Marcus Lin New York Special

Steven, am I correct that a few earlier New York Specials (Eric Levinson ring a bell?) that went to Japan had a slightly different style handle? I always kinda hate to bring up little stuff like this because it really confuses the issue, since so many of us continue to be confused about all that goes into the "Loveless mystique". Something I read somewhere. Anyway, this may be a Dave Ellis question, actually.

Bob Betzner

EDIT: Marcus, not trying to hijack your thread, just think that some expansion of content may help. Tell me to shut up, otherwise, LOL.
 
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SharpByCoop said:
It's a superb knife and VERY close in profile. Grinds are fantastic and so is fitment. The sheath is as good as Bob's and a near duplicate.

Be proud!

That said, look closely at about a dozen of these originals on my site.

The most visible change I see is; Bob does not allow the handle to grow out much wider towards the end. And that might be the sole reason which prompts STeven's comment.

You are getting solid feedback. Embrace it. :D

Coop
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It's the grinds, Marcus's are crisper, and the plunge is different....the blade shape is slightly pointier with less belly. The center ridge on a Loveless is there on Marcus's knife, but it is different The "guard" has a different contour to it, and the handle is as you say, Coop.

It sucks that Marcus got defensive, but that's life. Don't know how it could've been said differently.....gave him feedback privately on the Wilderness knife that I own....it ain't all sunshine and flowers.:)

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Marcus- I think it's a beautiful piece!!! I admittedly have zero expertise in the nuances that STeven is writing of, nor am I plunking down hard earned $$$.... so I wouldn't even begin to argue about how true it is or isn't to an original.

But I most certainly think it's a fantastic knife!!! :)

As for STeven.... he and I have become friends over the years, but like you, I had a hard time with him when we first were getting to know each other. The "filter" that most people have, was either never put in place, or STeven simply turned it off at some point in his life. ;)

I COMPLETELY understand how you feel. People say, "it's not personal..." When there's no way in hell you can pour your heart, sweat, and tears into a knife and then not take something personal that has a negative connotation. I truly do get that. It's not like your hawking a used car or something you just found out in the garage.

But even with that in mind, STeven usually has good intentions with his thoughts, even if they might not seem that way at the time. He and I had a few spats in the beginning and sometimes you just have to say, "Okay, f-you... you don't like, you're not buying it... let's move on." ;) :D

He has picked on me for things I didn't get at the time, but later on realized that it made me improve whatever it was.

So my advice would be to realize STeven's filter is broken and that if you really want to make true to the original Loveless style knives, he is a wealth of information to help you get there. And it hurts a lot less if he informs you of these things before you finish them! ;)

Again, fantastic knife!!! :cool: :thumbup: :)
 
Thank you all for your encouragement -especially Steven (in your own way ;)) ... I realize I was being overly emotional earlier today and I apologize.

I received some really depressing news this morning that just broke my heart. Usually I love critique as it helps me to make a better knife ... I'm just not my usual self right now, sorry for the bs.

Thanks everyone. :thumbup:
 
One can only tell so much from photos, however you look as though you are progressing at a very good pace. Your fit/finish looks very good. Your precise adherence to the Loveless design will become easier with time if that's what you are ultimately aiming for.

Tomorrow's another day :thumbup: :)
 
After a phone call I realize I need to clarify my post.

It was NOT to say STeven is an abrasive dick.

It WAS to say he doesn't put things delicately, and if you can accept that... THEN you will see he is a wealth of knowledge that can and will help you get even better at staying true to the Loveless knives (IF that's what you are ultimately after). :)
 
NickWheeler said:
After a phone call I realize I need to clarify my post.

It was NOT to say STeven is an abrasive dick.

It WAS to say he doesn't put things delicately, and if you can accept that... THEN you will see he is a wealth of knowledge that can and will help you get even better at staying true to the Loveless knives (IF that's what you are ultimately after). :)
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Thank you for the encouragement Nick, I really appreciate it. :thumbup: Man, I just noticed that I e-mailed you for advice around this time 5 years ago!! Time flies when you're having fun. :)

As for Steven, reminds me of the other day when we were at a pizza place and there was a bunch of kids at a table behind us ... one kid told the other one "Jake, you know everything!" He replied "Yes I do." Then another kid asked "What's 10 times 11?" Jake confidently replied "1 million."

Point is: Confidence goes a long way, but I appreciate the feedback. :thumbup::D
 
flatgrinder said:
As for Steven, reminds me of the other day when we were at a pizza place and there was a bunch of kids at a table behind us ... one kid told the other one "Jake, you know everything!" He replied "Yes I do." Then another kid asked "What's 10 times 11?" Jake confidently replied "1 million."

Point is: Confidence goes a long way, but I appreciate the feedback. :thumbup::D
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Point is, that kid thought he knew everything, and didn't. I know what I know. Some people take the feedback and run with it, some don't.

You got some bad news the other day, and the timing is bad......I empathize.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
NickWheeler said:
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It was NOT to say STeven is an abrasive dick.

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I Always thought STeven was a Slippery dick.
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Marcus, I just saw this thread. Beautiful Knife!:)

Steven talked about the handle being wrong, but the Blade right.

Well, there has been a crap load of different handle shapes, though subtle on the Loveless NYS from Bob. Including the thicker at the rear. Yep! I got Pictures!

The blade being right, isn't, and is the part that drew my attention. The one of the most difficult grinds in the Loveless line-up of Knives is the Double hollow ground Bowie shape of the bevels. It isn't there. I'm not talking about the angled clip at the top, but the actual grind line down the center of the blade. Not many can pull it off.

Give me a call one night, and well cover it in detail,a and how to do it.
Your going to like this!!;)

On soldering, Steve Johnson and I have been working on a new technique in soldering. I had some ideas, and Steve has been trying them as well. I think we have finally put the old flux out gassing, and subsequent corrosion problem to bed.

It has been the bane of the Custom Makers for Decades.

I plan on posting the new technique here for all Makers to benefit from.

Like all great discoveries, it is so simple its' ridiculous!:cool:

Once again Marcus, a beautiful knife. Just one major touch remaining.

Mike
 
There were seven of the original, Green Micarta NY Specials. They all had snaps in the handles and corresponding snaps in the sheaths.
Dave
 
irbailey said:
'Marcus isn't close to Loveless yet':eek:
I beg to differ.
I reckon if a picture of this knife and a Loveless NYS had been posted together with the makers marks blanked out it would be interesting to see who could 'spot the Loveless'.
Or am I missing something here?:confused:

Ian
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Yep! But then again, most do! Collectors as well as Makers. I can tell you this, it's a damed nice Knife on its own merit!



Mike
 
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