Medford Praetorian Ti D2

[facehugger]

Allways a funny experience reading my posts btw. the comments few years later...
I guess such posts may provoke peoples and knifefans, but believe me, thats not the intention at all. Even if i wouldnt be in a forum like that, i would use my edc's the same way and nobody would know or realize it, so thats not the point at all.

Anyways i love knives, guns, etc. im collecting them also and there are pieces i'd never touch them nor for use neither ABuse.

So whatever is, ill have my specs, needings and was heading out long for MY perfect matching tool, now i got it and i still use it!
My opinnion is, to share those experiences with the community by knowing it will polarize peoples, which is really not the idea, but it will happen thats for sure.

There are many peoples having lots of very expensive knives around and they dont even pick them out to use. Which is fully understandable for me, but also not a reason to blame anyone, so with some single knives im able to share informations about the opposite - what a knife is able to withstand.
Some other thing i guess: if one of my knives will be openend for the first time for work - the warranty voids also in mind the knife could/will void too, i'd never ever had a thought about pulling any warranty or something like that.

I guess ONE important thing makes a huge difference btw. my knives and some other guys.
There are peoples around the web who are willingly destroying knives just to show what they're able to withstand or not - i'm using knives to WORK, without any intense to destroying them. At my point of view it makes a big difference, because i (ab)use them for work - others abuse them to destroy them.


So id like to share some more pictures after roundabout 2 years of use of my Praetorian Ti D2.
After those two years i can say: D2 is my personal matching steel, exept maybe Infi, but Jerry wasnt willing to build a folder yet.


PS: the SMF at my view was kind of disapointment for my specs, which does NOT mean it is a bad knife! But the Pohl Force Bravo II was quite a lot tougher, but only compared to my specs/needings...

PPS: no blames about the edge, as longer the EDC is in use than lesser i care about perfection, it shows: use only

 

[d762nato]

Looks well loved to me and quite a bit of sharpening also has taken place. Thanks for the review and update. I'm curious if you have ever tried a cold steel 4max knife out as I hear they are quite tough also.

 

[facehugger]

Well so far, i had about 7 different EDC the past 6-7 years in use.

In descending order (top = best to my specs)
- Busse Team Gemini Medium (only one hardcore mission, but did it perfectly), indestructable
- Medford Praetorian Ti tanto D2, 2 years of excellent service, still in use, indestructable
- Messerkönig Darkstalker mini slim folder N690co (also a very tough knife), almost 2 years of excellent service, almost indestructable, still alive and sold
- Pohl Force Bravo I Survival D2 (best ever had cheap-midrange priced folder), 2 years of excellent service, still alive and sold
- Strider SMF 3/4 stealth in CPM15, 3-4 months of good service - tip cracked
- Zero Tolerance ZT350 in S30V, 3-4 months of good service, was scared to use it harder than i did
- Zero Tolerance ZT801 --> RIP within first few days

Beside collecting lots of knives, i like using my EDC's also to check out wheres the limit of a knife.

CS i didnt had yet, but time will show

Within the next 12-18 months i should get a collector Version of my Praetorian and also a spareblade for my worker unit, but im sure itll support me for a long long time.

 

[facehugger]

So far the spareblade thing will not happen
Tried everything talking to Amy Medford, but it wont happen.

So i think ill have to check out for a knifemaker making me 1-3 custom blades for this one..... (*screaming* JERRY!!!)

 

[d762nato]

Yes it looks like your going to need a new blade as that tanto blade has a recurve going on with all the sharpening it's had thus far. I don't think Busse will be making you a blade any time soon but you could probably find someone willing to make a blade for you around here. I'd have one made out of 3v that seems to be the latest tough knife blade material these days.

 

[facehugger]

Well, D2 fits the bill for me. Never ever had issues with this steel.
I have another new Praetorian in 3v, but i wont use it for that work (yet).

 

[facehugger]

Well after two years of service i had a small issue in the mechanics.

Contatcted Amy Medford to buy spare parts and spoke clearly: this is NOT a warranty issue, ill pay for the parts.

I felt like she really wanted to set up a new blade on my tool, but after all time the folder spend at my side i couldnt let this blade go, once itll have a special place in a showcase to remember and honor its service.

"Why don't you just send us the knive and have us put a new blade on it? It definitley needs it!!!"


So far, meanwhile i used my new G10 Praetorian as sparebuddy and was also very surprised !

Well again once:
Its not my intention destroying the blades at all, i use them as multi-operational-all-in-one-tool.
So i do not care what other peoples try to humiliate or blame me for that - my decision what i do with my posession.
Neither i will blame any manufacturer for anything a blade cant withstand which it wasnt made for.

J85909266
If you dont like it - no ones forcing you to read the thread.
And NO its not only a matter of materialthickness, otherwise my Darkstalker mini slim wouldnt survived the first day...
Its much more than that, and if youre doing work with it like me, youll have to know HOW you do it.

I had this discussion long time ago and many times...

But how many peoples having blades, BUYING blades just in case what they could withstand - but theyll never pick it out of the showcase.

Myself i have over 150 blades, many of them i will never ever pick out for use, i have them as collector and i love them, but i love also my EDC/EDA.


People who cant accept that should now leave the post without watching the next pics
47 days of service while the Ti was waiting for screws.

 

[J85909266]

J85909266
If you dont like it - no ones forcing you to read the thread.
And NO its not only a matter of materialthickness, otherwise my Darkstalker mini slim wouldnt survived the first day...
Its much more than that, and if youre doing work with it like me, youll have to know HOW you do it.

I had this discussion long time ago and many times...

But how many peoples having blades, BUYING blades just in case what they could withstand - but theyll never pick it out of the showcase.

Myself i have over 150 blades, many of them i will never ever pick out for use, i have them as collector and i love them, but i love also my EDC/EDA.

I was being an immature complainer in this thread, man. Looking back on it a couple years later is pretty embarrassing.

I can see that you love your blades and that your use is genuine. I definitely no longer agree with the attitude or insulting tone I had here.

Personally, the kind of knives and uses being discussed aren't something that makes sense for me, but that just means I have no constructive input to offer, and should have just lurked and kept it too myself.

I'm genuinely glad your knife brings you joy and utility. I regret to being a dick to my own community, here.

 

[facehugger]

No problem.
You dont know me, me neither you - so we dont have to fight each other for nothing without knowing each other or their reasons to do something. My intention was just sharing an experience with others that many wont have in their lifetime.

I live in switzerland, working like roundabout 60-80h a week so i my really short thing is time. I try to save time by all things which makes sense, so therefore a one-size-fits-all tool is saving me loads of time.
Its all about economics - when you live in a country where workforce is the most expensive aviable you learn to optimize things.

 

[facehugger]

Well, so far i gladly recieved new spacers and screws for my Ti.

It took really a good scribe to get MKT selling and sending me those parts, as i mentioned at beginning it is NOT a warranty claim, its just needing spare parts.

I was almost loosing patience while trying to get those parts, really.
I can clearly understand that a manufacturer wants to service, maintenance and upgrade his products himself. But in my opinion this wasnt really necessary for two bent screws.
Closely i was about to leave the conversation because it took really quite a lot time for willing to pay four screws and two spacers (spare parts).
Im very happy they fullfilled my request, also to get a tool for seting up the axlescrew for the future.

MTK would not roughly imagine what happend if i could not recieve those tiny spare parts

So therefore my old workhorse is back in action and will help me many times in daily use.

Thanks Greg and Amy for that.

 

[d762nato]

You really use your Medford a lot and hard. It looks like a recurve tanto now from all the sharpening I guess. I can't believe you bent those screws like that. Well it's good to hear Medford took care of you.

 

[palonej]

Great post Joe!


facehugger
Excellent write up!
Joe

I was being an immature complainer in this thread, man. Looking back on it a couple years later is pretty embarrassing.

I can see that you love your blades and that your use is genuine. I definitely no longer agree with the attitude or insulting tone I had here.

Personally, the kind of knives and uses being discussed aren't something that makes sense for me, but that just means I have no constructive input to offer, and should have just lurked and kept it too myself.

I'm genuinely glad your knife brings you joy and utility. I regret to being a dick to my own community, here.

 

[facehugger]

Well the screw-bent action was indeed dumb - i realized that much, much later.
Why? I was so extreme sure that the Praetorian will never ever have any issue (exept surviving my sharpnessgrinds *lol*).
After few days or some small weeks later i took the Ti into my hand and something felt loose on the glassbreaker (oh hell, it works as glassbreaker too, but also for many other things).
Then i tried to take out the breakerscrews and realized that somethings somehow not straigh anymore. It was quite difficult to get those screws out, and took me a while, as i saw them i realized why

Somehow id like to have a new blade on it, but somehow i feel really nostalgic and dont want to change the blade, this "small" titan-steelpiece made a load of good work for me, saved me time and weight (carrying more stuff), so i think it will be more used and one day maybe it gets a special place in my showcase or if Medford wants it as advertising-tool they might have it.