Medium Stockman folders

Gary W. Graley

Gary W. Graley

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Hi folks, while I did have a very nice Ivy Green Case medium Stockman it lost out to the Ivy Green Peanut I had, too many Ivy's for to few pockets, so the medium stockman flew away. Later on the Peanut also left the coop, lovely knives both. I had a larger regular Case Stockman but found for everyday it was just a tad too large, you can see the goldilocks in me coming out can't you ? :) so I still wanted a watch pocket knife and saw a Northwoods stag medium stockman up for sale and picked that up. It just arrived and while a nice looking knife the blades certainly needed some attention in the sharpening dept, which showed up some grinding flaws overall, but, long story short, they did sharpen up and with the D2 steel, which proved to be pretty hard, they took a very nice edge.

Typical G2 style when it comes to stockman knives, I am not partial to a spey blade shape, nor do I like the big hump that the sheepsfoot blade makes of the skyline of the knife when all blades are closed. So, my first job was to turn that spey into a 'Pen blade', doing that allowed clearance to be able to lower the sheepsfoot down into the frame so that it's spine was even with the clip point blade. The nail nick clearance was achieved from grinding down that spey blade into a 'pen blade', otherwise the nick would be blocked. It all worked out fine, the overall look of the knife while closed is a very sleek trim folder, plus it rides in the watchpocket better too. And when using the clip point or the 'pen' blade, you don't have that hump from the sheepsfoot digging into your palm. Now grinding down the kick on the sheepsfoot you will see that the back spring will sink down just a smidgen, but the overall usefulness of the setup, to me, is worth it.

Here are some images of my new Northwoods Stag Medium Stockman folder in D2 steel, made in Gladstone MI.

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pile side had great stag on there too, and you can see how the nail nicks have JUST enough clearance for either blade now. And the sheepsfoot blades spine is even with the clip point's spine.

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All three blades, while the modified spey blade isn't a true pen blade, it's close...

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Very comfortable folder to use, the walk and talk is fairly strong on this, no half stops with this one.

If you have a Medium Stockman, please feel free to post yours in this thread,
G2
 
Nice job, I am jealous that you have the ability to do these modifications to make it "your" knife. Would you mind me asking what kind of equipment you used to do this?

Here is my Stockman

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I like how the secondary blades nest now. Can you show a shot of the backspring?

When you decide to move on from that one, I will gladly take it off your hands. I too find the pen made more useful than a spey.:D
 
Great work on those blades, Gary and a mighty fine looking knife.

I've been enjoying the "Medium" Stockman pattern myself. Or at least one of the many sizes that Case refers to as Medium. This 63090 pattern has ridden in my pocket almost daily for the last two months. When I switch knives it's another 63090 pattern in Harvest Orange. This one comes in at 3 1/4 inches closed and although it's a little bit smaller than the usual 3 5/8 inches that I'm accustomed to, I've discovered that I just might like this size a little better.

I'm a huge fan of Queen's D2 steel. If this knife had that it would be just about perfect but the "as ground" stainless blades are satisfactory for my needs.



 
Nice guys and thanks, for the work I used a Ken Onion Worksharp with the Blade Grinding attachment, and a some water close by to dip the blade in during the mods.

The back spring you can see is sunk down some here in this shot

backspring.jpg~original


The D2 steel seems pretty hard, as the stones I used didn't make it easy to put in the edge bevels, and on the main blade there was a dip in the way the did the initial edge bevel that had to be overcome in order to get her sharp.

G2
 
Looks like a good modification job. Thanks for showing it. I am having trouble figuring out how a sheepfoot blade digs into your palm. What position would you be holding the knife in to effect this problem?
 
tongueriver said:
Looks like a good modification job. Thanks for showing it. I am having trouble figuring out how a sheepfoot blade digs into your palm. What position would you be holding the knife in to effect this problem?
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Good catch there, I knew someone might ask that very question, it depends on what you are cutting, when whittling/or peeling fruit, sometimes I'll be drawing the blade's edge toward me so so the spine of the handle is against the inside of my fingers and the spine of the enclosed blades would come up against my palm.

But also in 'regular' grip you'd have the sheepsfoot peak being felt as you hold the knife. While not a big issue as you normally are not doing this for prolonged periods of time, it's just a better fit overall :)

G2

edited to say thanks guys, I should have taken a before shot, but those that have the stockman know how the sheepsfoot's position is.
 
That's a nice set of modifications, Gary.
I have to admit am partial to stockman patterns with pen instead of spey.
 
Thanks Frank, I found an image from KnivesShipFree, it is the very knife I now own, amazingly small world! So photo credit goes to them for this first image, I did rotate and crop it to be shown in this view, and then as she currently is now

stag.jpg~original

Northwoods_medium_stockman.jpg~original


as you can see, I also ground down the kick just a little bit on the 'pen' blade too so it sits just a tad lower to allow more clearance for the nail nick of the sheepsfoot blade once it was also lowered.

G2
 
Gary W. Graley said:
So, my first job was to turn that spey into a 'Pen blade', doing that allowed clearance to be able to lower the sheepsfoot down into the frame so that it's spine was even with the clip point blade.
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It looks great, Gary!

I've been planning the same treatment for my Schrade 34OT. After seeing the wonderful job you did, I'm even more motivated to get started.

Cheers,
Greg
 
Great job on the mods, Gary! That Stockman looks much more comfortable now. :thumbup: And I'm with you, I love Queen's D2. Really high performing steel!
 
I can attest how hard that D2 is. I still have my Northwoods small stag stockman and it took a lot of work to even the grinds out and get a nice bevel. Nice mods, it's definitely yours now lol.
 
Railsplitter said:
Great work on those blades, Gary and a mighty fine looking knife.

I've been enjoying the "Medium" Stockman pattern myself. Or at least one of the many sizes that Case refers to as Medium. This 63090 pattern has ridden in my pocket almost daily for the last two months. When I switch knives it's another 63090 pattern in Harvest Orange. This one comes in at 3 1/4 inches closed and although it's a little bit smaller than the usual 3 5/8 inches that I'm accustomed to, I've discovered that I just might like this size a little better.

I'm a huge fan of Queen's D2 steel. If this knife had that it would be just about perfect but the "as ground" stainless blades are satisfactory for my needs.



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I like that CASE Medium/Small Stockman a lot, any chance of a picture with the blades shut please? Might have to get one, what is the bone of the one in the picture then?

I favour the Queen Cutlery No.26 it's a smaller Stockman too at about 3.25. I think of it as a Penknife with three blades. The low rider sheepfoot is a great plus, not just from the point of view of appearance, but it enhances the in-hand feel too. The blades are D2 and as I got it 2nd hand, they had been sharpened up very well indeed. This is in WCSB.

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Thanks Jake, I emailed to KnivesShipFree to see if they have any history on that folder, when it was made and any other details, how many in the run and things like that, if anyone else has info I'd appreciate it.

G2
 
Good ;king knife! Nice job you did on making it your own Gary! I like how you dropped the small blades in to the frame to improve comfort.
 
Gorgeous stag Gary! I have only a Winchester in that pattern, no issue with the blades, size is perfect for the pocket.
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Will sent me this Humpback Stockman
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I have also this Sowbelly , but you would certainly not appreciate the very protruding blade for sure! :)
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