo on the blade is not right at all it's supposed to have a crisp triangular design where the mouth area is. And if you Google image s30v manix you will see the letter e in Spyderco is sloppy and wrong.
 
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Picked up from an individual. Never seen these rivets on a US made model before. Is this one legit or a counterfeit?

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The box looks legit, but the knife is not black...
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The font looks off/uneven, the pivot looks shinier. Something looks off at a minimum it was tinkered with but I'm thinking it could be fake. Also just noticed the Spyder logo on the blade is not right at all it's supposed to have a crisp triangular design where the mouth area is. And if you Google image s30v manix you will see the letter e in Spyderco is sloppy and wrong.

I may be a little late to the party here, but this one got under my skin. If you look at the lettering on the show side of the blade on a legitimate Manix 2 in S30V, you will see the letters in "Spyderco" are all crisp and evenly spaced with no letters touching each other:


Looking at the lettering on the show side of your example, the letters in "Spyderco" appear less crisp and the letters "pyde" and "co" appear to touch each other. Did you ever get an opinion from the mothership as to authenticity?
 
I may be a little late to the party here, but this one got under my skin. If you look at the lettering on the show side of the blade on a legitimate Manix 2 in S30V, you will see the letters in "Spyderco" are all crisp and evenly spaced with no letters touching each other:


Looking at the lettering on the show side of your example, the letters in "Spyderco" appear less crisp and the letters "pyde" and "co" appear to touch each other. Did you ever get an opinion from the mothership as to authenticity?
I have since had a conversation with whomever at Spyderco through emails, asking them questions about the color, texture, and steel type. Using these same images and some closer higher-rez ones showing the ball bearing lock inside. They never mentioned the color, the steel, or the font, or lock. They simply told me there was no way for them to tell from the images if it was a counterfeit or not, that if I wanted to know if it was a counterfeit I would have to send it back to them and if they determined it to be a fake they would return it to me at my expense.

Since they inferred they had indeed made a Manix 2 in this color and steel type, by saying they couldn't tell by the images if it was fake. And didn't mention any part of this knife at all. Since it is laser sharp as usual for Spyderco, I'm just accepting it as a real one and going on.
 
I have since had a conversation with whomever at Spyderco through emails, asking them questions about the color, texture, and steel type. Using these same images and some closer higher-rez ones showing the ball bearing lock inside. They never mentioned the color, the steel, or the font, or lock. They simply told me there was no way for them to tell from the images if it was a counterfeit or not, that if I wanted to know if it was a counterfeit I would have to send it back to them and if they determined it to be a fake they would return it to me at my expense.

Since they inferred they had indeed made a Manix 2 in this color and steel type, by saying they couldn't tell by the images if it was fake. And didn't mention any part of this knife at all. Since it is laser sharp as usual for Spyderco, I'm just accepting it as a real one and going on.
Welp, that's not super satisfying but I suppose it's better than being immediately confirmed a fake. I hope it works well for you.
 
Welp, that's not super satisfying but I suppose it's better than being immediately confirmed a fake. I hope it works well for you.
The way I see it is this. If the details are so good that the officials at the company who makes these knives cannot tell if it's fake from looking at hi rez close up images of all the parts of the knife? Then either I have to accept this one as real, or I have to accept that the counterfeiting has gotten so good and so precise that any Spyderco knife I ever look at in a store from now on has a high probability of being a fake, because it could have been switched out anywhere in the retail stream from the Spyderco factory to the purveyor. And the only way to be sure I avoid them would be to avoid purchasing Spyderco knives at all.

For starters, after research and recent discussions on another knife, a Benchmade fixed Adamas, I suspected may be counterfeit and was really disturbed by the thought of the details of a counterfeit being that precise. Then being told by Benchmade it does not look like a counterfeit but a mistake they made. I'm thinking the counterfeiters have not reached the point of making the investment of being that precise, it would seriously lower their profits to do so.

But ultimately I'm just choosing to be more optimistic than that. LOL, if I haven't stopped carrying Spyderco knives because I don't care for the owner of the company, I don't see why I should let their being a microscopic chance this knife is a fake stop me....
 
Spyderco and most other manufacturers aren’t going to answer authenticity questions without the item in hand. The exception might be something that’s so obviously fake like the liner lock para 2.

Mistwalker Mistwalker your Manix 2 is not real
 
Spyderco and most other manufacturers aren’t going to answer authenticity questions without the item in hand. The exception might be something that’s so obviously fake like the liner lock para 2.

Mistwalker Mistwalker your Manix 2 is not real
I get that, but I did not ask them if it was a counterfeit, I didn't make it that far. I was told by a friend he had never seen one in that color and that steel. At the time I had a full weight Manix 2 in CMP S30V so I knew they made some in that steel. I just asked if the color and steel type were something they had legitimately done.

Because looking at the ball bearing locks of both models and one of a friend's, blue light weight M2, the dimensions, the blade grinds, the ball bearing locks and springs, the edge bevels, etc., it doesn't look like a counterfeit. I just wanted to be able to tell my friend whether or not Spyderco had made a light weight in that color. I think anyone with any common sense would infer that they must have made one in that color, just from them saying they couldn't tell by the images if it was a counterfeit or not. It would seem reasonable considering they never said no we didn't make one that color.

And then 3 other friends sent me pictures of plumb colored Manix 2 Lightweight models they had found on the net. So at this point, nothing about the knife points to it being a counterfeit as far as I'm concerned and I'm good with it. If the counterfeits get so good that I have to send every spyderco knife I buy back to Spyderco to have it verified, I'll quit buying Spyderco knives. I mean they're okay and all, but not worth that much trouble to own.
 
I'm not aware of a LW in S30V but I'm not an expert. I'm surprised that nobody who really knows has responded.
 
Just looked closer at the Spyderco logo in the scale, the "beak" of the Spyderco also appears incorrectly moulded?
The small raised area in the "beak is ever so slightly off center to the right, but so are the ones on Spyderco, Blade HQ, Knives Ship Free, and Knife Center websites.

I and my daughter, whose place on the spectrum causes her to fixate on even the tiniest of details being different, have gone over images of every lightweight M2 from "legitimate" sources on the net I can find and I see no differences in even the smallest of the details of the scales and neither has she. But the scales would be the least of my concerns as the easiest thing for them to make perfect in a counterfeit just making a mold of legit scals rather than creating a mold from scratch and tryin to nail it

I'm really no longer worried and no longer suspecting it as a fake at this point all details ball bearing lock etc., considered. Yet I'm still going to stop by the Spuderco booth at Blade and see what they say. I hope, and this level of detail it isn't a fake, because if with this level of precision, it turns out to be fake, then I'm going to assume there is just as good a chance all the other Spydercos my daughter and I have bought the last few years are all fake, throw them all in the garbage to keep from promoting counterfeiting, and write off Spyderco as being a non-viable knife company to support.
 
Just looked closer at the Spyderco logo in the scale, the "beak" of the Spyderco also appears incorrectly moulded?
If so I would have expected Spyderco to say so when directly asked that question, instead of citing how many changes have been made in steel types, grind angles, edge bevels, and scale colors over the years. And if I wanted to know if it was a counterfeit I'd have to send it to them.

Like I said above, I'll find out at Blade if it's a fake or not and whether or not I'm done with Spyderco.
 
throw them all in the garbage
Don't do that, you paid hard earned money for them. In the event they may or may not be fake at the end of the day, do they cut? Do they lock up securely? Do they hold an edge adequate for your needs? If so use them for the tools that they are and enjoy them. And in the future only buy from reputable dealers so you know you are getting what you expect and your money is going to a company that obviously is making something good enough worth copying.
 
Don't do that, you paid hard earned money for them. In the event they may or may not be fake at the end of the day, do they cut? Do they lock up securely? Do they hold an edge adequate for your needs? If so use them for the tools that they are and enjoy them. And in the future only buy from reputable dealers so you know you are getting what you expect and your money is going to a company that obviously is making something good enough worth copying.
I understand your sentiment, but you're missing the point I'm trying to make. I will carry the ones I have I don't doubt any of the ones we have, including this one now, it looks and behaves in no ways that make me think counterfeit. And though I bought this one from a friend who has a resale shop, the delicas my daughter and I carry were bought directly from a legit distributor that many knife dealers by from. That's why if Spyderco says this one is fake as precise as all the details are , then I will never be able to buy with confidense that any others haven't been swapped out anywhere in the retail stream even from "legit" sources including an employee at Spyderco or at the distributors. Employment at a company, any company, doesn't presuppose morals and scrupples. And no I wouldn't throw the ones we have away I guess, too sentimental from our adventres at this point, but they would certainly become the last Spydercos I bought.
 
Had to edit out the part about the rivets, I've since seen other US made ones with them
 
It could be that Spyderco wondered if a blade swap had occurred, and wanted to examine that in hand before declaring anything from images. It's unlikely with rivets, but not impossible.
 
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