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Manix 2 out-of-the-box issues

I have a Manix 2 G10 that had some blade wiggle. Turned out it just needed to be broken in so the ball settled. The blade was not as sharp as a Delica I just got, but no biggie, I know how to sharpen.

Personally I do not understand people that collect and use knives that do not know how to sharpen them. Sharpening is 50% of this hobby.
 
My suggestion is to stop buying new knives until you pick up a sharpener and learn to use it. I am not saying that you should be satisfied receiving a dull knife but if you had a good sharpener and knew how to use it this would have seemed much less of a big deal. The first thing I do with ANY new knife is sharpen it because I can always take the factory edge to another level in just a couple of minutes. I highly recommend the sharpmaker...a great tool for about half the price of your last two spyderco purchases.
 
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. Almost every time someone posts issues like these, they have bought off of Amazon.

And I've bought 35+ knives off Amazon in the past year and I've never had an issue with any of them. Well, actually with one ZT which was exchanged for another knife without hassle.

To OP, you are obviously new to the knife knut asylum. Don't take what I'm saying as a criticism, please. But you should own some type of sharpening device and a set of Torx wrenchs. Both are absolutely necessary for knife enthusiasts. With both these tools you will be able to correct minor annoyances like knives that are not sharp enough, slightly off center blades and too tight or too loose pivots.
 
I am not sure where this idea that I don't know how to sharpen is coming from. I welcome criticism, but I already addressed the reason why I am not able to sharpen it myself some time ago, being a lack of tools, not a lack of knowledge. Since that somehow registered as ignorance on how to sharpen, let me go ahead and elaborate a bit:

I had Japanese waterstones, an EdgePro, and the rods (but not the stand) to a Sharpmaker all in a nice big plastic container before I moved. I have no idea where that plastic container went to in the midst of the move, but I'm all unpacked now and can't find it anywhere. The only reason I cited a dull edge here as a reason for my shipment to their warranty department was because a) it was inconsistent with other people's description of their factory edge and b) I figured that since they offer a sharpening service, one might as well take advantage of it for my current (and lamentable) lack of equipment.

While I'm new to Spyderco as a brand, I've been collecting knives for about 15 years now. I came for a nod in the right direction regarding the warranty service and other viable options, which I received. I appreciate the advice and feedback; I've contacted the retailer, and I'm gonna go ahead and invest in some Torx keys. Thanks, all, I appreciate the quick response. :D
 
Seems to me that the Golden Colorado quality control is slacking. Too many of these issues lately.

I noticed this as well. I've never had any problems with Spyderco's at all. This weekend I handled a new Manix XL at my local gunshop and it was rediculously dull and on top of that the blade was off center. I traded for a new PM2 from a family member today and it was too dull to cut paper. I took it anyway but it was disasppointing.
 
I noticed this as well. I've never had any problems with Spyderco's at all. This weekend I handled a new Manix XL at my local gunshop and it was rediculously dull and on top of that the blade was off center. I traded for a new PM2 from a family member today and it was too dull to cut paper. I took it anyway but it was disasppointing.
Off center blades are not totally uncommon with any production brand. None are 100% but the dull issue is something different. Unless you buy a knife from a retailer and be sure that it is nib as in never handled, you never know how a blades been treated. The one you handled at the lgs could have been dulled by some one who looked at it before you did. A razor edge can be dulled very easily if drug across the right surface. The one you bought from a friend could have been used to make a few cuts on something to test is edge or cutting ability. At the local retailer fairly close to me (SMKW) they will hand you a blade from under the glass counter to look at and admire but if you decide to buy one they take the display back from you and hand you a new one from under the counter that's never been opened. I don't think I've ever held a display knife at that store that was shaving sharp no matter the brand. They get dulled from all the handling.
 
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