Metallurgy and Chocolate

The best thing about chocolates is that they really help get women in the mood!

The chemistry is fascinating, but with Valentines Day coming up,… intuition and experience tell me that you might want to leave that part out,... if you want to get laid. :D LOL

If you want to get it helps to have . . .

good chemistry

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Have you ever tried making home made mayonnaise in a blender?

I started doing it because I HATE running out of mayo!

If you don’t do it just right, it just turns into a slimy mess. I know there must be some kind of chemical reaction going on there, with the vegetable oil,… I’ve always wondered about that???
 
Take an Abba Zaba bar and bend it slowly and it flexes, now take the same Abba Zaba and try and bend it as quickly as possible as if breaking a twig and it snaps in two. This has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
 
Take an Abba Zaba bar and bend it slowly and it flexes, now take the same Abba Zaba and try and bend it as quickly as possible as if breaking a twig and it snaps in two. This has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

To quote Zarefsky:
"Formal logic adds surprisingly little to argument and persuasion."
 
Mayonnaise - the oil forms an emulsion, fine globules of oil suspended in the liquid. ...You can cryo candy bars with predictable results - they become very brittle !! Another adventure in cryo. While in Ohio we had to take a trip to Baltimore .We decided not to stop so I made sandwiches to eat on the way. At work in the morning I put the sandwiches in the LN having no refrigerator handy. Later we headed to Baltimore but we almost got there before the sandwiches were thawed out !!..Cryo is not a new thing !
 
Mayonnaise - the oil forms an emulsion, fine globules of oil suspended in the liquid. ...You can cryo candy bars with predictable results - they become very brittle !! Another adventure in cryo. While in Ohio we had to take a trip to Baltimore .We decided not to stop so I made sandwiches to eat on the way. At work in the morning I put the sandwiches in the LN having no refrigerator handy. Later we headed to Baltimore but we almost got there before the sandwiches were thawed out !!..Cryo is not a new thing !


I think there's something going on in the mayo at the "molecular" level. :D

Have you ever tried it? There's something more to it than just whipping ingredients together... maybe some kind of chemical reaction between the oil and the acids that rearrange the atoms and form new molecules.

It's different than a vinegarette, in that it doesn't settle out. How do you explain that?

It's like a permanent emulsion. The oil changes from clear to white and becomes thicker and more viscous.

What's going on there? :D
 
I forgot to mention that with mayo, there's something to do with the speed of the blender and I assume it has something to do with whipping oxygen in... :D

It's weird as heck! You have to do it just right! :D
 
Mayonnaise - Acid,[lemon juice or vinegar], oil [olive or others] ,lecithin. Oil is added very slowly to the lemon juice as it is beaten .This forms an emulsion. The lecithin in the egg yolk stabilizes the emulsion . ..Very easy when you know the science !!!
 
Mayonnaise - Acid,[lemon juice or vinegar], oil [olive or others] ,lecithin. Oil is added very slowly to the lemon juice as it is beaten .This forms an emulsion. The lecithin in the egg yolk stabilizes the emulsion . ..Very easy when you know the science !!!

O.K. Thanks!

I knew you were going to say that! LOL

So, why doesn't it work, if you don't put the ingredients in, in the right order and with just the right timing,... and why is the blender speed so important???

I really want to know this...
This IS important!
 
This is good science! :)

Mete, I'll give you my recipe if you give me yours. They say I got the best mayo in town. :)
 
My wife won't accept store bought mayo, after tasting mine.

98 times out of 100 it works great,... if I follow my "recipe", but I just want to improve my success rate…

It's obvious when the mayo goes bad. Is it just that I didn’t follow the recipe right, or is there another reason for it,... moon phase, room temperature, vibrations etc...?

I think science could really help here...
 
So, why doesn't it work, if you don't put the ingredients in, in the right order and with just the right timing,... and why is the blender speed so important???

Hmm.

We really need a wet chemist for this and I'm just a physicist ... but:

We're dealing with a variety of chemical reactions here, which is why the order of the ingredients is important. You want to promote the proper reactions in precisely the right order. As with most chemical reactions, temperature is probably also quite important. I would also worry about the bowl -- the surface the ingredients touch is likely also important (it probably shouldn't be reactive, especially with acidic ingredients).

The blender speed is probably important because mayonnaise is basically an emulsion -- tiny particles of one material suspended in another. I would guess (just a guess) that the faster the blade spins, the finer the particles it creates. There's probably an optimal ('best') size of fat particles you want to create to make your nice, fluffy mayonnaise. The blender blade probably also creates some local heating at higher speeds which might be a problem for some of the chemical reactions going on.

Just a guess from a physicist, really. Perhaps a wet chemist will drop by and correct me! :D
 
You don't need a blender though it makes things a bit easier. I don't cook by recipe [!!!] but I usually know the science. The benefit of home made mayonnaise is to adjust it according to what you are using it on. The oil [use best quality olive oil] must be added in a very thin stream.As the mix emulsifies you can add oil a little faster.Add acid. I did find a note to not make it during a thunderstorm. I don't know about that but have found other rainy day [low pressure, damp] effects in cooking and in metal casting. Now you know how easy it is for me to mix cooking and metallurgy !! Google 'mayonnaise ' for lots of recipies.
 
I'll take a shot at this and see if I can explain:

First off, I've never made mayonnaise, so this is simply from a chemist's perspective. There is no real reaction going on here in the manner of chemicals changing. This is more physical than anything else.

You can think of this as a three part system much akin to cleaning greasy dishes with soap. :D ( I told you, it was a chemist's perspective! ;) )
You have a water component which comes from the yolk and lemon juice.
There is a fatty component, the oil.
There is a detergent (called an "ionic surfactant" for those interested) , the lecithin in the yoke, which in simple terms has one end of the molecule that likes water and one that likes fat. The water loving end has a positive charge that will attract the acidic negative charge of the lemon juice.

The fat is broken up into tiny enough globs that the lecithin can surround the blobs in a very fine film with the fat-loving end attracted to the oil, and stabilize them and hold water on the other end of it at the same time, forming little discrete cell-like units (micellae), but not so tiny that a certain coating thickness can't be achieved. This forms an "emulsion", a stable suspension. This is all nin a very fine balance to make it happen and keep it from separating, and why mayo is a skill preparation in cooking. It has to do with a balance between surface tension and viscosity.

The same prinicple applies to how dish soap in water can clean grease off of a fry pan. One end likes water, one end likes fat.

Hope that helps. I apologize if it confuses the issue; knowing something is not the ability to teach it. Sometimes it's difficult to explain things you've known so long that they haven't been verbalized in 35 years. :)
 
That helps guys! Thanks.

So here's how I do it:

It's the easiest way I've found so far and it really tastes great! You should try this so you can see what it's like. It's really fun to do! I'm planning on doing a batch today, hope the weather doesn't screw it up. There have been a few days that I just couldn't get it to work.

I use a glass blender. An electric beater won't be fast enough, nor can you whip it up by hand. So use an electric blender for this.

1 and 1/4 cup vegetable oil
1 tablespoon red wine vinegar
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 egg
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/8 teaspoon paprika
1/4 teaspoon dry mustard
A dash of ground white pepper

In this order: Pour 1/4 cup oil into the blender, add vinegar, lemon juice, egg, salt, paprika, mustard, and pepper. Cover the blender and blend for 5 seconds on low to medium speed. Remove the cover or cap while the blender is running, and add in the remaining oil (1 cup) in a thin steady steam, until the mixture turns white and thickens to the point that it will no longer circulate in the blender. Turn the blender off immediately when it reaches that point. There may be a tablespoon or two of the oil left over, but it's better to have a little extra on hand, than not enough.

Enjoy! :)
 
Tai, Thanks for the recipe, I'll have to try it!

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Let me know how it works for you. :)

Once you get it, you'll never go back to the store bought stuff,... unless it's one of the days when it won't work.
 
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