Memorial Day - Thanks to those who gave

Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

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I was watching the Memorial Day Concert and it got me thinking. I want to thank all those who served and those who have had family, friends, and loved ones who gave for our country. Ther is aot more to their stories than what meets the camera at a big event.


I will tell a somewhat long story, which involves several families on two sides of a war and covers 50 years and four wars.
My Father was born in Richenau, Germany. His father, Max Apelt, was a somewhat legendary coal miner similar to out John Henry, known for his immense strength. In 1911 he was Germany's Greco-Roman wrestling champ and third place weight lifter. When WW1 started the Kaisers army came to his little mountain town and put all the men in a line … and off they went to war. His wife, Anna ( ah-nah), donated her gold wedding ring to help the raise money for the war effort. They gave her a band made of iron and copper that said, "Gold gab ich fur isen" (look it up). Grandpa became a machine gunner. The machine guns then were huge and heavy, taking two me to operate one - one to load and one to fire and control it. Grandpa could carry the huge gun by himself on his shoulder and carry ammo under the other arm. His unit was on a hill not far over the border into France. It was dug in and told to keep the French army from taking the hill. They were shelled for two days, firing to keep the enemy away and taking heavy casualties. When all of his unit ran out of ammo, the French advanced. Grandpa jumped out of his hole and ran up the hill. The French all fired at him, but he was fast and dodged left and right. He made it over the hill and his fellow remaining comrades all cheered. Some were considering trying to make a run for it themselves when Max came back over the hill carrying four 75 pound cases of ammo, and ran straight toward the French army. He threw the ammo in the hole, stood up, and loaded the gun with one hand while firing with the other. The French fell back and Max yelled to everyone, "Herausholen, macht schnell". He fired away as those not wounded (or dead) dragged the wounded up and over the hill. When he ran out of ammo, the French returned. Max jumped out of the hole and sprinted up the hill. The French started firing, but their officer ordered a cease fire, saying "That man deserves to live today." For his bravery, Max Apelt was awarded the Iron Cross by the Kaiser. He came home, put his medals in an old cigar box, had two kids … and never mentioned it for over 50 years. He became a simple gentle giant who liked beer, gardening, laughter, and family.

At the same time, a well trained and rugged Scottish-American nurse from the Ozarks of Missouri named Mary Elena Elliott wanted to help in the war effort, so she went to New York City and became a Red Cross Nurse. She joined with the Army and was taken to France. They would not let women be in the Army full time or nurses in combat, so they would hire her at each base in France, pay her off after a week or two working in the surgeries, and discharge her, and she would travel with a group of field nurses to the next camp and be hired again. She did this for 47 camps. I still have her Army pay record of all this. She was on one side of the battle lines while Max was on the other.
Upon returning to NYC, she met a young physicist, whom she married. She put all her nursing certificates and war records in a shoe box and set them away. She never told stories of the war to any of her four children or many grandchildren. They settled down in a quiet little town in New Jersey where they raised a family and her husband worked in NYC as a physicist and engineer for Bell labs.
Her son Leland Jr , who had an engineering degree from Dartmouth, volunteered for the army air corps and flew a Mustang fighter over Europe in WWII. I am told he was decorated, but he never mentioned it.
When WWII broke out, their youngest daughter Emily's sweetheart went off to the Pacific, so she quit her studies as one of the three women admitted to the engineering program at Drexel Institute (at that time) and went to nursing school in NYC. Her beloved came home in one piece, they got married, the war ended, she went with him to London with a new baby , returned a few years later, … and they lived a happy simple life in New Jersey where they had two more sons.


After the Great European Depression, Max had emigrated to America in 1930, became an American citizen, and his son, Egon Apelt was a senior in High School in 1941. The new war in Europe was getting worse, and everyone expected us to soon be in it. Egon went down in early September of '41 to join the Navy. He wasn't 18 until January, but they said it would take a while to process things, and filed out the paperwork. They needed a birth certificate with a raised seal on it. The one he had with his immigration papers was a photocopy. Grandma contacted her sister in Germany, and she went to the registrar in Richenau. He provided a new certificate with an official govt. seal - a Nazi seal. Dad took it to the navy office on Dec 6, 1941 and they said it was fine. The next day Pearl Harbor was attacked and we declared war on Japan, three days later we declared war on Germany.
On his 18th birthday in January of '42 he was sworn into the navy, went to Corpsman school, and was off to the Pacific. The military sent German-Americans to the Pacific and Japanese-Americans to Europe. He had an aptitude for medicine, and served on ships from fleet tugs to the Battleship Missouri. In many cases he was the only medical person there. He was decorated several times for saving lives. They signed the truce with Japan on the deck of his ship. They sent him home for a few weeks R&R, where he married his sweetheart who had been waiting, and they sent him to England. During that short stay, he fathered his son Richard (ree-hard). When the war ended in Europe, he handled the medical screening and transfer of prisoners and returning wounded through London, came home, had two more sons and transferred to serve on ships in the Atlantic while based in Norfolk. In 1953 the Korean war was still dragging on. The military was considering an air invasion of China and needed medical people to be in the advanced troops, with three young sons and a wife, Egon volunteered to go fleet marine and was sent to paratrooper school. He finished the school but before they were deployed, the war ended. He served on in the Navy, eventually running the School of Hospital Administration in Portsmouth until retiring in 1964.
Egon , the son of the WWI German war hero had married Emily, the daughter of the WWI field nurse.

Fast forward to 1964, a new war was raging again, this time in Vietnam. My brother, Richard (now called rich-erd) was a senior in high school. He went down after graduation and joined the Navy. He went to the corpsman schools, had an aptitude for it, and then volunteered fleet marine to go to Nam. His unit was on a routine patrol maneuver at Hill 881. They ran into an entire NVA Battalion we did not know was there. They were crossing a rice paddy when all hell opened up. Many were killed instantly, others wounded, and then the shelling started. Richard ran from one fallen soldier to another, patching them up and sending them toward the tree line where they could find shelter. He patched up a marine, and when the man got up to run for it, he was shot and killed. There was nothing Richard could do, so he got up and moved to the next guy. As he went over the dirt dike, Richard was shot in the shoulder, destroying his whole shoulder joint. He was blown back over the dike. A few of the soldiers who were at the tree line went to get him, but a 60mm shell hit right where he fell. A lot of gore and his body flew about 10 yards in the air and landed out in the middle of the paddy. With nothing they could do, the few remaining soldiers and wounded withdrew. This was all part of the accidental start of the Khe-sanh battle when the US troops inadvertently ran into two battalions of Vietcong.
My parents received a visit from a Navy officer, a Marine officer, a Navy Chief, and Chaplin - telling them their son had been killed in action, and the body not recovered yet.
Meanwhile - A day after the battle, Richard awoke in a rice paddy with one arm dangling off his shoulder, no hearing, and blurred vision. He hurt from head to toe. The shell had hit directly into the body of the dead marine and while Richard was blown in the air and landed 50 feet or so away, he was alive. He injected himself with a lot of morphine and started for the trees. He found a marine with both legs blown off. He put on tourniquets, bandaged his legs, gave him the rest of his morphine, and headed down the trail. Shortly later Richard ran into a group of our soldiers, managed to communicate that there was a badly wounded man down the trail … and collapsed. He was airlifted to one base after another, and not expected to live. Two days after the first visit, another car showed up with four Navy folks and told mom and dad that Richard was alive … barely... and was being sent to the states in steps as they stabilized him. He went from Chu-lai to Da-nang, to the Philippines to Hawaii to San Diego and finally to Portsmouth. In one of these places a visiting high officer (we never found out who or where) took his own purple heart off and pinned it on Richard's pajamas, because he though there would never be a presentation while he was alive. When he got here, the purple heart was still pinned on his pajamas. They fused his humorous into his scapula, he took over a year to heal, got another purple heat (official this time) and a few other medals … and lived a very quite life away from people and noise. He lives quietly in the Catskills today. He never talks about the war.
 
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When I was getting family history together in the early 1970's I visited Dad's parents in Florida. After telling me about relatives from the past, Grandma got out their "Box of old stuff". It had coins from Germany and Austria, family keepsakes, old souvenirs from fairs and the like, and some old German medals. I took out the iron cross and looked at Grandpa and asked 'What's this!" He just looked sad, and said, "Oh dot is yust something they gave me a long time ago. I didn't really do anything but shoot at trees in the war." Later, grandma told me the rest of the story. Dad had never heard the story. Grandma gave me the cigar box and told me to keep it.

A few years later I was getting the same type information from Mom's mother and she pulled out the shoebox. She told me great family stories, very little about the war, and gave me the box to keep.

Remember that iron wedding band? It was in the cigar box.
My daughter - Katina - the Great granddaughter of Max, Great granddaughter of Mary, granddaughter of Egon and Emily, Great niece of Leland Jr., Niece of Richard, was married wearing that band on her right hand nearly 100 years after it was given to Anna. Katina is now a nurse who works in cardiac ICU. She starts her masters program this fall.

Some of you have seen the trauma bag I take to knife shows and places where injuries are likely. In it is dad's WWII fold up surgical kit … which I still use to stitch up guys who get cut ( usually me). Most of the stuff in there is newer, but a few of the old things, like ligature threaders for tying off arteries, is original.When I got dad's old kit out of the attic, it still had a couple dozen morphine styrets in it. I got rid of those and the ancient battle dressings, but kept the surgical kit.

Its late, but tomorrow I'll shoot a photo of the medals case I made for some of Max, Egon, and Richards medals.


So, its your turn. If you have a family story of service, tell us about it.
 
My story not as cool as yours is quite comical. Ill do mu best to keep it pg13...ish.

So it was 2009 and i was a 50cal gunner for our convoy. I was tasked to do PSD (patrol security detachment) basically 12-14 guys that man 4 vehicles and we escort high ranking people and ALOT of ANA (Afghanistan national army) batallions. At one point we had to escort over 250 ANA trucks. 2 of our trucks in the front of the convoy, 2 in the back. We were so spread out that our trucks in the back, our comms wouldnt reach the front 2 trucks. Yeah that was fun.
Anyway so we went on a mission and we would routinely take high ranking officials to meet with the village elders and what not. So we were on a mission like that and we had a new terp (interpreter) riding with us. Well mind you im the rear gunner so im facing backwards, the rear of the truck where this new terp and our medic were sitting. Well we would be on missions for hours on end and taking a bathroom break isnt really as easy as pulling over to the closest 7/11. So you make do with what you got, and use gatorade or water bottles. So were driving and ive been holding my bladder forever. Finally i just cpuldnt bare it and pulled out the trusty water bottle. Go to start foing my business and i holler at my driver "hey benny, gotta take a leak so take it easy with these roads man." Horrible idea. Benny starts swerving and tap the breaks, and hitting every bump in the road. The roads in kandahar suck btw. I end up dropping my bottle but im mid stream and cant stop. Im going everywhere in the back of the truck, cussing as benny as he is just crying from laughter. I look down and the terp is staring at me with a blank look on his face covered in liquid and goes "mista you pee on me" ive never felt so bad in my life. But we all laughed hysterically, gave the terp a towel and we drove on.
Looking back those ling days with those guys were some of the best i ever had. I spent my 21st birthday there on night guard duty. Fun times. Heres to the ones that couldnt make it back. Till valhalla boys
 
Wow, Stacy, those stories are worthy of a feature length film!

Justin, yours, maybe not so much, but thank you for your service. ;)

To the rest of those who have served: Thank you. May you all have a blessed Memorial Day.
 
Thank you for the story Stacy. My dad was also a corpsman and was a medical photographer at Portsmouth Naval Hospital from 1962 to 1964 when he retired. He enlisted in 1942 and went to corpsman school. He served at what is now NAB Little Creek to 1943 when was shipped to the navy base in Rosneath Scotland. In June '44 he landed at Utah beach on June 7 then moved to Cherbourg where he remained till 1945. he was with the group that went to Thule, Greenland in 1951 and built the air force base. His dad was in the English army in Egypt during WW1 and was a Nationalist soldier in Irish Free State before coming to US in 1925. One grandfather was retired English navy and the other was retired English coast guard.
My mom enlisted in the navy in 1944, was trained as a postal clerk, and served at the fleet post office in Brooklyn until 1945 when she married my dad. My mom's oldest brother was a radioman in the navy in the pacific from 1942-1945. another brother was in US Army 82nd Airborne and was killed in Holland Sept 1944 during Operation Market Garden which is the movie A Bridge to Far. her other brothers served in Marine Corps, Army and Air Force. Her father was in army during WW1 but never left the US because of the Spanish flu pandemic. Her uncle was a Horseshoer and served in France during WW1.
I was a navy avaition electronics repairman from 1972 to 1993. my brother was navy flight deck fire fighter. His daughter is a navy doctor. two cousins were navy avaition electronics repairmen and another was army infantry.
Let us all take time today to remember those who have fallen protecting our freedoms.
 
To all those who fight to secure and protect our freedoms, a heart felt thank you!
May we keep our rights and freedoms forever, amen.
 
My son was in Iraq. He was only there a few months and a month or so away from coming home. Best story is probably when some big CH-53 helicopters landed and blew over all the porta-johns.

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My great grandfather, Robert "Rocky" Byrne was an ace fighter pilot. He flew in the 64th fighter squadron, 57th fighter group.
I meant to write the story but I couldn't do it justice. His writing of flights can be found in some books including Aces against Germany.

Thank you to all who have served.
 
I don't have any cool stories to tell. All of the ones I was ever told I was told when I was young and don't remember and I've spent a lot of young adult years trying to forget a lot of my childhood.

Of the family members I know most of them have served. My grandfather, my father, my uncles and 2 out of thee of my older brothers. The one who didn't went into marine architecture and then onto earospace stuff and now builds rockets that launch satellites (he's the really smart one in the family).

My grandmother worked for the White House in an office that worked directly for the First Lady from the time I was born till the Clinton administration. Which had its perks when I was a kid visiting as I've seen parts of the White House you don't get to go when you take the tour.

My grandfather retired after 20 some years as a Master Cheif machinest mate and served in the Korean War.

My father never spoke much about his time in the service. About the only story I remember is a story from when my brother and I were very little. He was based out of Groton, CT at the time and out on deployment on the USS Whale. My uncle was stationed in Groton at the same time just to a different ship and was in home port. He came by one day to see us when I was approx 6 months and my brother 1 1/2 years old. When he got to our condo on the base knocked on the door no one answered but he could hear us inside. He kicked the door in to find me and my brother alone and our mother gone.

My father being on the submarine on the other side of the globe got the radio transmission as he was one of the ships radioman and had to deliver the message to the captain about what was going on stateside. The ship surfaced somewhere in middle of the ocean where a helicopter picked him up and flew him to an aircraft carrier. They put him in a jet and flew him to the states and he said it had to refuel multiple times before landing and coming to my brother and me. He stayed in 2 1/2 more years serving as a single father.

I have a wall in my shop that has everything I own of his now that he passed away in Aug, 2013. He was a hard man but a fair man. In July of 1992 he was on a car accident and broke his back and had permanent damage to where he was an incomplete quadrapegic. The dr.s said he had six months to live, but lived 21 years and 21 days. His service medals I think allude to why he pushed so hard to prove them wrong.

He is the one on the far left, my grandmother, grandfather and uncle taken just weeks before his accident in June 92'. The last photo of him ever taken before his accident.
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He'a a plank owner for the Naval Inshore Warfare/Amphibious Group Eastern Pacific Command.
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And a plank owner for the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower SSN 69. He my hero!
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Not all wars are fought overseas.
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Scot, If your dad is still around, ask him if he remembers HMCM Doc Apelt . Dad also ran the chiefs club on the end of the old hospital building (which was the school before they tore it down).
 
My story not as cool as yours is quite comical. Ill do mu best to keep it pg13...ish.

So it was 2009 and i was a 50cal gunner for our convoy. I was tasked to do PSD (patrol security detachment) basically 12-14 guys that man 4 vehicles and we escort high ranking people and ALOT of ANA (Afghanistan national army) batallions. At one point we had to escort over 250 ANA trucks. 2 of our trucks in the front of the convoy, 2 in the back. We were so spread out that our trucks in the back, our comms wouldnt reach the front 2 trucks. Yeah that was fun.
Anyway so we went on a mission and we would routinely take high ranking officials to meet with the village elders and what not. So we were on a mission like that and we had a new terp (interpreter) riding with us. Well mind you im the rear gunner so im facing backwards, the rear of the truck where this new terp and our medic were sitting. Well we would be on missions for hours on end and taking a bathroom break isnt really as easy as pulling over to the closest 7/11. So you make do with what you got, and use gatorade or water bottles. So were driving and ive been holding my bladder forever. Finally i just cpuldnt bare it and pulled out the trusty water bottle. Go to start foing my business and i holler at my driver "hey benny, gotta take a leak so take it easy with these roads man." Horrible idea. Benny starts swerving and tap the breaks, and hitting every bump in the road. The roads in kandahar suck btw. I end up dropping my bottle but im mid stream and cant stop. Im going everywhere in the back of the truck, cussing as benny as he is just crying from laughter. I look down and the terp is staring at me with a blank look on his face covered in liquid and goes "mista you pee on me" ive never felt so bad in my life. But we all laughed hysterically, gave the terp a towel and we drove on.
Looking back those ling days with those guys were some of the best i ever had. I spent my 21st birthday there on night guard duty. Fun times. Heres to the ones that couldnt make it back. Till valhalla boys


I was never on any missions like that as I was in during the mid 90's and never went to any war but I was a crew driver fo a while when I was stationed in Rota. The guys in the back def got a rough ride a few days just messing with them.
 
My Grandfather served at the Invasion of Anzio, the so called Italian D day. He was a machine gunner, but quickly after taking the beach head their unit was surrounded and cut off. Heavy fog rolled in off the Mediterranean and their air support was unable to fly the sorties needed to cover the invasion. Once cut off by a panzer division, they were captured after 2 months.

My grandfather was a jew, and being captured by Nazi Panzer divisions was not a good fate for any jewish solider. Him, along with 12 other jewish POW's and one poor bastard from Arkansas who happened to be circumcised were deemed inhuman and began a long march towards Dachau.

By this point in the war, the Red Army has captured Majdanek, the first of nearly 40,000 camps that would be liberated from the Nazi's. Every Jew in the Armies of Britain, the U.S and the Soviets knew what it meant to be captured. My grandfather and his comrades were beaten and starved as they were force marched to Germany. By this point, the Battle of Kursk had been won, the port of Brussels was liberated, it was well known by all but the most fervent Nazis that Hitler's Thousand Year Reich would be lucky to survive the year. In early 1945, during a march outside of Frankfurt my Grandfather broke away and ran into the woods. He would meet up with an American Paratrooper squad on the French/ German border and serve with them until the end of the war.

Every year, on VE day, he would meet back together with those men from his squad sentenced to die. 13 old east coast jews would meet, speak Yiddish, have canadel soup and knishes, and a big southern would be confused every year about "what in heavens name you folks are eating"

It is a day to remember those who gave all, and those still giving.
 
Scot, If your dad is still around, ask him if he remembers HMCM Doc Apelt . Dad also ran the chiefs club on the end of the old hospital building (which was the school before they tore it down).
my dad died 11/2010, he probably did, he did a lot of PR type pictures as well as operating room stuff. Myself and brother and sister were born at Portsmouth Naval in old buildings they tore down in the 70's. we have several wooden wardroom chairs from the old hospital that were rescued when then switched to metal/plastic ones.
an aside, my dad is buried in Sturgis SD Veterans Cemetery which is just south of the geographic center of North America, about as far away from the oceans as one can get.
PS asked some young members of the 82nd about Market Garden and other WW2 battles 82nd was involved in. they had no real idea what I was talking about.
 
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