Met a former Navy Seal the other night...

Navy FrogMan said:
Folderguy

Please e-mail name to: archives@frii.com
Naval Special Warfare Archives homepage www.navyfrogmen.com
Thank you
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I've heard there are plenty of scams around. Not so sure I want to send his name along to someone I don't know, as that may end up hurting him professionally. Then there are those who slander others (I have no reason to believe you are anything but an upstanding individual) and I sure don't want to inadvertently be involved even tangentially in that.

Instead of pursuing this by emailing you, next time I see him I'll bring this up with him, and see how he responds.

Best,

Folderguy
 
Why not? It's a weird thing to be secretive about.

Especially because most people who use a knife professionally, know a knife is a knife.

Anyway, if you guys are really close and he still doesn’t trust you with this piece of seemingly trivial information, respect his desire to keep you in the dark (for whatever reason).

I’ll tell you about the knife that was issued to me when I was in the Military Service: Victorinox Army Soldier, Silver Alox.
 
Behind our keyboards aren't we all Navy SEALs?? I have known a couple and getting them to even admit or talk about it was like pulling teeth, and this was after being friends for a few months.

As for me, ...in my dreams..., I was issued a Luminox Navy SEAL watch and a MircoTech UDT and a Sog SEAL knife, oh and a Kobold SEAL watch too :)

Oh wait, and a Dick Marcinko watch... and a Strider Rogue Warrior knife!

And there are hundreds of other SEAL branded products I was "issued" also...in my Navy SEAL dreams...just like every keyboard commando out there...
 
Buffalohump said:
I hear DarkOps is a popular choice among the high speed crowd. :p
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Quiet... don’t tell anybody…
There is a reason Dark Ops keeps doesn’t brag about being a supplier to elite military units. But I can’t tell you. I’m surprised you are even aware of this particular supplier.

A message to those of you, who are now contemplating googling Dark Ops: don't.
 
RafaelHerschel said:
Why not? It's a weird thing to be secretive about.

Especially because most people who use a knife professionally, know a knife is a knife.

Anyway, if you guys are really close and he still doesn’t trust you with this piece of seemingly trivial information, respect his desire to keep you in the dark (for whatever reason).

I’ll tell you about the knife that was issued to me when I was in the Military Service: Victorinox Army Soldier, Silver Alox.
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it may be weird to you, but perhaps folderguy does not feel it is his place to investigate his friend's military history. maybe there was some sort of non-disclosure agreement with the knifemaker. only he knows, and the friend is under no obligation to reveal what type of knife he carried or give a reason as to why he won't.

i know and have met many military and swat types, and some are more secretive than others. generally, they dont talk about much, but it would be inaccucurate to say none of them do.

and just because they do talk about stuff, it doesn't mean they are bragging.
 
Here's a hint. Most of the time today it is called a "P Card." :eek:

Not willing to talk about the latest knife...that's hilarious.:D
 
no offense but it all sounds kinda retarded. I mean they aren't using "secret" or "exclusive military only knives" they are the same knives we carry. Sounds like he is a blowhard, and yes I know anyone who's been in the war/navy/whatever doesn't ever talk about anything......but something as meaningless as that....
 
you folks are making quite a few assumptions about someone none of you know based on very little information.
 
I remember reading one of Richard Marcinko's books many years ago and he mentioned not considering a knife as a weapon but the Emerson Combat Folder was the best knife he had seen. This was a long time ago but that is based on my memory.

I was about 45 when I read his book (Red Cell) and I thought it was pretty far out but he did talk about how the middle eastern terrorists had been trained by the U.S. to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. I didn't know how accurate he was in predicting what was going to happen, and how this shit was going to come back on us.

I also read a couple of books about UDT and SEALS about that same time. One was "Brave Men Dark Waters" and I can't remember the title of the other book. But one of them confirmed a "war story" that a man named Carroll told me when we were in flight school (Army) in 1968. Carroll was an NCO (Special Forces) guy who had done a tour in Vietnam already. We were in Warrant Officer Candidate school. Anyway, he told a group of us a story about testing the Sky Hook system (shown in the stupid John Wayne movie about the Green Berets) and how the cable had broken and a SEAL with the last name of "Fox" had fallen to his death. He said the cable broke just as they were about to pull Fox into the cargo hull of the flying boxcar when the cable broke. He (Fox) had wave goodbye and gone into a skydiver's position to slow himself down but was still killed when he hit the water (I think they were over a lake in VA).

I always wondered if this story was BS but found it in one of the books. I still remembered that the sailor's name was Fox. Carroll was so respected that he was always elected as our flight (platoon) leader. I didn't finish flight school (got recycled and quit) and have always regretted it. Carroll was killed in Vietnam flying a Cobra and I have tried to find members of his family a number of times. He was from Texas. He was the last guy I would have ever thought would not make it. The guy could do anything and seemed to have no fear.

I never even heard of the SEALS until well after Vietnam. I knew about special forces and spooks but not about the SEALS. The guys who always scared me were the LRRPs. Most folks don't know about the "lurps" but most if not all of them were volunteers from troops already serving in Vietnam. I was a dog handler and we sometimes had to go out with them and I didn't want to go. Brave guys but scary.

Also, most people have the wrong idea about SEALS and most special forces units. Their job is not to fight although they are highly trained warriors, but to recon, call in air strikes, etc. It doesn't matter how good you are if there 6 of you and 400 of the bad guys and you get trapped into a fire fight. Read the SOG book by John Plaster (the Ultimate Sniper is also a must have if you are into long guns).

Anyway, about the time I read these books I bought a Boonie hat and my teenage son told me I looked like an "old" SEAL. I asked him if he meant a special operations guy or a harbor seal, but he wouldn't give me an answer.
 
The assumptions are being made on the rule of thumb that it it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

You can't find any info on line about the latest SEAL issue knife because..... there is no SEAL issue knife. From my understanding, each individual is responsible for getting their own knives and there is no standard Navy issue knife, and never has been. You could talk to 10 different SEALs and they would probably all carry 10 different knives, assuming they would carry a knife at all. When I have talked to my SEAL buddies about knives the answer I usually get is, "If I am ever in a situation where I need a knife then something went terribly wrong"...
 
Orion said:
The assumptions are being made on the rule of thumb that it it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

You can't find any info on line about the latest SEAL issue knife because..... there is no SEAL issue knife. From my understanding, each individual is responsible for getting their own knives and there is no standard Navy issue knife, and never has been. You could talk to 10 different SEALs and they would probably all carry 10 different knives, assuming they would carry a knife at all. When I have talked to my SEAL buddies about knives the answer I usually get is, "If I am ever in a situation where I need a knife then something went terribly wrong"...
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oh really?

who ever said the seal in question was issued a knife?
 
Its hard to get any info about people who conduct secret missions or dark ops anything about their work. Its a thing that they try to also protect people around them aswell occupational mistrust.
 
My friend did communications with SEAL teams during missions and was issued a benchmade auto. He said that is what s lot of them used but they also had a purchaser that could get them whatever they requested.
 
who ever said the seal in question was issued a knife?
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Read the initial post where it is stated that

He said the Seals have had/used more than one knife over the years, and wouldn't tell me what the current one is like.
Told him I'd check it out online, and he didn't seem to think I'd find anything on it.
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The language implies that there is a single knife that is currently being used by all SEALS. So, either he is implying that the SEALs are issued a specific knife at the present time, or either all the SEALs from all over the US got together and decided to accessorize with the same knife simultaneously.
 
some times they wont tell cuz they dont know. I can play seal/special forces as well... but I'm not a poser!


I say dont worry about it, you dont have the skill they have so what good is having the same equiptment. As long as the knife you have feels good to you and preforms well for what you use it for, its a great knife. Plus, how often are you gonna need a knife to tatically kill someone?
 
Yeah, if a civilian employs his souped up tacticool knife as in the manner a SEAL/Spec Ops type imagined would, he'd be charged with murder. No thank you. I'll continue to use my knives in a responsible manner - opening the next knife's package, slicing my PB&J sandwich, carving a spoon I wouldn't use, etc. Should I get a desire to commit mayhem, I'll likely just watch another Zombie movie. Of course, there is that double-sided axe in the basement...

I guess some want a knife like O.J. was 'accused' of using - or a box cutter like the terrorists used. Sorry - a bit too macabre for me. Where did I put my copy of 'Zombieland'.

Stainz
 
You could zoom in on the provided picture and read the name.

All that really tells you though is which knife this guy has attached to his gear. :)
 
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