Marlin 1895GS lever action in 45-70

Yes, but Yvsa owns a 357 lever and maybe even a 30/30 I could be wrong about the 30/30.. but what you wanna bet he has owned a 30/30?

My reason was because I like the idea of a slow moving, large weight, large diameter projectile. Classic Lever ideal.

munk
 
Yep. Sending that 405 grain cast projectile down the bore feels a lot like launching a bus. And it hits like one, too. :D
 
What I like about it is when you hit something it reacts- I shot a stump and pile of debris and things went flying when I first tried it out. Rather like my 45 ACP. I was used to 41 mag's and they mostly just zip through. When I hit a trash pile with the 230 grain ball the can lid flew 8 feet into the air. Boy, I laughed hard.


munk
 
munk said:
Yes, but Yvsa owns a 357 lever and maybe even a 30/30 I could be wrong about the 30/30.. but what you wanna bet he has owned a 30/30?

My reason was because I like the idea of a slow moving, large weight, large diameter projectile. Classic Lever ideal.

munk
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I love lever guns, grew up with a 30-30 Winchester but I like the Marlins better. Barb has a 30-30 Winchester, with a 4 power scope, nice gun but I would rather have a Marlin, already said that ainnit?;)
The reason is all in the action and ejection.
Also grew up with a Walther P-38, still love them too, suppose I always will even though there's a lot of reasons to own other 9mms.
A P-38 in .45 ACP would be the Cat's Pajamas now wouldn't it?:D

Y'all are making me want a Marlin .45-70 now.:rolleyes: :p ;)
What's the difference in the Guide Gun and other models of the Marlin .45-70 anyway?
Chris has the GS; is there a difference between the GS and the GG if there is such a designation? Which one can shoot the cast bullets and why can't both of them do equally well with the same bullets?
What kind of range does the .45-70 have say in comparison to the .308?
Which would be the better bear gun and why?
See whatcha y'all went and did now...:rolleyes: :p :eek: :D
 
Yvsa, I forgot what its called, the 45/70 Cowboy, I think, but Spectre might weigh in and verify for certain, but it has a full length mag tube and the same rifling as the Guide, but with a 24" barrel. I own one in 45 Colt and one in 38/55 and I love them. Course, one in 45/70 is going to weigh a lot fully loaded. Take about loading on Sunday and shooting all week...
But it is going to handle recoil a lot better.

If you get one of the old Micro Groove Marlin's in 45/70 you can find them dirt cheap in pawn; the owners traded up for the GG. I own the microgroove one and it is great with jacketed ammo.

I bet you could get one for 200 or so. I wouldn't pay more than three, and I'd want a good sight and sling on it for that. I've got a leather sling on mine. This is a old big bore lever, for goodness sakes; it demands leather.


munk
 
munk said:
I wouldn't pay more than three, and I'd want a good sight and sling on it for that. I've got a leather sling on mine. This is a old big bore lever, for goodness sakes; it demands leather.

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Hell Munk, I've got leather on my .357 Carbine.;) I don't know how I would do with a peep sight with my dayumed trifocal's but I do alright with the buckhorn sights on the carbine and the sights on the AK-47. I used to do quite well with the peep on the M-14, qualified expert with it but I was one of the old country boys that had grown up shootin.
Just never had shot many high powered guns is all, but hell they had us training with .22s at the Armory when I was in the guard. Those were some dayumed heavy barreled .22s but I don't recall much more about them than that, except that it was hard too miss with one.:rolleyes:

I'll have to Google Marlin and see what they're going for new I guess. About half serious about this now and don't know what I would do with another gun, especially a .45-70, but like knives a guy just can't have too many guns.:rolleyes: :D
 
Yeah, I can shoot the M1 Garand and 14 OK, just not as good as other types of iron sights.


munk
 
I actually had two of the Marlins. I sold the 1895 when I went in the Army, and sold my 1895G a few months ago, when I was raising money for my super-FAL. (Along with a 1917, M1 Carbine, Kahr, PSS, Model 657, Model 65, and Sub-9!)

I'll now confess that I, too, had mounted a small shotgun optic to my Marlin. :o (Think it was a 1.5-4x30.) With Georgia Arms 300 grain HPs, I could shoot just over MOA! Damn accurate from a lever gun with factory ammo. Other shooter reports seem to show similar accuracy. Hit deer like the hand of god, but without excessive damage to the meat, just a nice, large hole all the way through.

John
 
I remember that sale, Spectre.

Wondering how one of the pistol red dot sights would work for the lever? Pretty good, I'm thinking.


munk
 
I hunt with a Browning 1885 in 45-70, a great cartridge !! The 300 grain jacketed are all you need for deer.For bigger stuff you can find good loads such as the PMC 350 @ 2100...The Marlins now have Ballard rifling . The microgroove is accurate with cast bullets, contrary to many comments but since the grooves are shallow bullet hardness and diameter are more critical. Marlin has also dropped the ported barrels though you could have it done by Magna-port if you insist. For those unfamiliar with the cartridge -you don't have to make a magnum out of it ,the 300s at 1800 work very well. A deer hit with one doesn't go far .
 
Is your Browning an original or reproduction? I like the new versions, cause I feel I could use one hard. And the loads hotter, besides, thanks to modern metalurgy.

munk
 
Spectre said:
I actually had two of the Marlins. I sold the 1895 when I went in the Army, and sold my 1895G a few months ago, when I was raising money for my super-FAL. (Along with a 1917, M1 Carbine, Kahr, PSS, Model 657, Model 65, and Sub-9!)

I'll now confess that I, too, had mounted a small shotgun optic to my Marlin. :o (Think it was a 1.5-4x30.) .

John
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We have folks that are obsessive about Durba.
Folks that are obsessive over Dubya.
Folks that loudly proclaim their favorite kuhk to be the best.

IMHO if you scope a lever action it shoul only be on a scout type mount. I have one about 1/2 way done and put my aimpoint on it fall of 03, and it worked like a champ. Pretty accurate and it didn't screw up the balance too much either. I need 3 more Leupold scout scopes and I'll be happy for awhile.

My AR is set up with a scout mount,
My AK is too
My hunting Rifle
My 30-30. (needs backup sights and a permanent scope)

Life is good :)

Now a 10-22 will be my next target :)


Spectre,

I feel your pain, I've had to lighten the load a couple of times and it is a painful thing to do. Hopefully they went to good homes. I don't think I could have given up a 65 though....
 
45,

It was a 3"...
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Oh, well. If it's important enough, I'll get another, someday.

J
 
I hear that the stock design makes the felt recoil even worse!!1 :eek:

I'd get one of those Decelerator pads from pachmyr (sp??) and stick it on the butt if it were my gun.
 
I always use factory loads for anything serious. They are more reliable, at least the primers are. I have gotten batches of hard primers (CCI) or unreliable ones (Remington).
I have a Marlin 1894 in 357, and it is great. BUT - it will not eat Winchester brass. It always chokes on the stuff, and then you have a one shot rifle.
I would try any ammo on the range - first - before taking it out for serious use.
The Winchester brass ties up my gun. It works great with Remington 158 gr. HP - It is most accurate with that load, and gets a "whopping" 1850 fps (on the chrono).
You can get higher velocities with lighter bullets, but if the brass is Winchester, you have a 1-shot gun. I have found other shoulder arms can be sensitive to ammo brand, like my Rem. pump shotgun.

I always try stuff out before taking it afield.
 
If you guys like lever guns, check out www.wildwestguns.com for some of the sweetest lever actions anywhere. I don't really have any need for a take down gun, but Jim West makes a 45-70 bush pilots gun that takes down and can be carried basically in a briefcase.
 
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