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My love for the balisong comes from martial arts. I have devoted my life to Taekwondo.

Are there any other martial artist here at the forum?

If so which were you interested in first the balisong or martial arts?

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Chung San

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"A new kind of balisong store"
 
I was a wrestler in high school for 4 years, went to state as a senior, didn't place. After that I trained in Muchado (brazillian) juijitsu under Glenn Barber. I've participated in one submission tournament (took second place). Since then I've been getting out of shape sitting at a computer at work.
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I've visited the AMC located in Bellevue/Redmond WA and it is a great place. I plan on training there soon. A few of my friends already do, I'm just lazy.
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BTW, if you know who Dan "The Beast" Severn (from the UFC) is... Josh Barnett, a fighter from AMC, broke his arm.
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AMC is run by Matt Hume and there are other great fighters that train there, Kim Mason, etc, etc.
 
If your looking for a place to train try:

- ATA Taekwondo
- Taekwondo USA
- Karate for Kids

There are also several other names. The organization is the American Taekwondo Association. They teach a lot more than just Taekwondo. They are the largest martial arts organization in the world. They have 1,200 schools in the country, and schools in 30 other countries. Their website is www.ataonline.com

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Chung San

Butterfly Knife Exchange
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"A new kind of balisong store"
 
ATA?

My dad works for the national headquarters for the ATA. His name is Jay Kohl, has the title of master. Tell me if you know him.

Unscarred1
 
Hi!

I haven't been as devoted to my training lately but hopefully i will be into it really soon!

I've trained wing chun kung-fu since i was 16 (i'm now 28) before that i trained karate (wado-ryu) and judo.
A few years ago i started to train, modern arnis and other variations of FMA (like ecrima, kali-sikaran) we also do some ground fighting/grappling.

MA is great fun and being able to use knives combined with the choosen style is just even more fun
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Originally posted by Unscarred1:
ATA?

My dad works for the national headquarters for the ATA. His name is Jay Kohl, has the title of master. Tell me if you know him.

Unscarred1

I have never had the pleasure of meeting your father, but I have seen him at national events. Master Kohl is the National Chairman of Tournaments.

My name is Corey Kosciuszko I'm a 3rd Degree Black Belt and the owner of a Karate for Kids in Niles, Ohio.

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Chung San

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"A new kind of balisong store"

[This message has been edited by ChungSan (edited 09-17-2000).]
 
Taekwondo came first. It is enjoying it's first year as an Olympic event. Tune in to NBC September 27, 28, 29, & 30th to see the action. Go to www.nbcolympics.com to check the schedule for your favorite sport. Sorry, Balisong is not yet listed.

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Aloha
 
I have a black belt too. I don't know if it's a third degree, but it has five holes in it for the buckle(I don't tie knots in it). I'm not sure if it is japanese or brazilian. If I had to take a guess I would say it's made in pakistan in a traditional american style. It says fossil on it, so if anyone knows more info, I'd appreciate it. I enjoy integrating it with my knives. I use it to hold the sheath in place.
 
I currently study at API in Portland with Guru Kurt Goodwin. It's mostly Kali and Arnis, but he throws in influences from a lot of things. I don't consider myself a kickboxer, I haven't got the stamina for it, but I usually stick around for their class too since the skills are valuable and the workout is killer.

While often associates with the Filipino Combative Arts such as Kali and Arnis, once you open it, a balisong is just a knife and it can go into any blade martial art form.

A closed balisong also makes a good punch weight and a good striking weapon that also fits well into many different systems, but seems especially well-suited for the Filipino styles.

Balisong manipulation is a separate art in and of itself and is largely non-combative. Once you get past a few of the most basic openings, all of the fancy stuff you see accomplished balisong artists do is just for fun.

You don't have to be a martial artist to practice balisong manipulation and to become an accomplished balisong artist. Likewise, you don't have to be very accomplished at balisong manipulation to use one combatively.

If you ask me, the balisong as a combative weapon is a bit like the muzzle-loading pistol. Make no mistake: a muzzle-loading pistol is an effective weapon fully capable of killing your opponent. But, in the light of "modern" revolvers and semi-automatic pistols, you just don't see many folks serious about defensive handgunning carrying 'em anymore. It's not that you can't get 'em. You can. Several companies are even manufacturing new ones at reasonable prices. It's not that they're illegal. In many cases, they are more legal than "modern" firearms. (BTW, I put the term "modern" in quotes because most "modern" firearms are based on designs that are over a hundred years old.) So, if muzzle-loading pistols are effective, available, and legal, why don't more defensive handgunners choose them? Well, the "modern" alternatives are just so much better.

When I consider the balisong, even the BM42, in the light of the many fine "tactical" folders offered by the likes of Benchmade, Microtech, and Spyderco, the balisong looks a little obsolete. I'm sorry, Clay, but I can open my AFCK faster than you can open a balisiong, and you don't even want to take on my Spike or my Halo. This explains why the majority of martial artists have lost interest in the balisong.

But, remember that I said that muzzle-loading pistols are still readily available, still in production even though few if any people still carry them defensively? Apparently there are still plenty of people who enjoy them for other purposes. How much more this should be true for the balisong when there is a whole other art associated with them which is so much fun unto itself.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
I could not agree more on the obsolescence of balisong. I love all of my bali, but when it counts, i need something faster. In my opinion and personal usage, i carry both a fine tactical folder and a bali. The bali is used when i feel my life is not in danger and is only threatened, in which case the fancy bali manipulations usually scares them off; but when it counts, if it ain't a .45, i need an auto or a really good tactical. However i train almost exclusively with a bali, because ain't no tactical will work your fingers like a bali, and finger strength is almost a must for any tactical situation. But it all comes down to personal taste, cause believe me, i don't care if you got a Halo, a custom made auto, or even a spike launher, nothing deploys faster and more effectively than a .45 (or 9mm, .40, 10mm or heck even a .22lr). Live and learn and than get shot.

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Peter Bui
Some guy in California just ate a worm and boy is it yummy.
 
To be honest, I don't carry anything extra for self-defense purposes.

I agree with the balisong being obsolete for self-defense. It would be like pulling out a three sectional staff to defend yourself from a gun.

For most weapons it is the art form that makes them so great. It is wonderful to learn techniques with weapons that were invented thousands of years ago.

Please don't get me wrong though there are still plenty of weapons that are good for modern self-defense. I guess I just like my hands and feet the best.

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Chung San

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"A new kind of balisong store"
 
Originally posted by epigram79:
I have a black belt too. I don't know if it's a third degree, but it has five holes in it for the buckle(I don't tie knots in it). I'm not sure if it is japanese or brazilian. If I had to take a guess I would say it's made in pakistan in a traditional american style. It says fossil on it, so if anyone knows more info, I'd appreciate it. I enjoy integrating it with my knives. I use it to hold the sheath in place.

It isn't what color your belt is, it is the skills you know. Where you got your belt might give us a good idea of your skills, but the belt is simply to tell what you've gone through. I could go buy a black belt right now but that isn't going to increase my skill one bit.

Unless you know how to choke someone with your belt.
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Natedogg, it was a joke! I used to take shorin-ryu when I was younger though. I was not acting ignorant. By the way Nate, it's good to see another wrestler in the forums!
 
LOL, I had a strange feeling it was a joke.
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(BTW, drinking and posting is not good)

I've made a promise to start training again. Thursday I start!
 
epigram79, I got your joke... I thought it was pretty funny. Natedogg: choking someone with a belt... heh heh.

Anyone here do Kung Fu? I did for about a year or so when I was little, and I remember using a couple of different weapons (nunchakus, staff, etc.).
 
Well, I guess I will share my bit of martial arts experience. The most training I have had was in Aikido. I trained for around a year, but recently the last few months have been off and on. I have not been for about 3 months. I really enjoyed it actually and was having fun most of the time but recently was not having enough time to effectively fit it in (to get full/enough experience/training) also it was not as enjoyable as it once was. The only weapons that we learned and practiced with were the Jo and the Bokken. We also did knife defusing techniques (but no knife fighting). Maybe I will get back into it...

mmtmatrix
 
mmtmatrix, Maybe its time to try a new martial arts school. What about classes really bored you?

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Chung San

Butterfly Knife Exchange
www.butterflyknifeexchange.com
"A new kind of balisong store"

[This message has been edited by ChungSan (edited 09-20-2000).]
 
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