today was the usual monthly gun show in memphis put on by RK shows....we had the usual dealers show up and a few i havent seen in quite awhile...all was well until i heard this pistol shot and see this guy say "i'm shot! i'm shot"...he was about 14 yards away from me and i was able to get to him in literally a second or two before he fell to the floor...it seems a official with the show who was supposed to be an "expert" was checking the guns to make sure they were unloaded and was putting those plastic ties on/in the guns to disable them...well when he applied a plastic tie to the trigger of a .40 sig he had an accidental discharge and the federal hydra shok bullet struck an innocent bystander in the left thigh and it exited his posterior thigh fully expaned but fragmented and he rapidly got very shocky...fortunately i was there in a flash as was an emt and a nurse....the emt used some sort of benchmade and i used my dozier personal utility to cut this guy's pants off to see the wound and apply pressure/bandages/etc while we were waiting for the ambulance to get there....one of the dealers gave me some old wwII or korean vintage pressure dressings that were still sealed in the package to apply and the crowd around the scene was unbelievable....as trav alluded to in another post there were police and ambulance and news people out the wazoo in no time....the emt and i had never worked together but we both went into "the mode" and had an excellent control of the situation before the ambulance arrived...somehow we both clicked and seemed like we had worked together for years....i would like to publically thank all who participated in this man's care if i didnt do it already at the show.....the victim probably suffered a fractured femur as well as an arterial injury...i will go to the trauma center tomorrow and check on him and update you guys.....other than that the show was ok and it was sorta humorous when we had a thunderstorm about an hour later and this big clap of thunder shook the building and everyone ducked....feverdoc
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memphis gun/knife show 8/11/01 scarey as hell
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Feverdoc,
I always wondered that about gunshows. On the way in to the show,
they would ask you if you had a loaded weapon. If you said yes, they told you to unload it. So there you are in line and a guy is clearing his weapon. Always thought it would be safer if they just let them loaded. I go to a couple gunshows a year and every time, either in front of me or behind me, someone has to empty his gun.
Never understood this.
Glad you were there to help this man.
Take care,
I always wondered that about gunshows. On the way in to the show,
they would ask you if you had a loaded weapon. If you said yes, they told you to unload it. So there you are in line and a guy is clearing his weapon. Always thought it would be safer if they just let them loaded. I go to a couple gunshows a year and every time, either in front of me or behind me, someone has to empty his gun.
Never understood this.
Glad you were there to help this man.
Take care,
Feverdoc, it sounds like this guy was lucky that you were at the show. Good job. I make numerous gunshows every year and we have accidental discharges more often than you would think, but most of them happen at the tables. So far, no one has been injured. Us gunnuts need to be more careful or they will close down our shows.
Gotta admit I was kinda proud of my FeverDocky! He took control of the situation real quick. It was an unfortunate incident that could have been prevented......when the sign on the door says, "NO LOADED GUNS", it really means NO LOADED GUNS. Then to top it off, one of the news channels flubbed up the whole story in about a 10 second spot, which really made it not sound like a big deal, which, the less publicity about it the better. Very exciting day to day for sure.
The other unfortunate thing is that the injured guy will probably sue the promoter and close the show for good.And you know the anti-gunners are going to have a field day with this.Too bad some people lack common sense and blame others for it.Dave
i just got off the phone with the investigating detective and she told me the guy who was shot wasnt mad at any one and has no hard feelings (we will see if this persists).....she also said he kinda laughed and said "$hit happens"....hopefully he wont sue anyone involved....feverdoc
Good job, Feverdoc! Looks like you were in exactly the right place at the right time (far enough away to be out of the line of fire, and close enough to administer aid).
Unfortunately as soon as some ambulance chaser of a lawyer gets ahold of the victim, his Sh*t happens thoughts will more than likely turn into dollar signs. Especially when he finds out the show must carry a large insurance policy to be allowed to operate. I don't think this one is quite over yet. Let's hope I am wrong.
Unfortunately as soon as some ambulance chaser of a lawyer gets ahold of the victim, his Sh*t happens thoughts will more than likely turn into dollar signs. Especially when he finds out the show must carry a large insurance policy to be allowed to operate. I don't think this one is quite over yet. Let's hope I am wrong.
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WOAH!! I was just talking to Mayo on the phone and he told me about this!!! I had been at the Jackson show all day, and have been enjoying my new Kimber .45 this evening. I have not been online all day.After I got off the phone I RAN straight to the keyboard!Way to go Mitch
. btw, when is your next Jackson trip? We gotta do lunch
. btw, when is your next Jackson trip? We gotta do lunchI had a situation very simialar to this happen to me about 5 years ago at a gun show in Fayetteville NC. Me and a friend were standing in line to get in and the policeman took a Beretta jetfire .25 from a lady that had it in her pocket book and took the clip out and then jacked the slide back. Well, these guns are blowback action without an extractor and he promptly aimed it at the floor just inches from my feet and pulled the trigger. The gun had a bullet in the chamber and the bullet hit the floor right between my feet and richochet up to the ceiling. It barely missed me. I could here the bullet wizzing by my head as it went up. I fell immediately to the floor (my legs gave out on me). It was the absolutely scaredest I have ever been. Everyone thought I was hit and came to me. I pulled up my shirt and looked all over my body but no blood. I was very lucky. I almost fainted. I sat in the gun show office for 2 hours before I could get up and go into the gun show. This is when I stopped going to that show. Those cops down there are crazy!
michael
michael
Don't take it all out on show security. Some idiot gun knut decided to take a loaded gun in the first place, and then neglected to unload it before handing it to the officer. That's the guy who deserves our scorn. The security cop is just a poor smuck working the weekend to make a buck.
feverdoc,
It looks like the guy is very fortunate that you were there and decided to get involved. Good going, Thanks.
N2S
feverdoc,
It looks like the guy is very fortunate that you were there and decided to get involved. Good going, Thanks.
N2S
I notice the same thing here with shows in NY.Frankly,the gun knut shouldn't be taking heat for the idiot show promoter.I can legally carry all over most of NY,WTF is the problem with carring into a gun show.I always thought that this realm of thinking to be contradictory to the theme of a gunshow.I have a permit and I can legally carry.A gun show comes to town,and now I'm an idiot,that can't be trusted to safely carry inside a Gun Show?The day they put in metal detectors,is the day I no longer go to the shows.
by the way,where did the whole process serve for safety?In their arrogance against the armed citizen,it was these promoter numbnuts that put innocent lives at risk.Makes me sick,what this country turned into.:barf:
by the way,where did the whole process serve for safety?In their arrogance against the armed citizen,it was these promoter numbnuts that put innocent lives at risk.Makes me sick,what this country turned into.:barf:Nice going Feverdoc! I wish you were nearby when I went to a gun and
knife show a few years ago and some d*nk in a cowboy renactment outfit
took a bowie off an exhibition table and proceeded to wave it around
like he was the reincarnation of Jim himself. I nearly walked into
him as he was holding it behind his back, point out into the aisle!
Sure enough, a few minutes later, someone yelled out he had been cut.
As far as I know, no one got in trouble with the law. It always
amazes me. Don't these people realize that any incident in a gun or knife show is just grist for the mill of the people who would shut the shows down? Look at it this way, if a dozen people got hurt at a
car show by a runaway vehicle, it will make the local news. If one
person is injured by anything at a gun show, Rosie herself will be
crying out (in between filling her face) to the White House! Some
people!
knife show a few years ago and some d*nk in a cowboy renactment outfit
took a bowie off an exhibition table and proceeded to wave it around
like he was the reincarnation of Jim himself. I nearly walked into
him as he was holding it behind his back, point out into the aisle!
Sure enough, a few minutes later, someone yelled out he had been cut.
As far as I know, no one got in trouble with the law. It always
amazes me. Don't these people realize that any incident in a gun or knife show is just grist for the mill of the people who would shut the shows down? Look at it this way, if a dozen people got hurt at a
car show by a runaway vehicle, it will make the local news. If one
person is injured by anything at a gun show, Rosie herself will be
crying out (in between filling her face) to the White House! Some
people!
here is some follow up on the guy who was shot....he went to surgery right after arriving at the trauma center yesterday and he did in fact have a fractured femur as i had suspected on the scene....his femur was pinned/bolted/plated and he was actually up on crutches this am hobbling around...fortunately he had no knee or hip damage.....i talked with the promoter as well as some of his posse today and they told me they went to the hospital to see him this morning and he was doing well....i wasnt there for the conversation/interaction but the promoter said all was friendly and polite...somehow this entire incident was only a 10 second blurb on the tv news and never made the papers
garyz and russ...i look forward to seeing you guys at the knife show next weekend and i will bring plenty of bandaids as i intend to handle every knife you guys bring
feverdoc
garyz and russ...i look forward to seeing you guys at the knife show next weekend and i will bring plenty of bandaids as i intend to handle every knife you guys bring
feverdoc
Man, I'll second that... and third that.
Arterial damage (femoral artery?), connected to a hole and a big hunk of meat out the backside courtesy of an expanded and fragmented Hydrashok? Ouch, and YIKES.
That could have spelled seriously life-threatening bleed-out trouble for that poor guy if the man who has been so fortunate with "pus" hadn't been Johnny on the Spot.
Broken femur and gunshot wound....well, heck, couple years from now, he'll be back to near 80% with that leg if he's lucky. Hope it's 99%.
