Michigan makers, let's talk!

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Attention: this is not just for MI makers but for any in the Great lakes area that are within driving distance.

At the last Scagel Hammer-in a good friend of mine that has been starting to make knives, pulled me aside and said that he thought we should start getting Michigan makers together more to share ideas, and not wait until a the ABS comes to put on a seminar. I told him that I had wanted to do just that for many years but had a rather lukewarm reception anytime I approached the established makers about it.

I am not sure what is up with MI makers, but we seem to be a feircely independant breed. I also think that some have a subconcious inferiority complex, since I have seen many MI smiths travel across the country to learn from those with their names in the magazines. On the other hand, there are a good number of Michigan guys who traveled to Arkansas to take a class from a guy named Cashen :confused: . But think about that, go all the way to Arkansas to get information that could be had for free just a short drive away. Not that you could get the same advantages from a short visit that you could get from a full, hands-on, 2 week course, I still recommend the class.

The great lakes area is the industrial center of the country, we have all the supplies we could need within a days drive. With Scagel, Marbles, and the other knifemakers, both custom and production, we have a richer knifemaking history than most, and yet we are not a "hotbed" of knifemaking. Take a look at any area of the country that is a "hot-bed" of knifemaking and you will quickly see what they have in common- the makers work with each other and learn.

After discussing this a bit with with my friend, I decided that the answer was to go for new blood. Folks starting out and wanting information, would be much more eager to get together than the guys that are set in their ways, hopefully we can get the seasoned guys also, I have a few interested now.

Perhaps this infusion of new enthusiasm can counteract the apathy that has resulted in the ABS having to drop the Scagel Hammer-in due to poor turnout. Yes, we are on our own again, so I think my friend had a bit of psychic intuition when he proposed this idea.

That idea is this- We need to start communicating and sharing ideas better, but it shouldn't be business. Business can burn one out and get tedious. It should be fun! It doesn't cost a thing to have a regular get together of friends who share a common interest. One location can get tedious and can exclude those who live far away. We can learn more and make it more interesting if we do shop visits; see how they next guy does things. If we can pick dates and times and communicate via E-mail, it could work. It does not have to be hands on,(my insurance guy would have a fit!) but it could be at some locations, but more importantly, there can be demonstrations and sharing of ideas, as well as seeing other shop setups.

I am willing to open my shop up to a visit first. I will need to get my hands on a new calendar and would be ready starting in January. I will start the mailing list off like this-

If you are interested send me an E-mail message with the words "MI Makers" in the subject line, I already have a filter and folders set up for it. I will make a list of addresses that will allow us to keep informed as to dates and places.

My e-mail:
kevin@cashenblades.com
Remember to put "MI Makers" in the subject line.
 
I'm in, email sent.

Thanks for getting this thing rolling. I can't wait to see what kind of turnout we get.
 
Just what I was looking for! I'm new to the art but I'm in! Anyone can get ahold of me to talk shop, always welcome.
Thanks, Shaun
 
Hi Kevin

I'm glad you brought this up. I know we've talked about this once or twice. I have talked to a few makers about this and they all think it's a good idea but it seems hard to get anybody to run with it. So, count me in! My e-mail is on the way. I also want to to throw out an invite to all the lurkers out there. If you ever thought about being part of a group such as this, now's the time to get in on the ground floor. There is a lot of info out there to be shared.

Now Kevin, I know we talked uniform. Where can I get one of those silk smoking jackets and a fez like yours?

YMHS-------------------Bob
 
Hey Bob,
How are you man? Is this what you were telling me about last year? I'm really psyched about this and glad it's becoming a reality.

Kevin,
Thank you for taking the reins on this one. Let me know if there is any way I can help get this started. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Tim
 
Hey Tim And everyone
Yes, this is what we talked about. It's a great chance to get in on the ground floor of a new knife making org. Who knows, it could become big. The ABS and the Guild both had to start somewhere, right.

YMHS---------------Bob
 
Hey Tim and everyone
If this shows up twice I appologize. I'm having trouble with my confuser.
Anyway, yes Tim, this is what we talked about. It is a great chance to get in on the ground floor of a new knife making org. It could be very big. The ABS and the Guild had to start somewhere, right.

YMHS--------------------Bob
 
Well I looked overy my calendar (and most importantly got permission from my wife) and deiced that I can open my shop up for our first meeting on Saturday February 5. I can be available all day if that will make things possible for those that have a drive. My shop is not set up very well for hands on, but I would be more thatn happy to talk or demonstrate any of my equipment or techniques. Is there anything in particular that folks would like to talk about?

I hope to also spend some time on where we will go from here with this, and plan where we can have other meetings in the future.

R.Rossdeutscher said:
Now Kevin, I know we talked uniform. Where can I get one of those silk smoking jackets and a fez like yours?

YMHS-------------------Bob

Don't sweat it Bob, this will not be the required dress:
wingback.jpg

because the meeting will NOT be in that room ;) .
 
But,

It's mad crazy, I do have that same smoking jacket, and a fez.

I got the smoking jacket in Hong Kong in 1989 when I was in the Navy, and we were in port. My mother in law gave me a fez last Christmas, she has a thing about giving useless hats as gifts.

Are you going to Ashokan this year? We met there at the last Sword one. Then, last year, I got that 3 bar composite bowie with Kingwood that you had made.

Good luck with your new idea sharing group. It could be a monster.

Best Regards,

Steven Garsson
 
R.Rossdeutscher said:
Hi Kevin

...... count me in! My e-mail is on the way...........

YMHS-------------------Bob


I was real interested until I found out BOB was gonna be there. Now im not so sure!! ;)

Im in. See you at the Badger knife Show, Bob.

Michael

Adam Michael Knives
www.AdaMichaelKnives.com
 
Kevin im glad to see you doing this in the great lakes area and i think you will have some great results from it ' I also think its great that you and others open there shops to bring this about it is fun and if its fun and a chance to get together and pass it on what could be better ,
we started the same thing here a few years back its working and the learning from each other ,is priceless.
The friends that you make and the ideas that are passed around are pushing thing fast but it feeds on itself .
we have been trying to preach this method of learning and its paying off
for each person that will open his or her shop in there area will spread it to the next 2 hour drive bunch and then the next its like a split cell it just keeps building new cells ,

this is what the Appalachian knifemakers is all about and i hope you have the same results as we have .i wish i could be there .
Bowie
 
Feb 5 works for me, any time will work, but in the afternoon would be better, so I have a chance to run my daughter home, unless you want a shop elf running around. :) She does alright in the shop, but has a short attention span. She must get that from her mom...hehehe.

I think it will be cool just to see your set up and lab. I have no particular things I want to see demonstrated, anything is good in my book. I think the best part is going to be seeing who shows up and talking about how/where this MI Makers thing is going to progress/go.

Keep us updated, but you can count me in for the 5th. The nice thing about having the first one at your place is that probably 2/3 of MI is with a few hours driving distance.
 
I have sent out a mailing to all on the list, but I am not sure whether I set up the list correctly. Anybody who does not get this e-mail within the next day or so should contact me to let me know I have screwed it up :(
 
Feb.5th sounds good. Count me in.
Shaun
 
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