Mean Street question... First post here

[Warbow150]

This will be my first Moose and Grizz hunt. I still need to check the regs, and see if I can hunt with my bow. I've been archery hunting for quite a few years now, and would really like to hunt Moose with my bow. I don't know if it is even legal, but I'm not sure I have a big enough "set" to hunt Grizz with a bow though lol... If not, I will be going with my two favorite rifles. You can see what they are in my user name

You'll need a bow hunters safety course for the AK certification, or the equivalent from another state. No worries on taking either with a bow, it's done all the time. I believe the current minimums are 50 lbs for the bow, 300 grain arrow and no barbs. But, like you already said, be sure to check the regs. Brownies take longer to skin and you have to be careful because the blood is nasty. (Infectious, that is, so don't get it in any cuts on your hands or anything like that.) You don't have to pack out the meat, no one really eats them. Moose are no big deal to process, just a pain to hump out.

 

[Garth Reckner]

Man that would be a dream hunt. Good luck.

Garth

 

[plue]

The AMS is a great blade. I got one for my old man in the double cut finish, he doesn't go anywhere without it now!

 

[338375]

:thumbup:The BAD is Bad to the Bone! it's got a special heat treat with higher hardness. Great slicer



Even got me a custom one





The Pork Shank and CABS are pretty nice too:thumbup:



Here's a pic for size comparison, you got the Pork Shank, CABS, AMS, and Magnum Bear Cub

I really like the scales on your custom :thumbup: Thanks for the great comparison shots. I was surprised to see that the Magnum Bear Cub was a lot smaller than the AMS... The CABS is also a great looking knife, and could be another option...

I can now see why the Busse's are so popular. I've only been looking at them for a little while, and I've already found 4 different models I like

You'll need a bow hunters safety course for the AK certification, or the equivalent from another state. No worries on taking either with a bow, it's done all the time. I believe the current minimums are 50 lbs for the bow, 300 grain arrow and no barbs. But, like you already said, be sure to check the regs. Brownies take longer to skin and you have to be careful because the blood is nasty. (Infectious, that is, so don't get it in any cuts on your hands or anything like that.) You don't have to pack out the meat, no one really eats them. Moose are no big deal to process, just a pain to hump out.

Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. We don't even have a bow hunting safety course in Oregon lol.. I have my hunter safety card that I got when I was 13.
That was almost 40 years ago All of my archery equipment should be legal then. My new Mathews max's out at 72 pounds, but I am only shooting it at 62#, because of a shoulder injury. It is still smokin fast, even at 62#... I had never heard that their blood is infectious. That's great info to know ahead of time. I don't want to learn that the hard way...

Man that would be a dream hunt. Good luck.

Garth

Thanks Garth. It certainly will be. I'm fortunate to have connections that will make a hunt like this easier, and less expensive. Otherwise I would probably never go.

The AMS is a great blade. I got one for my old man in the double cut finish, he doesn't go anywhere without it now!

 

[Busto]

Interesting.........I spent my time just north of Anchor Point at Stariski Creek just south of Ninilchik called "Homer" home....What Russ said is the truth about the hides on Moose and Bear...1095 has been around a long time and like you I still have some in my arsenal. I think the key is to have multiple blades so you don't have to stop and buff the edge. When I did moose I used a small chainsaw to quarter the carcass to make it easier for packing. I wish that back then I had the AMS or the Steak Knives for the processing!!!!


We are going to the Farewell Burn area. My best friends mom and step dad lived in Alaska for years. He was a plumber, and they had some great log cabins just North of Anchor Point, at Whiskey Gulch... My buddy and I went up and stayed a week with them about 9 years ago. We didn't hunt though. It was just a fishing trip...

 

[RussMo]

Guys y'all are going to have fun. Been all in the McGrath, Nikoli area and Farewell is not that far. When y'all are on the N.W. side of the Alaska Range I'll be on the N.E. side over by Tok. Busto, HEY that's my trick as well with the chainsaw. Makes quick work of quartering and loading and less time hovering over a gut pile and meat. Cause we know the long your there the sooner the varmints come in on you i.e. bear & wolves. Just like fast food, GET IT and GO!!! Oh and that was exactly what I was referring to regarding multiple blades, less time on the kill.

338375 & Busto, have fun Brothers and be safe!!! Take plenty of picks cause y'all should have one hell of a great hunt. Oh and don't forget the game bags. Oh I did that before but had blue tarps. I always like the pepper rub the meat during transit as well.

GOOD HUNTING!!!

 

[Gusbuster]

I really like the scales on your custom :thumbup: Thanks for the great comparison shots. I was surprised to see that the Magnum Bear Cub was a lot smaller than the AMS... The CABS is also a great looking knife, and could be another option...

I can now see why the Busse's are so popular. I've only been looking at them for a little while, and I've already found 4 different models I like

Yeah the Magnum Bear Cub isn't very Magnum. It's actually pretty tiny. The CABS are very nice. It's got a blade length of 4 1/4" and 0.14" thickness. The Anni Mean Streat is about 3.5" and o.17". You might also consider the 3.5" Steak knife made of Elmax. It is 0.095" thick, and is great for processing game according to a post by Garth. Here is a link to that post:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...eak-Knife-Review?highlight=busse+steak+knives

 

[Andy the Aussie]

I can't believe no one has mentioned a B4 as yet....

 

[338375]

Interesting.........I spent my time just north of Anchor Point at Stariski Creek just south of Ninilchik called "Homer" home....What Russ said is the truth about the hides on Moose and Bear...1095 has been around a long time and like you I still have some in my arsenal. I think the key is to have multiple blades so you don't have to stop and buff the edge. When I did moose I used a small chainsaw to quarter the carcass to make it easier for packing. I wish that back then I had the AMS or the Steak Knives for the processing!!!! .

I've heard of others using a chainsaw too. My production knives in 1095 would work just fine, but the edge retention isn't what I want for this hunt.
As you said, I want to be able to start and finish without having to touch up edges. Perhaps a custom in 1096 with a little higher HT would work better, but there are certainly better steels available.
It sounds like we were very close, in the same area. Their cabins are on the west side of the highway, overlooking the inlet

Guys y'all are going to have fun. Been all in the McGrath, Nikoli area and Farewell is not that far. When y'all are on the N.W. side of the Alaska Range I'll be on the N.E. side over by Tok. Busto, HEY that's my trick as well with the chainsaw. Makes quick work of quartering and loading and less time hovering over a gut pile and meat. Cause we know the long your there the sooner the varmints come in on you i.e. bear & wolves. Just like fast food, GET IT and GO!!! Oh and that was exactly what I was referring to regarding multiple blades, less time on the kill.

338375 & Busto, have fun Brothers and be safe!!! Take plenty of picks cause y'all should have one hell of a great hunt. Oh and don't forget the game bags. Oh I did that before but had blue tarps. I always like the pepper rub the meat during transit as well.

GOOD HUNTING!!!

Cool... Thanks. We use pepper too on our deer and elk. Our archery season starts in August, and ends in October, so it's usually hot, and it helps keep the damn bees off the meat.

Yeah the Magnum Bear Cub isn't very Magnum. It's actually pretty tiny. The CABS are very nice. It's got a blade length of 4 1/4" and 0.14" thickness. The Anni Mean Streat is about 3.5" and o.17". You might also consider the 3.5" Steak knife made of Elmax. It is 0.095" thick, and is great for processing game according to a post by Garth. Here is a link to that post:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...eak-Knife-Review?highlight=busse+steak+knives

Great picture. It seems the steak knives are very popular. They would work great for boning out a critter

I can't believe no one has mentioned a B4 as yet....

Great pictures Andy... :thumbup:

 

[voracious1]

This is a great thread thanks for stopping in Mike!
So what ammo do you use in your (I assume) Win mag and H+H?

 

[338375]

This is a great thread thanks for stopping in Mike!
So what ammo do you use in your (I assume) Win mag and H+H?

Thanks Jody. Thanks again for your offer the other day... Very cool :thumbup:

I have a couple different 338 rounds. My favorite is a Federal Premium load, with a 250 grain Nosler Partition. The Partition isn't exactly cutting edge technology, but they have worked well for a lot of years. The other plus is, I have owned 6 different 338's, and this load has shot very well in all of them, except one...
I still have a couple older boxes of Federal Premium 338's that are loaded with 210 grain Winchester Fail Safes. In my Pre-64 Winchester Super Grade 338, these things are a freakin laser. I still have a target from the first time I shot these. I put 9 rounds into a tight group of just a hair under 3/4 inch at 100 yards.
Actually every 338 I have owned, has shot 1 inch groups or better, except one. That was an early Weatherby Mark V Deluxe. It was absolutely gorgeous...
But, it wouldn't shot worth a crap, no matter what I put in it. I even ran some hand loads through it, when I was still reloading. Nope. No good
I had the head spacing checked and it was fine. I played with the bedding, and that didn't help...
That particular rifle was a p.o.s. When they drilled the holes for the ring bases, they got them a little out of line. I didn't realize it until I mounted the bases, then it was very obvious. It had to be something in the barrel, that was causing the accuracy problem. When I say the accuracy wasn't good, the best I could get out of it was about 2 1/4 inches at 100 yards. It probably wouldn't have bothered a lot of people, because a lot of a lot of people can't shoot 338's very well anyway, but I am very particular about my guns...

The 375 round is also a Federal Premium load, with 300 grain Nosler Partitions. I never found much reason to try other loads for the 375. They work well, and are accurate. Besides, I like Nosler products, and I only live about 1 1/2 miles from the Nosler plant

 

[voracious1]

That sounds like great moose and brown bear meds! I love ballistics and really wish it was more convenient to shoot around here. I have a few good rifles but a two hour drive to a decent range.
You can only hunt with bow and shotgun here in silly New Jersey.

 

[Andy the Aussie]

The 375 round is also a Federal Premium load, with 300 grain Nosler Partitions. I never found much reason to try other loads for the 375. They work well, and are accurate. Besides, I like Nosler products, and I only live about 1 1/2 miles from the Nosler plant

... just about to start working up some handloads for my H&H, starting with Barnes and Woodleigh to see which I settle for. Oh, they are for Cape Buffalo, either should do the business but I will go with which I can get the best accuracy.

 

[voracious1]

Please post the process somewhere Andy maybe here I love that ish!
A soft and a solid?

 

[338375]

That sounds like great moose and brown bear meds! I love ballistics and really wish it was more convenient to shoot around here. I have a few good rifles but a two hour drive to a decent range.
You can only hunt with bow and shotgun here in silly New Jersey.

I wouldn't shoot much either, if I had to drive two hours In the area I live, I can drive about 15 minutes from the house, and shoot out in the desert all day long
There is a very cool range about 30 minutes from my house. It is huge. I can't remember how many acres it covers, but it's a lot..
There is a dedicated pistol range, an area that has full size buildings for the Cowboy action shooters as well as training for LEO's.
There is a 100 yard rifle range that is big enough for a lot of shooters. Then there is another rifle range with targets ranging from 200 yards, out to 1,000 yards That range is fun because at each 100 yard increment, there are full size steel Buffalos

That seems really foreign to me, to think about using a shotgun for deer hunting . Have you tried Archery ? I've been hunting with a bow for awhile now. Next season will be 10 years. I love it. Very challenging... I've had deer and elk 20 feet from me, and they never knew I was there.
It's really cool to be that close, and watch and listen to the animals when they are not alarmed. The bad part is, even though I have been that close, there have been quite a few times that I still couldn't get a clear shot..
On seasons where I don't get anything, the hunt is still fun. I always have a great time with friends camping, and if I get to be close to animals, I still consider myself successful

... just about to start working up some handloads for my H&H, starting with Barnes and Woodleigh to see which I settle for. Oh, they are for Cape Buffalo, either should do the business but I will go with which I can get the best accuracy.

Now I'm jealous I'm really excited about going to Alaska, and consider myself very fortunate, but going to Africa to hunt Cape Buffalo would be even better
Which Barnes bullet are you using ? I've never tried any of the Woodleighs, but have heard good things about them.

 

[Andy the Aussie]

Please post the process somewhere Andy maybe here I love that ish!
A soft and a solid?

.... the single resource I am most short of at the moment is time... I enjoy playing with loads and such but it is time consuming, this job needs doing right however. Both close to solids mate.

Andy

 

[Andy the Aussie]

Which Barnes bullet are you using ? I've never tried any of the Woodleighs, but have heard good things about them.

... starting with 300gn TSX. I am also waiting hear back from the PH to see when ammunition he holds in camp so I can perhaps load a similar projectile in the event that my ammunition does not arrive with me.

 

[338375]

... starting with 300gn TSX. I am also waiting hear back from the PH to see when ammunition he holds in camp so I can perhaps load a similar projectile in the event that my ammunition does not arrive with me.

Good idea.

I would like to go there some day. A good friend on mine was a custom rifle builder. He built very high $$$ rifles for people around the world.
He was also an accomplished hunter, and a long time member of SCI. His passion was Africa, and he went every year. He had taken every animal he legally could, some multiple times, but he had never taken an Elephant. He said he really had no desire.
He was diagnosed with Cancer, and it spread quickly, so on his last trip, the only thing he wanted was an Elephant. He said that way he would know he accomplished everything he could there, before he passed away...

He told me that was the weirdest feeling, pointing a rifle up in the air to shoot an animal lol... He passed away about 1 1/2 years after his last hunt.

Good luck on your hunt...

 

[resinguy]

Mike, just an FYI, some posts here mentioned the CABS; that stands for Choilless Anorexic BOSS Street. The knife could also be had in large choil and small choil versions.

 

[338375]

Mike, just an FYI, some posts here mentioned the CABS; that stands for Choilless Anorexic BOSS Street. The knife could also be had in large choil and small choil versions.

Thanks. Much appreciated. I've always been a little lost, when reading the names of Busse knives lol