Metal Polishes, Metal Waxes & Metal Cleaners, Lubes?

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JD Spydo

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I have several knife maintenance products but most of what I have are mainly made by two well known companies. First and foremost is my FLITZ lineup of products. Two products of theirs are just indispensible and they are FLITZ's Polish and Flitz's Metal Wax.

The other companies products that I am really sold on are those of SENTRY SOLUTIONS. I find their BP-2000 dry lube to work extremely well with many of my folders that have elaborate locking systems. I also find their "Tuf Cloth" to be great for field use.

Oh one other great knife maintenance product that I've swore by for years is my Militec synthetic lube oil and Militec's synthetic grease>> I have never had either one of these great Militec products ever fail me or disappoint me. OK guys lets compare notes on the latest and most proven knife maintenance products.

Also anyone have anything good to say about these newer "nanolubes"? I really want to get up to speed on knife maintenance products.
 
Simichrome, Wenol, Mother's Mag Polish, Renaissance Wax, mineral oil, Eezox.
 
Wenol is a metal polish that comes in squeeze tubes like toothpaste. Comes in two colors of tubes - red and blue. Blue is a bit finer. I only have experience with the red. It seems to be very similar to Simichrome. I can get the Wenol polish locally for cheap so I have a couple of tubes of it, for when my Simichrome runs out.

Eezox is a gun care product intended to prevent corrosion. I have used it on carbon steel knife blades to protect them from rust/patina. Unlike oils, it leaves a dry finish if not overly applied. I still prefer a drop of mineral oil for joint lubricant. I already owned some as part of my gun cleaning supplies so I gave it a try with my knives too.

I use these products almost exclusively with slipjoint knives, not modern folders.

I use Renaissance Wax mostly to bring out the beauty of bone and stag handles and not so much on the blades themselves, since it would just wear off from use.
 
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I've just ordered and will be testing and comparing the following:

Dumonde Tech Gun Lube - Very well known in the Motorsports and Bike world, just released a gun lube & Grease. Claim nano penetration
Archoil - Nano Tungsten lubrication
Ballistol - Well known
Prolix - Gun Lube
Frog Lube CLP - Again Well known
Eezox Gun Oil - Semi well known
NanoProMT - Claim Nano penetration, have a government contract (Doesn't always mean anything)

Along with a gallon sized bottle of Purple Simple Green as many of the products like FrogLube, Dumonde Tech...etc need to start from a bare surface to prevent gumming up. This is a reasearch product I have been working on for a little over a week and have begun ordering supplies.
 
avoid Nano oil and Diamond lube, they are purely snake oil marketing and other solutions are better and less costly. if you research the history of these companies they are nothing but drama. the only reason why they are still around is because people keep talking about them and dont know the BS. nano really doesnt do anything for what they are marketing it for, and knives dont need nano anything. if you read bob is the oil guy forums, you can read how BS most of this stuff is, and often times with scientific proof. the nano products dont use any real world testing to show real world data, all tests used are to make their product look like they do something legitimate but in reality are null.

i use a private label synthetic lube that actually penetrates that metal to protect it, or i use finish line grease. Diawa, machine oil, mineral oil, motor oil, etc are all decent for lubrication as well.

i use either mineral oil or Fluid film to coat high carbon blades.
 
Thats a pretty wide brush you're painting with there Mo2 All nano products don't have any science behind them....
 
they have marketing for it so they can sell you something that costs more that is useless
 
Mo2 said:
they have marketing for it so they can sell you something that costs more that is useless
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Well might as well just call up all the major universities and private companies spending millions on nano friction reduction and tell them their work is useless...

Just curious though, why do you use a sythetic oil instead of just regular, sounds like a bunch of marketing hype to me all this synthetic stuff...
 
Also Mo2 in the spirit of fair competition, if you'd like to send me a sample of this special privately labeled synthetic I would be glad to test it as well. Please also note I am not including either of the two products you specifically mentioned as I know what they are and am not going to argue with you, after all you've got at least a dozen posts on this forum stating exactly the same thing you stated here.

My goal is to find something I can use for both my knives and my guns which offers the best combination of lubrication and protection. If you're not interested that's fine, doesn't mean there isn't a lot of science and research being done. Same as when synthetic oils were released years ago. If every new product that came out was snake oil I think we'd all be using ballistol for everything, if I'm not mistaken is it not the oldest?
 
Amoo said:
Also Mo2 in the spirit of fair competition, if you'd like to send me a sample of this special privately labeled synthetic I would be glad to test it as well. Please also note I am not including either of the two products you specifically mentioned as I know what they are and am not going to argue with you, after all you've got at least a dozen posts on this forum stating exactly the same thing you stated here.

My goal is to find something I can use for both my knives and my guns which offers the best combination of lubrication and protection. If you're not interested that's fine, doesn't mean there isn't a lot of science and research being done. Same as when synthetic oils were released years ago. If every new product that came out was snake oil I think we'd all be using ballistol for everything, if I'm not mistaken is it not the oldest?
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What will be your testing methodology?
 
Vinifera said:
What will be your testing methodology?
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I have a few already planned and I'm still trying to find more. A salt water test will be easy as I have salt water fish tanks. A friction test with a digital scale. A few others. The main snag I'm running into is a longevity test. If a lube works great for the first few uses that's great, but if it doesn't hold up it's kind of useless. Still doing some reading on how to simulate this.
 
jc57 said:
Some reason you are going to all of that trouble?
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Science?

Never personally been a big fan of doing things because that's how they've always been done. There are tons of new things out there that people use. I want to do some of my own research and share it with others to allow me to draw my own conclusions and others can do with the info as they wish.
 
JD Spydo said:
I have several knife maintenance products but most of what I have are mainly made by two well known companies. First and foremost is my FLITZ lineup of products. Two products of theirs are just indispensible and they are FLITZ's Polish and Flitz's Metal Wax.

The other companies products that I am really sold on are those of SENTRY SOLUTIONS. I find their BP-2000 dry lube to work extremely well with many of my folders that have elaborate locking systems. I also find their "Tuf Cloth" to be great for field use.

Oh one other great knife maintenance product that I've swore by for years is my Militec synthetic lube oil and Militec's synthetic grease>> I have never had either one of these great Militec products ever fail me or disappoint me. OK guys lets compare notes on the latest and most proven knife maintenance products.

Also anyone have anything good to say about these newer "nanolubes"? I really want to get up to speed on knife maintenance products.
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No Militec-1 for me, thanks.
a little rust prevention test
a not-so-little rust prevention test: round 2

Mo2 said:
avoid Nano oil and Diamond lube, they are purely snake oil marketing and other solutions are better and less costly. if you research the history of these companies they are nothing but drama. the only reason why they are still around is because people keep talking about them and dont know the BS. nano really doesnt do anything for what they are marketing it for, and knives dont need nano anything. if you read bob is the oil guy forums, you can read how BS most of this stuff is, and often times with scientific proof. the nano products dont use any real world testing to show real world data, all tests used are to make their product look like they do something legitimate but in reality are null.

i use a private label synthetic lube that actually penetrates that metal to protect it, or i use finish line grease. Diawa, machine oil, mineral oil, motor oil, etc are all decent for lubrication as well.

i use either mineral oil or Fluid film to coat high carbon blades.
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Mineral oil for high carbon... great idea... check out the 2nd link I posted above.

I only have my real-world experience with Nano Oil to go by. I can get my pivots tighter while still being able to wrist flick my Axis locks open when I use Nano Oil as compared to all of the above products. Since your private label synthetic lube is so much better than Nano Oil, why aren't you naming it? Surely it would make sense to give Nano Oil fans something else to use instead of the "snake oil..."
 
Thanks for the links Looneybin, anything specifically you think I'm missing I should add?
 
For anything firearm related, I'll stick with what ever has passed MIL-PRF-63460. All my limited testing agrees with theirs.
Since in my experience, these formulas perform the best, might as well use them for everything else too, from folders to fishing reels.
 
jpm2 said:
For anything firearm related, I'll stick with what ever has passed MIL-PRF-63460. All my limited testing agrees with theirs.
Since in my experience, these formulas perform the best, might as well use them for everything else too, from folders to fishing reels.
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isn't clp the only thing officially on the list?
 
There are no lubricants "that actually penetrates that metal to protect it" .
 
Amoo said:
isn't clp the only thing officially on the list?
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Whatever passes the test is designated CLP by the military.
1.2 Identification. This lubricant is identified by Military Symbol CLP and North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Code Number S-758.
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So far the only list I can find is what ever is presently qualified.
http://qpldocs.dla.mil/search/parts.aspx?qpl=2438 ← click on CLP
http://qpldocs.dla.mil/search/print_govt_mfg.aspx?govt=34474185

I still have some breakfree left from the 90s. If that ever runs out, I'll probably choose from a present list.
 
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