Menacing dogs

If you want to believe in fantasy instead of history. That is fine with me. I don't adhere to the PETA philosophy about dog fighting. I know that I'll be in the minority on that one. But the dogs are Fighters as much as Pointers are pointers and Australian Shepards are herders.

I have to commend the Heeler on it's balls if not it's brains. They are brave little dogs. I had one that was really protective of children. If they were any outside playing, he would attack any dog that came by, no matter how big. With a baby in the house, he'd stand outside it's window on guard. Damn, I miss that dog.
 
Originally posted by biogon
Speaking of Rottweilers... what's the opinion here on European Rottweilers -- the longer, sleeker kind?

Thanks,

-jon

The "european" Rottweiller is not a long or sleek dog. In every dog show I attended I saw the judges prefer the dogs with a compact body. Funny, the kind of Rottweiller you describe was known to me as american type Rottweiller :D
 
Speaking of menacing dogs, here is my Glad trying to look menacing :D

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Beautiful dog, flava!
I grew up with bull mastiffs, I like them a lot. Once I move out of the city, I want to get a Neapolitan mastiff.
My sister has a pit bull, he's a good dog. Very friendly, always wanting to play. He knows he's beta, rarely I have to hold him down by the collar when he doesn't want to stop playing, but he always shows his belly when you do that. I think he's too friendly to be a good guard dog, but he is sure a good deterrent!
 
"I have to commend the Heeler on it's balls if not it's brains. They are brave little dogs. I had one that was really protective of children. If they were any outside playing, he would attack any dog that came by, no matter how big. . . ."

Ballsy, yes. Brainy, no. Why would you want a dog that was so eager to fight?

My 2-year-old niece has a pet lab. I hope you don't mean to say that my little niece can't play at the park with her puppy because your ballsy dog would attack it if they accidentally got too close.

Scott
 
:rolleyes: Who said anything about parks? Why wouldn't someone want a dog that would defend children in their territory from stray, wandering dogs? Selfless protection of their master is a good quality in a dog.
 
If you think a gun will protect you against a pit bull, maybe you'd better think twice.

Check this out. Click here to see bullet-proof pit bull

Edit: I guess the photo and story about the pit bull keeps moving. Toggle the arrow button ("up" the last time I checked) until you find them. (There's some other interesting stuff along the way).
 
Suerte,

Sorry if I read your post wrong.

It seems that many people have the misunderstanding that an overtly "protective" dog is a good thing around kids. Generally the false conception is that these dogs act out to protect the family they feel a part of. Overt agression like this is more comonly a sign that either 1) the dog thinks the kids are its own property or 2) the dog has a weak temperament.

Dominance issues can be controlled to some extent with agressive training, but dogs that tend to attempt dominance over humans are always a risk when unattended off lead.

Dogs that have weak temperaments that also show agression tend to be "fear biters." These are the worst kind. They need lots of care, and loving, quiet environments unless they can somehow develop some confidence and evenness of temperament. Not likely. Otherwise they should be put down. They are bombs waiting to go off.

From the description you gave, I couldn't help but envision one of those two types.

You are right that selfless protection is a good quality in a dog. I own a German Shepherd because he has that instinct and is extremely smart. But you wouldn't know he is so protective if you met him -- he is a greeter and a wagger, a real lover. Make no mistake though, he will absolutely not hesitate to lay down his life to protect me. He is very good at percieving what is and is not a threat.

A dog that displays combative agression without much provacation, or one who is hesitant to socialize, is one to watch out for. Those are the dogs that wreck it for the rest of us working breed owners. They percieve everything as a threat, and act accordingly. Whether the master's or the dog's fault, those dogs need to be kept on lead or penned at all times. They are not dogs you want to own or have in your neighborhood.

Scott

PS: I should add that it can be nearly impossible to train those problem dogs. They will never fully trust you enough to listen, and they will never have enough confidence to apply what they learn. They are basically worthless dogs.

There used to be a practice of training a dog for combat by agitating it. The general theory was that everyone (in the military unit) would beat the dog except its master. They basically took good dogs and drove them crazy, essentially ruined them. The dogs learned that fighting was the only way to survive. Not a good way to treat an animal, or to get what you want, a trained protection dog.
 
The dog had no dominance or 'fear biter' issues. If you don't want a dog to be so protective of young children that are essentially its care, then that's your perrogative. Would you also find fault with dogs that are put in with goats or sheep, as opposed to humans, attacking marauding dogs or coyotes? To me, he was simply was doing his job instinctively and selflessly. If you want to try some more pet psychology, he wouldn't let strange males out of there vehicles when children (we're talking young children not quite in school yet) were at the house unless he was called off. That probably qualifies him as Cujo or something (I know that it made UPS deliveries difficult:D).
 
Suerte,

I think coyotes are a threat, and so are child molesters. Smart dogs can pick that up.

Scott
 
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