Mick, what is the "New Band Cutter" Spine Grind?

[L.O. Little]

Check out:

http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/bn.htm

What is this "NEW "BAND CUTTER" SPINE GRIND" mentioned there? Is the spine sharpened like the spine on my BT-SS?

 

[Mick Strider]

TAD likes to name things.
It is just an obtuse grind on the top. It is exactly the same as the grind when it has serrations. But there are no serrations.
The reason they call it a band cutter is that it works well to slide under metal bands and pull-cut them.

We just call it a secondary bevel. We’re simpletons.

m

 

[L.O. Little]

I'm a simpleton, too. My math STINKS. Per:

http://www.mathsisfun.com/obtuse.html

An obtuse angle is more than 90° and less than 180°. With that in mind, I guess the spine is NOT sharpened...

 

[Crayola]

Um... er....

I think that mathematically speaking, Mick means the angle of that "band cutter" is obtuse. The angle of the tanto tip is obtuse, but the angle of the band cutter ebvels is acute (less than 90 degrees)!

But since english words can take on a bunch of meanings, by obtuse Mick means that the band cutter bevels aren't ground to be wicked sharp like normal edges, but they are thicker. So eh said obtuse to mean thicker than regular edge bevel grinds.

Sorry, I've been doing a lot of philosophy of language lately, and I just can't help myself :footinmou

 

[L.O. Little]

Mathisfun.com says an obtuse angle is more than 90° and less than 180°. You say, "The angle of the tanto tip is obtuse, but the angle of the band cutter ebvels is acute (less than 90 degrees)!"

I am thoroughly confused. Tell me this; could a knife with the "Band Cutter" spine grind be construed as being a double edged knife? The reason I ask is because the laws in my state frown on daggers. I may be wrong, but I think a double edged knife is a dagger.

An illegal knife in Texas is defined as:

(6) "Illegal knife" means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one-half inches;
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by
being thrown;
(C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto,
and poniard;
(D) sword; or
(E) spear.

The English language is a very strange thing. Legal language is even stranger. I am so confused, I'm starting to feel like my avatar looks...

 

[Zach Chalmers]

Lynn,
Even if it is construed as a double edged blade that statute is only for carry. That would make most large fixed blades illegal but only for carry. I keep a large strider in my truck.

Zach

 

[KnifeBomber]

LO Little,
Here is how you determine that your tanto is in fact obtuse in angle. Take the knife and hold it horizontally with the edge up. Run your other hand from the choil along the edge towards the tip. As you bleed profusely, notice how the edge then drops away from your hand right at the beginning of the tip. That angle of attack is INDEED obtuse, whether mathisfun.com says so or not. Then, repeat as neccesary until you believe me. Then, run you hand up the flat of the blade until you come to the band breaker area. That angle is acute. One hopefully will cut you, the other will not. Different angles entirely. /\ versus \_ .

 

[Mick Strider]

Obtuse also means;
Dull-witted
Simple minded
Imperceptive
Thick headed
Thick
Stupid
Slow…

There are quite a few.
My usage meant ‘thick’.

Thanks

m

 

[KnifeBomber]

LMFAO!! Nice explaination, Mick! I hadn't thought of it like that.

 

[Mick Strider]

I pulled all of those off of the ‘word’ thesaurus.
In that same order.
It was too funny not to share.

How are you pal?

m

 

[Crayola]

KnifeBomber's little drawings are awesome!

Mick, thanks for the lesson too!

I re-read my post and I made a mistake in it. I meant to say that Mathematically speaking, you (Mick) mean that the angle of the bandcutter is acute (I said obtuse), but you also mean it is thick, not like a normal edge grind.


Methinks it is time for a nap...

 

[KnifeBomber]

Mick,
Things are coming together as we speak. I hope to be out of country by December. Lucky me. Left you a message on the cell. Hopefully it will be understandable. Give me a call if you guys can't understand my drunkese!!
Ryan